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Old November 5th, 2012, 03:33 PM   #1181
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United Airlines landed its inaugural flight of the Boeing 787 Dreamliner at Chicago O'Hare International Airport Sunday morning, becoming the first U.S. carrier to fly the composite-plastic fuselage air craft.

The twin-aisle plane, delayed more than three years by production problems at Boeing, was designed to be about 20% more fuel efficient than similar size planes and less costly to maintain than other big jets. Half the plane is made of strong and lightweight composite materials, including the fuselage and wings, instead of metal.

Boeing said the plane also offers great comfort for passengers, including dimmable windows and LED lighting that changes in different phases of flight.

Flight 1116 from Houston to Chicago was the first flight of the Dreamliner by a U.S. airline. United is scheduled to bring the Dreamliner to Los Angeles for daily nonstop flights to Narita, Japan, beginning in January.

"If you want to be the world's leading airline, you need the world's leading airplane, and this is it," United Chief Executive Jeff Smisek told the Chicago Tribune.

One complaint on the flight was the lack of Wi-Fi on what Boeing called the most technologically advanced commercial jet in the world. Smisek told reporters that Boeing was working with federal aviation authorities to certify communications equipment to maintain broadband on a composite aircraft, a process that could take until 2014 to complete.
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Old November 5th, 2012, 03:40 PM   #1182
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United Begins First 787 Dreamliner Flight by U.S. Airline
By Julie Johnsson - Nov 4, 2012 11:32 AM CT

Source: http://www.bloomberg.com/news/2012-1...s-airline.html


United Continental Holdings Inc. (UAL) ushered in a new era for composite-plastic aircraft with its inaugural flight using Boeing Co. (BA)’s 787 Dreamliner jet.

Flight 1116 to Chicago from Houston was the first by a U.S. airline with the plane whose fuselage is made chiefly from composite materials instead of the traditional aluminum, and Chief Executive Officer Jeff Smisek hailed it as “the best airplane in the world.”

“It doesn’t get any cooler than this,” Smisek said today as he posed for photos and signed autographs at Houston’s George Bush Intercontinental Airport before a takeoff that industry data tracker FlightAware reported at 8:29 a.m. New York time. “We’ve been waiting a long time for this.”

The Dreamliner symbolically punctuates the 2010 merger creating the world’s largest carrier from former United parent UAL Corp. and Continental Airlines Inc. Continental committed in 2004 to buy the first U.S. 787s, and the new United is due to get 48 more of the jets under purchases by its predecessors, following the delivery of the second plane on Oct. 31. Smisek said he expects two more jets this month.

United will benefit from the plane’s 20 percent fuel savings compared with wide-body models of similar size. It also can promote the passenger comforts that Boeing says set the jet apart from other aircraft, such as dimmable windows and LED lighting that changes in different phases of flight.
Champagne Toast

The features were much in display as the Dreamliner cruised north to Chicago. Windows were dimmed to a hazy blue to block bright sunlight, the bird-like wings flexed as the 787 climbed and encountered brief turbulence.

Smisek kicked off the on-board party with a toast and passengers thronged galleys and aisles, praising the aircraft’s quiet engines and lavatories, which feature toilets that flush automatically.

“I like the aircraft a lot,” said Mark Schiff, a Chicago lawyer who shifted plans to catch the early morning flight when he discovered it would be on the Dreamliner. “It’s a much nicer atmosphere.”

With the composite construction, the 787’s interior can withstand higher humidity, allowing cabin pressurization that puts more oxygen in the air to minimize traveler fatigue and headache. As configured for United, the twin-engine jet seats 219 people.

The one complaint on the flight was the lack of Wi-Fi on the most technologically advanced commercial jet in the world. Smisek said in an interview that Boeing was working with federal aviation authorities to certify communications equipment to maintain broadband on a composite aircraft, a process that could take until 2014 to complete.
‘Amazing Airplane’

Smisek said the Dreamliner is crucial to his effort to make United into a standard-bearer for the industry. Flight 1116 arrived at Chicago O’Hare International Airport at 10:35 a.m. New York time, and was saluted with water cannons as it taxied to gate C-20.

“We are the world’s largest airline, but we don’t care about that,” he said. “We want to become the world’s leading airline.”

Boeing’s struggles with the new materials and production techniques contributed to delays of more than 3 1/2 years in the Dreamliner’s commercial debut, which came in 2011 for All Nippon Airways Co. (9202) United received its initial plane in September, and the second one was several days late.

The 787’s sleek design and amenities drew aviation buffs from around the world to Houston for Flight 1116. Among those on hand was Thomas Lee, 60, who said he was on the first flights of Boeing’s 747 jumbo jet, the Airbus SAS A380 superjumbo and All Nippon’s Dreamliner.

“It’s an amazing airplane,” he said. “I simply had to be here.”
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Old November 5th, 2012, 03:42 PM   #1183
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Old November 5th, 2012, 05:28 PM   #1184
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can't wait to see it in SFO at daytime since it will initially be operated at night... with the final flight from SFO to IAH leaving past midnight.
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Old November 5th, 2012, 06:22 PM   #1185
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can't wait to see it in SFO at daytime since it will initially be operated at night... with the final flight from SFO to IAH leaving past midnight.
Still you should notice the flashing beacon light.
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Old November 5th, 2012, 08:12 PM   #1186
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Yeah. My biggest guess though is that it will fly out of Terminal 3, not International Terminal G because it will operate as a domestic flight, and it will be too late for me to take such pictures.
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Old November 6th, 2012, 02:42 PM   #1187
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Momo1435.great vid.
Hopefully we will see these @ bhx in the near future if rumours are true.Am i correct in believing that the 787 doesn't need a long runway for a long haul flight.if so how much runway does it need compared to a similarly loaded 330/777?
I ask as I find it ironic as bhx is finally getting a longer runway that we have been crying out
For,for a good 20 years.such is life!
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Old November 6th, 2012, 07:21 PM   #1188
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Old November 6th, 2012, 07:43 PM   #1189
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Momo1435.great vid.
Hopefully we will see these @ bhx in the near future if rumours are true.Am i correct in believing that the 787 doesn't need a long runway for a long haul flight.if so how much runway does it need compared to a similarly loaded 330/777?
I ask as I find it ironic as bhx is finally getting a longer runway that we have been crying out
For,for a good 20 years.such is life!
The 787 does not have a shorter minimum take-off distance then a 777, it's even longer then a A330. It's around 3,100m / 10,300ft, the runway extension in Birmingham will be needed for the 787 to take-off there.
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Old November 6th, 2012, 09:39 PM   #1190
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That's an interesting paradox. I thought that the lighter, more composite materials made for the 787 allows it to take off in much shorter runway lengths. But what makes the take-off requirement for the 787 much longer than comparable aircraft?
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Old November 6th, 2012, 10:50 PM   #1191
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Even with the composites the empty weight of a 787 is not that much less then the weight of a A330. For the 787-8 the main difference is the engine trust that significantly lower then the 2 A330 variants while it still has a similar maximum take-off weight. The 787-9 will have a similar engine trust as the A330s, but with a significantly larger take-off weight. This gives the 787 much better fuel efficiency in flight then the A330, but it doesn't perform better on the take-off.

Boeing could have made the 787 much lighter if they would have given it a similar range and max take-off weight as the A330. But they have chosen to design a plane that can do more with the same size and weight specifications.

Compared to the 777 it's mostly a story of engine trust that is significantly lower on the 787. The lower weight is compensated with less trust on take-off.
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Very interesting paradox indeed. I think that the 787 would be a great plane to operate from larger airports, not the smaller ones.
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Is dreamliner going to fly to New York City?
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Yes. LOT Polish Airlines will operate its 787 from Warsaw to New York-JFK from next year.
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And what's about other destinations? London, Paris, Moscow?
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LOT Polish Airlines will initially serve WAW to JFK, YYZ, and PEK with the 787.
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And what's about other destinations? London, Paris, Moscow?
JAL already flies to Moscow. No other airline currently plans for 787 routes to Moscow. Both Aeroflot and Transaero have ordered the plane, there will be enough routes from Moscow when the

Qatar Airways from Doha and United from Houston will be flying to London, although these routes are temporary. But since both BA and Thomson Airways will be getting the 787 next year we will see enough routes from London.

Paris has only been mentioned by Qatar as one of the early routes, Air France will also get the 787 but only later in the decade.
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The Ethiopian's Dreamliner made its 2nd visit at Paris, yesterday :

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Build begins on British Airways’ first Boeing 787:

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Work on BA's 1st 787 has started, it will go into final assembly in several months and will be delivered in May.
http://www.breakingtravelnews.com/ne...ys-dreamliner/
It's always a problem with these part news, part background stories, it's not always up to date.
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