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Old May 4th, 2013, 05:12 AM   #1941
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And this is official. ANA won't take up horrible teens.
LN11 ZA500 now is ZA800 for Transaero Airlines
LN12 ZA501 now is ZA801 for Transaero Airlines
LN14 ZA503 now is ZA803 for Transaero Airlines
http://nyc787.blogspot.com/
Interesting name for a trio of teen-numbered aircraft. But, it's interesting that Transaero will be the first Russian carrier to operate the Dreamliner. I recall that it is also the first Russian airline to operate the 744 and 777... Correct me if I'm wrong. I then wonder where it will send the 787s from Moscow.
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Old May 4th, 2013, 05:54 AM   #1942
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I'm rather interested which one will be their 4th B788.
From other news. LN26 ZA231 VT-ANB is now inside EMC, Bay A. Only the first Air India's Dreamliner is outside, and probably will disappear inside EMC for 6-8 months after completion and roll out of LN20 JA821J.

@fieldsofdreams, it's not my idea to call that these planes. And there is 2nd version of this nickname - "terrible teens" Each one has to spend in EMC about 12 months to be completed, and Boeing lost and is still losing a lot of money 'cause of these frames. The name is rather accurate.

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Old May 4th, 2013, 07:15 AM   #1943
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This leaves 6 early build 787s up for grabs, 8 if you include the RAM frames.

I wonder when their new owners will be announced. It's only logical that the 2 frames that are destined for RwandAir are not allocated yet, since they have yet to firm up the order. Lion Air is also an airline that should take up some of the rejected early frames. We will see what happens in the next couple of years. Since these frames need more then 6 months rework and that Boeing won't increase the work in the EMC it will still take enough time to get them all delivered.

I also expect that the battery modifications will slow down the work in the EMC for as long as they will take place.



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Interesting name for a trio of teen-numbered aircraft. But, it's interesting that Transaero will be the first Russian carrier to operate the Dreamliner. I recall that it is also the first Russian airline to operate the 744 and 777... Correct me if I'm wrong. I then wonder where it will send the 787s from Moscow.
Aeroflot operated 2 777s between 1998 and 2005, and technically AirBridge Carge was the 1st to operate the 747 although Transaero appears to be the 1st to have operated passenger 747s. But it's always possible that there might have been some small start-up airlines that have operated the 747 during the Russian aviation chaos years in the early 1990s.
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Old May 4th, 2013, 08:03 AM   #1944
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Aeroflot operated 2 777s between 1998 and 2005, and technically AirBridge Carge was the 1st to operate the 747 although Transaero appears to be the 1st to have operated passenger 747s. But it's always possible that there might have been some small start-up airlines that have operated the 747 during the Russian aviation chaos years in the early 1990s.
I recall SU operating B777-200s during that period as well, in which those were removed from the fleet and relied on their B767-300ERs, which evolved into the A330s and, now, the B77W. But I think I'm correct that Transaero (UN) will be the first Russian carrier to operate the 787.
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Interesting name for a trio of teen-numbered aircraft. But, it's interesting that Transaero will be the first Russian carrier to operate the Dreamliner. I recall that it is also the first Russian airline to operate the 744 and 777... Correct me if I'm wrong. I then wonder where it will send the 787s from Moscow.
Aeroflot had some 777's a while back.

EDIT: Just saw Momo has already answered it. Carry on.
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Old May 4th, 2013, 12:03 PM   #1946
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This leaves 6 early build 787s up for grabs, 8 if you include the RAM frames.
RAM rejected those 2 frames too, they will get better builds instead.

So we have 11 rejected frames and I believe 3 customers will take them: Batik Air (5), RwandAir (2) and Transaero (4).
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Old May 4th, 2013, 05:41 PM   #1947
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Old May 4th, 2013, 06:35 PM   #1948
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LN34 ZA380 B-2725 China Southern Airlines made a night test flight with 2 stops on the way.

http://flightaware.com/live/flight/B...112Z/KGEG/KPAE


Night flights are not standard for normal production flights, so Boeing probably did it for the Chinese certification process. It also means that it's not there yet, but seeing these kind of flights is much better then seeing the Chinese frames long term stored like Boeing did before the grounding.



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@ureshs @BoeingAirplanes We have a deep expertise in handling "terrible teens" so we're not afraid &we look fwd 2 operating the Dreamliners.
https://twitter.com/TRANSAERO/status/330592653483855872
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Old May 4th, 2013, 10:41 PM   #1949
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Well this shows things are moving.
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Old May 4th, 2013, 10:58 PM   #1950
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More good news:

United to Move Forward 787 Service Resumption to 20 May 2013

That will mean United will resume domestic and international services on the 787, as well as finally launch the highly-anticipated DEN-NRT flight. It will operate on the following routes:

Domestic:
• Houston — Chicago/O'Hare: from 20 May 2013
• Houston — Denver: from 21 May 2013
• Houston — Los Angeles: from 24 May 2013

International:
• Houston — London/Heathrow: 10 June to 31 July 2013
• Denver — Tokyo/Narita: from 10 June 2013 (NRT from 11 June 2013)
• Houston — Lagos: from 1 August 2013 (LOS from 2 August 2013)
• Los Angeles — Tokyo/Narita: from 1 August 2013 (NRT from 2 August 2013)
• Los Angeles — Shanghai/Pu Dong: from 2 August 2013 (PVG from 3 August 2013)
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Old May 5th, 2013, 04:00 PM   #1951
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ANA Boeing 787 (JA 818 A)

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source:http://787updates.newairplane.com/FA...-Plan/Solution
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Old May 6th, 2013, 08:06 PM   #1953
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Old May 6th, 2013, 10:20 PM   #1954
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Thomson Airways to launch Boeing 787 operations July 8

Thomson Airways has confirmed it will soon take delivery of its first Boeing 787, which will enter commercial service July 8.

The UK holiday operator, which is due to receive eight of the 13 787s that parent TUI Travel Group has on order, was originally slated to receive its first 787 at the end of February for entry into service May 1. However this schedule was delayed by the global 787 grounding and Thomson Airways is remaining tight-lipped on the new delivery schedule.

“At this time we are not confirming the delivery dates. We will receive the first two to operate our long-haul flying program on July 8 and expect to receive our first aircraft by the end of May. Another two will be also be delivered this summer,” a Thomson Airways spokeswoman told ATW.

She confirmed the first 787 will be deployed on the carrier’s Manchester-Florida and Glasgow-Cancun routes from July 8.

Thomson Airways has been charging passengers a supplement to fly on its 787s, which it will refund to passengers not able to travel on the type.

The spokeswoman declined to comment on the cost of the 787 delay, but she added: “What I can say is that in terms of our business we will ensure that we are adequately compensated for the situation we and our customers are facing.”



So delievery is coming soon.
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CNN has a inside article on the battery fix on it's website:
http://edition.cnn.com/2013/05/07/tr...nes/index.html



ZA512 JA818A ANA on another flight, this time it might actually be the C-1 flight for a delivery later this week, we'll know for sure when we see it actually on route to Tokyo.
http://flightaware.com/live/flight/BOE512



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Operation updates:

Air India has moved forward the 1st operation from 23 May to 15 May.
http://airlineroute.net/2013/05/07/ai-787-may13update2/


Ethiopian Airlines has started to use the 787 on the Addis Ababa – Washington Dulles today (7 May), and will start the Addis Ababa – Toronto 787 service on 10 May.
http://airlineroute.net/2013/05/07/et-787-may13update2/
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I am guessing the ADD-IAD flight has the new batteries? Only eight more days for Air India to resume 787 flights.
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The 3rd 787 for BA has come out of production.

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Ethiopian is back in the USA with the 787, the ET-AOP landed safely in Washington Dulles.

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The VT-ANN made a short hop from Everett to Boeing Field on Monday. Is this to make space at Everett or is this because of an imminent delivery?

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Routes update:

Aeromexico will start using the 787 on 1 October.
http://airlineroute.net/2013/05/08/am-787-update1/

The 1st day it will fly on domestic routes:
Mexico City – Monterrey
Mexico City – Tijuana

And then later in October
Mexico City – New York JFK
Mexico City – Tijuana – Tokyo Narita – Mexico City
Mexico City – Paris CDG

And from March 2014:
Mexico City – Buenos Aires

Their 1st 787 will the next one that will roll out of the factory in Everett, if it's delivered in September then it will take about 3,5~4 months between roll out and delivery.
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I am guessing the ADD-IAD flight has the new batteries? Only eight more days for Air India to resume 787 flights.
Yes you are guessing right ,so far out of Ethiopian Airlines operated 4 Dreamliners ET-AOP and ET-AOS got their batteries changed and has been flying to Frankfurt and Dubai.

http://www.airliners.net/aviation-fo....main/5750564/
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That is great news to hear Ethiopian landed safely in the USA. Congrats to them for getting the 787 back in business.

Kinda was hoping that Aero Mexico was going to open some new routes from MEX with their 787s. You can fly to JFK on a 737. but who knows time will only tell.
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Thomson Airways Outlines Planned Boeing 787 Operation from July 2013


UK’s Thomson Airways has updated schedule listing on its website, which now reflects planned Boeing 787 operational schedule. The airline intends to launch Boeing 787 operation on 08JUL13. Below are planned Boeing 787 operations and approximate effective date.

East Midlands – Cancun eff 07AUG13 1 weekly
East Midlands – Orlando Sanford eff 06AUG13 1 weekly
Glasgow – Cancun eff 15JUL13 1 weekly
Glasgow – Orlando Sanford eff 09JUL13 1 weekly
London Gatwick – Cancun eff 09JUL13 2 – 3 weekly
London Gatwick – Orlando Sanford eff 10JUL13 1 weekly
Manchester – Cancun eff 13JUL13 2 weekly
Manchester – Orlando Sanford eff 11JUL13 1 – 2 weekly

Actual inauguration date for Boeing 787 aircraft on routes listed above may vary by 1-2 days, due to its web booking’s schedule listing format. Planned Boeing 787 operational routes and frequencies remain subject to change.
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