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Old August 23rd, 2014, 11:31 PM   #41
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This thread is about public transport in Ottawa, map from urbanrail.net:

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Old August 23rd, 2014, 11:48 PM   #42
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In Ottawa at the moment has one light rail line called O-Train. O-Train is an 8 km light rail line operated with Bombardier Talent diesel units (DMUs) on an old railway line between Bayview and Greenboro, with a train every 15 minutes.

At the same time new LRT, The Confederation Line is now U/C. The Line is a 12.5 km modern light rail line including a 2.5 km downtown tunnel, while the rest of the line is on the surface and is being rebuilt from an existing busway (transitway). Here are some photos, taken from official webiste. West portal:







East portal:



This picture shows progress on widening for LRT and structure rehabilitation of Highway 417:



A video about project:



Vision of city transport's future, the transport plan that was announced last year:

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Old August 24th, 2014, 09:35 PM   #43
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How will conversion to rail impact operation of the (bus) transitway?
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Old August 25th, 2014, 05:36 AM   #44
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Bus service will be discontinued when it opens in late 2017, but in the mean time they will detour through regular city streets. It will essentially be a year or so of commuting hell.

The O-Train is also getting new trains soon and will be upgraded to 8.5 minute frequencies in a few months, from my understanding.

That map given is of the unfunded "phase 2", which the provincial government has recently vowed to fund but has not yet put forth the money formally. The currently under construction line is the one that runs left-right on the image and is tealish coloured.

A couple of Confederation Line (the new LRT) renders:



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Old August 25th, 2014, 05:58 AM   #45
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Wow a lot changes from when I was last time in Ottawa, April 2013 Nice to see that!
The last picture presents the actual "train" type that will be used on the LRT line? Looks more like a fast-tram.
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Yes, that's the train.

In reality it is closer to a metro line, its completely grade separated.
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Old August 26th, 2014, 02:17 AM   #47
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Looks more like a fast-tram.
That's because it is. It's an (extra wide) Alstom Citadis. You'll find them running on street level in Europe. Basically an extra long and wide new Toronto streetcar in a tunnel.

The front-end hasn't been chosen yet I believe. There's 3 options to choose from, but this isn't one of them. Here's a vid.
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Old August 26th, 2014, 06:08 AM   #48
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Why they didn't decided for something more like a Calgary / Edmonton LRT? Money?
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what do you mean? they used skinny trains but the platforms will be 150m long, considerably longer than Edmonton / Calgary. The Ottawa LRT is almost every way is built to considerably better standards than Calgary and Edmonton.
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About the existing O-Train line: The service frequency of a train is every 15 minutes, based on a fleet of only three trains and a single track. If service on the O-Train is to be significantly increased in the future, double-tracks and more trains will be needed.
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I'm saying that this looks more like a fast-tram on a separate tracks, than a light rail or subway obviously. Yes it's long, but the same way they build fast-trams in Poland for example. They don't call it LRT's.
The Calgary or Edmonton LRT's use heavier trains (which also can be connected differently, depends on ridership, etc).

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About the existing O-Train line: The service frequency of a train is every 15 minutes, based on a fleet of only three trains and a single track. If service on the O-Train is to be significantly increased in the future, double-tracks and more trains will be needed.
Didn't they just purchased six new Alstom DMU's to add to their already 3 Bombardier DMU's fleet?
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Ottawa should look into converting the O-Train into a light rail line (ie double tracking the line and adding electric catenary to increase service) and extending it to the airport whenever they get a chance. That way there will be a one seat train connection from Downtown to the Airport.
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I found in the web this plan for Ottawa's commuter rail - the plan is sponsored by independent company, not by official government. Taken from here:

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This are, I think, a prayerful wishes. At least for the next 10-15 yrs.
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It has been proposed that the entire LRT system will be called O-Train with the existing line called Trillium Line (Ontario provincial flower is trillium) and the new line called Confederation Line. The names are consistent across the two tongues spoken in the bilingual metropolis.


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Trillium Line?..........I like good old fashioned O-Train.
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O-Train is the whole system-name (like New York Subway), Trillium and Confederation will be (?) the line-names, which is nice.
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What's wrong with having either a Line 1/Line 2 or a Red Line/Green Line name?

That way it would be more user friendly especially to people from out of town.
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I also prefer simple names. They should give the numbers to each line and then their names in quotes.
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