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Old February 16th, 2008, 07:56 PM   #101
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Here's another nice looking development. This is a 6 fl seniors complex just east of the Holiday Inn. Construction started last summer.



http://www.kennyspondresidence.com/

I should add that this is the height limit for most of the new parts of the city.
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Old May 4th, 2008, 11:25 PM   #102
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50 Tiffany Court

Tiffany Village Inc. - 50 Tiffany Court
Seniors residential & assisted living condominium units, 168 units, 8 storeys, 29 m
The building footprint is L shaped, and will include 2 levels below, containing parking and services.
It is part of a phased development which will contain around 500 units total.



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The building is located on property next to the former Salvation Army Training Facility off Tiffany Lane. The Site Context Plan prepared by Tract Consulting Inc. shows the general location of the site and surrounding uses. The Site Plan prepared by Kavanagh & Associates Ltd. shows the exact location. The height of the building is eight storeys with two basement/parking levels. Height above grade will vary because of the sloping ground. At the building main entrance, the height will be 26.6m, including the parapet. A mechanical penthouse in the middle of the building will be 2.4m in height. The Building Elevations prepared by PHB Group Inc. show the height of the building in more detail.

"The final design of the building is in progress. While the exact configuration is still to be
determined, exterior materials will include the following:
• Stone Masonry Veneer - Natural Colours
• Brick Veneer - Colours, Red Range
• Acrylic Plaster - Colours, Earth Tones, complimentary with the brick
• Metal Railings Factory Painted Aluminium
• Windows Factory Painted Aluminium"
http://www.stjohns.ca/csj/Tiffany_Vi...ort15Feb07.pdf

The site is located in the East end older suburbs, north of Elizabeth Avenue.
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Old May 15th, 2008, 10:15 PM   #103
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Harbourfront Condos

A new condo development will be built in close proximity to the harbourfront on Water Street East. Being certain to not block any views, the development will be a series of six buildings that are five stories each, including 1st level parking. It is within the heritage area so the design is certain to be of a historic style.

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City Gives Green Light To East End Condos
May 13, 2008

A major residential development for downtown St.John's has been given the green light. Council has given the okay to six residential condominium buildings to be located on the former Standard Manufacturing site on Water Street East. Each building will have eight units for the total of 48 and there will be one level of indoor parking. Councilor Frank Galgay says the proposed development is a good one for the city. Galgay says other people's views will not be impacted and both parking and traffic do not seem to be an issue. Councilor Art Puddister suggested that any buyers of the new condominiums be informed of the noise levels from the harbour. Puddister says no by-laws will be changed to reduce the noise.

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Noise cited as harbourside condo gets another OK
Last Updated: Tuesday, May 13, 2008 | 9:30 AM NT
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A controversial condominium development moved one step closer to reality during a St. John's city council meeting Monday night, although councillors expressed concern about whether buyers will like the noise from the harbour.

A developer wants to erect a 48-unit complex on the old Standard Manufacturing site, on the east end of Water Street and near the harbourfront.

Residents of the area, including some in the nearby Battery neighbourhood, have organized a petition against the plan, which they say will bring too much traffic to the narrow streets in the area and could spoil harbour views.

However, there seems to be little support for the petition on council. At Monday evening's meeting, councillors voted to permit extra residential units on the first floor of the buildings, which have already been approved.
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Old May 19th, 2008, 06:24 AM   #104
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Joey, thanks for keeping us abreast of what is going up in your neck of the woods!!
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Old June 25th, 2008, 08:20 PM   #105
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A report on Business article notes that the St. John's office vacancy rate is very tight, and is the lowest of cities surveyed in the country:

"Energized ... maybe too energized
As Newfoundland rides resources wave, St. John's grapples with one of the tightest office markets in country"


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LORI MAYNE

Special to The Globe and Mail

June 24, 2008

At national real estate conferences, Bill Balsom would smile when he saw the view of Canada on an overhead screen: Newfoundland and Labrador often wasn't even on the map.

"They'd put up this beautiful colour PowerPoint presentation and the country would stop at Halifax," he says.

That view is changing. "Finally, we are now on the radar," says Mr. Balsom, a partner in St. John's real estate consulting and appraisal firm ARA Kirkland Balsom and Associates.

A resurgent provincial economy, fuelled largely by the strong resources sector, is giving the province a shot in the arm. But it's perhaps one that the provincial capital wasn't quite prepared for - rising demand for office space and a scarcity of new buildings have left the downtown St. John's office market the tightest that some have seen in decades


However, new buildings haven't been coming on stream because rents haven't increased enough to justify costs, observers say. Neil Hardy, executive vice-president for the Atlantic region of real estate consulting company Altus Group Ltd., says rents at the seven main multioccupancy towers downtown now range from $14 to $16.50 a square foot - about 10 per cent higher than two years ago.

Downtown rents would have to reach about $25 to justify new construction, Mr. Hardy says. "I don't know if we are at that stage where a tenant would pay that money."

He believes more new space will go to St. John's suburbs where development costs would be cheaper. But he agrees some new construction will likely happen in the city itself within a year.

Office market snapshot

Vacancy rates in Class A buildings in central markets.


2nd quarter 2nd quarter
2008 2007
Vancouver 2.3% 2.1%
Edmonton 2.1% n/a
Calgary 2.3% 0.6%
Winnipeg 6.3% 6.3%
Toronto 3.9% 5.2%
Ottawa 2.9% 3.8%
Montreal 4.7% 7.0%
Fredericton 0.4% 3.0%
Saint John 5.4% 12.7%
Moncton 9.0% 10.6%
Halifax 2.2% 5.7%
St. John's 0.1% 1.1%
National 3.4% 4.3%

SOURCE: CUSHMAN & WAKEFIELD LePAGE

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Old June 26th, 2008, 08:27 AM   #106
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Sounds like SJ is a healthy market at the moment! Maybe we'll see some construction activity...
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The most recent multi-occupancy office buildings (downtown) were built around 1987. There is mention in the article that a new ~80,000 sq ft building is planned, but the location was not specified as downtown or suburban.
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then they are due for more!!!
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11 storey Hotel proposal downtown

There is a proposal for a new 11 storey hotel at a prominent downtown intersection on the waterfront. The Fortis and TD buildings (12 & 11 stories) are located on the same corner. This is within the heritage area (15M), so it will be a controversial proposal for that location.

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Coun. Shannie Duff says hotel proposal needs serious consideration

The city has received an application from Southwest Properties - which recently finished the redevelopment of Atlantic Place - to construct an 11-storey, four-star hotel at the corner of Water and Prescott streets, featuring 150 suites, a restaurant, meeting rooms, health centre with a swimming pool and underground parking for 100 vehicles.

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wonder what it will look like?
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Old July 20th, 2008, 09:30 AM   #111
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wonder what it will look like?
No idea, there haven't been any plans released publicly. It will probably be a compromise in height considering the heritage limitations. Whatever it is I hope it looks good because of the location.
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Old July 20th, 2008, 05:16 PM   #112
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There was a render in the Telegram the other day.

Here's the scan:

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Thanks Nuks for the render. It looks like it is designed to fit in as "quietly" as possible. I don't think it is too tall for the site, and looks to be around 38 m or so. If they stick to that colour scheme (brick?) and have a consistant design it should look good. Was there any other info in the paper about it?
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Hotel proposal may be scaled down

Some new light has been shed on the eleven storey hotel proposal at Water and Prescott. According to the following article no one on council wants it built in the proposed form, and will require that it be scaled down to six stories.


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So far, none of the councilors are very keen on the 11 storey proposal.

"It's not acceptable at all," said Galgay.

They've asked Southwest Properties to scale things down a bit. Ken O'Brien says Southwest has submitted a tamer proposal for a hotel which would be six storeys high-and it will emphasize, financially, they think this is the smallest they can go. Both proposals are being assessed for bonus area suitability.

Contrasted with an eleven storey building, that six storey building will no doubt be far more appealing to some.

After all, as Galgay points out, "something has got to go there."

But does it have to be a hotel?

Ward Councilor Debbie Hanlon doesn't think so.
From an article in the Scope (Aug 14) by Sarah Smellie -
http://thescope.ca/2008/08/look-up-way-up/#more-3182

"Does it have to be a hotel?" - No, that is a prime site for an office building, but market forces are making office buildings less attractive to developers, and often the largest buildings today in Canada are in fact hotels and condos.

"something has got to go there." - Not really, often developers will let sites remain empty or use them as parking lots.

Likely, a six storey building would have a larger footprint and unattractive massing (shape); or it might require a downsizing of rooms. It likely won't fit in any better with the heritage theme than 11 storeys. Way to go to discourage any sensible development in the city. Who wants to build or stay in a hotel on the ugly mess of Kenmount Road or beside the airport, far away from the city center? However, there may be sites available in the West end of downtown. As much as it seems fair to limit development in the heritage area, it is the entire downtown, and there simply won't be enough capacity available in the existing building inventory for hotels and offices, etc.
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"The empty lot at the corner of Water and Prescott street may soon be home to a new hotel. Should it be 11 storeys? 6 storeys? Does it really have to be a hotel? Can we be Europe and Toronto at the same time?"


lol, they compare that to Toronto?? I almost spit out my drink with laughter

maybe if it were 40 or 50 stories the comment would make sense, but I mean, it's only 11 stories. It just not a big building by any stretch of the imagination. Asking them to down it to 6 kills alot of the economic benefits for them.
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"The empty lot at the corner of Water and Prescott street may soon be home to a new hotel. Should it be 11 storeys? 6 storeys? Does it really have to be a hotel? Can we be Europe and Toronto at the same time?"


lol, they compare that to Toronto?? I almost spit out my drink with laughter

maybe if it were 40 or 50 stories the comment would make sense, but I mean, it's only 11 stories. It just not a big building by any stretch of the imagination. Asking them to down it to 6 kills alot of the economic benefits for them.
Yes, although they are looking at both proposals I would be really suprised if they would approve 11 stories, even though it would have little real impact being next to two taller buildings.. It looks like it will be 6, actually that will be 8 stories facing the harbour, about the right height for that kind of downtown area fabric. There are only two large hotels downtown at present and three medium size ones. There is a shortage, and the city's idea is that existing buildings can meet future needs, but of course that is wishful thinking. The hotel will be 140 rooms btw.
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at around 2 % vacancy, Vancouver and Calgary are freaking out about an office space shortage possibly impacting the economy. St. John's will have cranes abound soon for sure.
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at around 2 % vacancy, Vancouver and Calgary are freaking out about an office space shortage possibly impacting the economy. St. John's will have cranes abound soon for sure.
Something will get built sooner or later. St. John's has to compete with Halifax, at least a little bit.



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Last Updated: Wednesday, September 10, 2008 | 5:03 PM NT
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Office vacancies in St. John's at lowest level ever

The amount of available office space in St. John's fell to less than three per cent at the end of June — the lowest rate the city has ever seen.

The latest report from real estate company Cushman & Wakefield LePage, which includes a monthly economic update for the city of St. John's, said the overall office market vacancy rate decreased from 5.9 per cent in the second quarter of 2007 to 2.68 per cent for the second quarter of 2008.

Office space in the downtown area is even harder to find, and the situation is expected to worsen as projects like the Hebron oil development gear up.

The lack of available space downtown prompted Emad Rizkalla, the president of high tech company Bluedrop Performance Learning, to renovate an old meatpacking plant on Prescott Street.

"There is space obviously in various parts outside the city. But in terms of downtown and having very high-end professional space, it's an extremely tight market now," he said.

There hasn't been an office tower built in St. John's in 20 years, but with the local economy booming and lease rates creeping up, city councillor and realtor Debbie Hanlon said she expects that will change.

"It just makes economic sense that you are going to build more or renovate the existing ones. There are still some ones down there that can be done. There's still space down there, and maybe council will start rezoning some residential to commercial areas," she said.
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Here's some more news on the newest proposed office tower, which will be in the West end of downtown near the entrance to the downtown arterial highway:

New office tower in works for downtown St. John's: sources

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Last Updated: Thursday, September 11, 2008 | 2:08 PM NT
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Plans are coming together for the first office tower development in St. John's in almost two decades, CBC News has learned.

A large vacant lot on New Gower Street is where commercial real estate broker Martek Morgan Finch has been assembling land for the project for more than a year.

Sources tell CBC News that the lot, on the corner of New Gower and Hamilton Avenue, is pegged for a tower for Johnson Insurance, one of the province's oldest insurance companies, which has long been headquartered at Elizabeth Avenue.

Johnson Insurance is believed to be wanting to relocate its headquarters to a new building, and possibly rent out excess space.

As St. John's city hall has not yet been presented with a design, it's not clear how big the building will be, but real estate brokers in the city believe the building will be between 70,000 and 120,000 square feet.

An office tower has not been built in the city since the John Cabot Building opened near Cabot Place and the Delta Hotel in 1991.

The city's heritage bylaws put restrictions on the height of construction in much of the downtown, but the lot in question is outside that zone, which means a developer could build a highrise without breaking height restriction rules.


A new tower, though, would be within walking distance of many downtown amenities, including restaurants and shops.

The project is coming together as commercial real estate vacancy rates in St. John's have reached record lows. A survey in June found that only three per cent of office space in St. John's was available to lease.
http://www.cbc.ca/canada/newfoundlan...ice-tower.html
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Johnson Insurance Headquarters Building

Here is a new update about the Johnson Insurance Building:

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Johnson's hoping to set up shop at new downtown location
The Telegram

Johnson insurance company is hoping to move, but not out of the capital city.
The company is entering an application with the City of St. John’s today (FRIDAY) to build a new head office in downtown St. John’s. . . .

The company is working with real estate consulting firm Martek Morgan Finch on the new head office project, which they have proposed to be an eight story building comprising of 140,000 square feet, with nearly 600 parking spaces, most of which will be indoor.

The proposal also includes green space and will be designed so as not to interrupt sight lines of neighbours.
Complete article here:
http://www.thetelegram.com/index.cfm?sid=179370&sc=79

That's an average of 17,500 sq ft per floor, which is a large footprint (about three times the Fortis building) for this area. The height of an 8 storey office building would normally be around 30 to 35 meters, although in other articles it is described as 22 meters and 8 storeys.

http://www.newswire.ca/en/releases/a.../09/c5019.html

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