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Old November 5th, 2015, 03:16 AM   #101
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My beef with this building has less to do with it obstructing the views of the ESB than how the building itself looks like.
It is indeed inevitable that the ESB will be surrounded by other skyscrapers, some of them even taller at some point, and that's fine with me, in fact I welcome it in the neighborhood right below 34th. But to have it obstructed by turds like this, I'm sorry but I don't think it's worth obstructing one of the most iconic views in the city.
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Old November 5th, 2015, 05:47 PM   #102
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I just don't know with this tower, though I'm leaning that it's a disappointment. I'm sure it will play better in reality than the designs we see here but it's still off.. just not right for where it is in proximity to the ESB, and the views that it will block. I'm another of those people who are fine with the ESB not being the center of the universe in that part of Manhattan but I'd agree stylistically at least located here it's not right. Maybe more on the burgeoning West Side, but it's a fail for this area.
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Old November 5th, 2015, 06:13 PM   #103
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Am I the only one who thinks they didn't have to demolish the Bancroft Building for the tower. Looks like the tower is gonna be on 30th and the 29th part of the plot will be that lousy courtyard.
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Old November 9th, 2015, 12:28 PM   #104
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very good,exccelent
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Old November 11th, 2015, 04:12 AM   #105
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Old November 14th, 2015, 03:08 AM   #106
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Yep. don't think the courtyard is really worth it and not all that into the design.
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Old February 10th, 2016, 03:10 PM   #107
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New York YIMBY reports: http://newyorkyimby.com/2016/02/hfzs...sey-house.html

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Back in October, the Landmarks Preservation Commission heard a proposal that would remake a good chunk of West 29th Street between Broadway and Fifth Avenue. It would include restoring two landmarks and construction of a 64-story mixed-use tower. The hearing in October was paused because of the late hour and lack of quorum, and when it resumed on Tuesday, it became clear that one aspect of it was the big stumbling block.

HFZ Capital Group wants to build a 796-foot-tall, Jenga-esque, Moshe Safdie designed tower that would have its base massed on West 30th Street. In order to do that, HFZ needs the air rights from the Gilsey House residential building at 1200 Broadway and the Marble Collegiate Church at 1 West 29th Street, both individual landmarks. In order to get all of that, they need the LPC to approve restoration plans for Gilsey House and the church and design the base of the tower to be appropriate for next to the landmarks. It’s all part of a 74-711 application and this is not a historic district.
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Old February 10th, 2016, 06:54 PM   #108
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So ugly. And we get a completely useless courtyard where the Bancroft was. Absolutely nothing about this proposal is appealing.
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Old February 10th, 2016, 07:51 PM   #109
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Ugly?..you could be surprised.
Useless courtyard?..Why??(a courtyard in NY is never useless!)
The Bancroft?..well,there are hundreds of Bancroft in New York.
Moreover you should be more confident:Moshe Safdie is not a Mickey Mouse and has designed so many great buildings!
Many consider him as the most talented architect alive.
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Old February 13th, 2016, 12:48 AM   #110
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I like the thought of an ~800 foot building near ESB for company's sake but not sure how I feel about the design. It's not awful but now amazing either.
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Old February 13th, 2016, 01:23 AM   #111
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Moshe Safdie does great work and this will look amazing! A new Midtown landmark!
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Old February 13th, 2016, 02:32 AM   #112
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Eh I'll admit it's not super ugly, per se, but these boxy protrusions seem very trendy with little real design value. If we're going to block the ESB, why not at least design something that won't look out of date in 5 years? Likewise, the courtyard isn't bad in and of itself, but considering what it's replacing I can't help but resent it..
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Old February 17th, 2016, 07:36 PM   #113
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quite a nice building I think
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Old June 8th, 2016, 02:25 PM   #114
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Gilsey House Restoration Paves Way For HFZ’s 64-Story Moshe Safdie Tower At 8 West 30th Street

http://newyorkyimby.com/2016/06/gils...th-street.html

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A block a little north of Madison Square Park is on its way to a major transformation, thanks to action by the Landmarks Preservation Commission on Tuesday. The block in question is between Fifth Avenue and Broadway, on West 29th Street and part of West 30th Street.
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Old June 9th, 2016, 04:54 PM   #115
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It seems like the USA has almost no historic heritage and they destroyed the few they have
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It seems like the USA has almost no historic heritage and they destroyed the few they have
Work these links, just for NYC, and you may change your mind on that.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lists_...City_Landmarks
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Old June 9th, 2016, 06:35 PM   #117
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In beautiful Los Angeles,Moshe Safdie designed the amazing Skirball cultural Center.
Also,i was couple weeks ago in Singapore where he is very active;the guy is a very talented architect and i feel more than confident for New York.
...Jeremy1988,it may be advisable to be documented before to make a statement...
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Old October 6th, 2016, 08:31 PM   #118
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Also still in prep, but making progress :

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Old February 15th, 2017, 12:55 AM   #119
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