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Old October 17th, 2015, 05:42 AM   #461
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http://news.mtn.co.kr/newscenter/new...01517131821970

Park won sung e visiting HYUNDAI temporal building and official meeting with 김용환 kim young hwan of vice president of HYUNDAI MOTORS and listening project presentation total 1hour

promised supporting HYUNDAI project's administration helping.

"We need help from seoul for this project" say 김용환 kim young hwan of vice president of HYUNDAI MOTORS
"Seoul do our best help for hyundai new head office project... if have no time then overtime night work to support U/C" say park won sung e who seoul mayor

economical effect $ 230 billions(23 years)
New jobs 1220 thousand
New local tax income $ 1.2 billions

http://news.naver.com/main/read.nhn?...aid=0000136215

http://www.nocutnews.co.kr/news/4488947

http://news.naver.com/main/read.nhn?...aid=0006813606

http://www.ajunews.com/view/20151015112452495

http://news.naver.com/main/read.nhn?...aid=0001679808
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Old October 17th, 2015, 05:06 PM   #462
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park won sung e mayor visiting HYUNDAI temporal building(where HYUNDAI 526M project)
and met with vice president of HYUNDAI and promised supporting all effort for this project

Especially he answering first the question "GBC tower height decreased. Is it possible to modifying height further" video 10 second

"Personally concern Tower's height n floor now ongoing negotiation. So height n floor can be openly discuss further" say park won sung e mayor

P.S
He also answering
Seoul medical site can be selling next time. HYUNDAI interesting to buying about this place. They can be buying new land beside this HQ project place.
If hyundai buying then they can united develop much larger plan.
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Old October 18th, 2015, 03:14 AM   #463
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Trade center building by Dohyang Kim, Flickr에서

look trade tower 228m! below simulation with hyundai 571m. Double height!
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Old October 27th, 2015, 03:19 PM   #464
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nonofficial but
Now TWO company competitive in HYUNDAI HQ design

KPF VS SOM

So HYUNDAI TOWER design company will be either KPF or SOM
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Old October 27th, 2015, 03:40 PM   #465
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Does any demolition work have to happen to get the site ready for this? Is that big grey Kepko office tower getting demolished?
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Old October 27th, 2015, 03:40 PM   #466
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Ugh, sigh....So not even a chance for Korean architects? Ridiculous.

Yet more evidence that Hyundai is out of touch with what's necessary to advance itself.
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Old October 27th, 2015, 04:34 PM   #467
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Ugh, sigh....So not even a chance for Korean architects? Ridiculous.

Yet more evidence that Hyundai is out of touch with what's necessary to advance itself.
Well, I would have liked to see a Korean firm shortlisted as well, but it's not like Hyundai has to go with Korean firms. Hyundai Group is in the money-making business, not the "nurturing Korean architectural firms" business. Even the government often picks foreign firms for projects.

Also, we don't know the blueprints and financials of each proposals. Maybe the Korean offers were objectively inferior (because it is still a nascent business in Korea) or maybe Hyundai went for a shiny-looking big foreign name to get extra reputation for this project while eliminating Korean firms without true grounds (which might also be the case).

I'm not saying Hyundai was right (far from it), just that it's a bit unfair to point fingers without having any information at this point.

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Old October 27th, 2015, 04:54 PM   #468
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Ugh, sigh....So not even a chance for Korean architects? Ridiculous.
How if there are no Korean firms specialized in designing supertalls? How?

Korea just starts to gather design expertise for this kind of megaprojects. From 2020 you can maybe expect Korean designs which can compete with those from global leaders:

http://www.businesskorea.co.kr/engli...ign-technology
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Old October 27th, 2015, 07:31 PM   #469
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Well, I would have liked to see a Korean firm shortlisted as well, but it's not like Hyundai has to go with Korean firms. Hyundai Group is in the money-making business, not the "nurturing Korean architectural firms" business. Even the government often picks foreign firms for projects.

Also, we don't know the blueprints and financials of each proposals. Maybe the Korean offers were objectively inferior (because it is still a nascent business in Korea) or maybe Hyundai went for a shiny-looking big foreign name to get extra reputation for this project while eliminating Korean firms without true grounds (which might also be the case).

I'm not saying Hyundai was right (far from it), just that it's a bit unfair to point fingers without having any information at this point.
Point in bold is fair. However, I am of the opinion that if Hyundai wants to do what it needs to in order to remain globally competitive, it's going to have to go upmarket, and in order to do that, it has to burnish not only its own credentials as a producer of high-quality goods designed to be worthy of high prices, but the credentials of Korea, generally speaking, to do the same.

"Made in Korea" still gives people some hesitation--unjustly, but all the same. In order to have the "Made in Korea" brand become valuable, which Hyundai must do because it is seen as (and kind of is) Korea's representative automotive brand, more must be done to publicize the talents of Korea's creative types. People won't trust South Korea to deliver the luxury that Hyundai needs to sell to remain profitable if they're only ever seen as peddlers of second-rate goods.

Hyundai/Kia's reputation is changing quickly, but if it's going to look out for its long term future, it can't be seen as an independent, globalized actor. People don't trust that kind of company, especially in a market as emotional and image-focused as luxury automobiles. People still identify automobiles with their company's homeland, so unless South Korea becomes known as a purveyor of domestically-designed focused goods, Hyundai won't make it.

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How if there are no Korean firms specialized in designing supertalls? How?

Korea just starts to gather design expertise for this kind of megaprojects. From 2020 you can maybe expect Korean designs which can compete with those from global
There's no reason they couldn't have solicited proposals from Korean design firms, taken the aesthetics of them, and figured out the engineering afterwards. As kimahrikku1 said, maybe they did, and the designs were just so far out there as to be totally unworkable for quality or engineering reasons, but that seems unlikely.
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Old October 28th, 2015, 05:02 AM   #470
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look trade tower 228m! below simulation with hyundai 571m. Double height!
is hyundai global very far from lotte tower? how many kilometers?
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Old October 28th, 2015, 05:14 AM   #471
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is hyundai global very far from lotte tower? how many kilometers?
It is approx 2km. They are very near
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so...why doesn't lotte tower appear in the simulation video?
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so...why doesn't lotte tower appear in the simulation video?
maybe it means ignore? haha
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Will any demolition work have to be done on the site of this? Doesn't look like there's much free space in that location right now.
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so...why doesn't lotte tower appear in the simulation video?

I guess They want to focus on Hyundai tower. So ignore that lotte

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Will any demolition work have to be done on the site of this? Doesn't look like there's much free space in that location right now.
actually now there are no demolition
But 8month ago I saw they "Filing excavation" in KEPCO land
So they have a data about soil content
Now hyundai affiliates using that Old building as temporal office
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SAM_4337 by Inno Inno, Flickr에서

lotte 555m view from HYUNDAI HEAD OFFICE

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is hyundai global very far from lotte tower? how many kilometers?

direct 3.3km away from lotte 555m
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Will any demolition work have to be done on the site of this? Doesn't look like there's much free space in that location right now.
According to Google Maps, there are some buildings across the street from the Trade Tower (where the plot is located as shown in the simulation video):


(http://postimg.org/image/3p38dbvj3/)

My best guess is therefore that those buildings need to be destroyed in order to make space for the tower and its surrounding facilities. I believe one of those buildings is a temporary Hyundai office.
(edit: Inno4321 already mentioned this a few posts above me )
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According to Google Maps, there are some buildings across the street from the Trade Tower (where the plot is located as shown in the simulation video):


(http://postimg.org/image/3p38dbvj3/)

My best guess is therefore that those buildings need to be destroyed in order to make space for the tower and its surrounding facilities. I believe one of those buildings is a temporary Hyundai office.
(edit: Inno4321 already mentioned this a few posts above me )
Of course there are buildings on the lot, lol. This is KEPCO's former HQ.

Here is a full picture :

http://www.ohmynews.com/NWS_Web/View...CD=A0001953315

The lot includes all the car parks and tennis courts around the buildings as well.

They haven't demolished anything yet. It will all be taken down eventually. For now they've just replaced the KEPCO sign/logo with the Hyundai one on the main building.
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http://news.joins.com/article/19054463

very glad that Gangnam governor approved "substation" moved to U/C
So far HYUNDAI can't move out that old substation to other place due to gangnam mayor's opposite.

But yesterday official hyundai get approved

So this project going fast!!

"I will support all administrated need for HYUNDAI HQ" gangnam mayor said

p.s meanwhile this approved GANGNAM district asking huyundai donation($ 1.5 billions) for invest in youngdongdaero ONE SHOT DEVELOP(to built world most complicated underground transfer space project).
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I can't imagine why they wouldn't agree to that donation. Having a huge transit center right beneath your megaproject seems like not the worst way to enhance profitability.

Glad to hear this is moving ahead.
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