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Old July 23rd, 2007, 01:49 PM   #161
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Old July 24th, 2007, 04:04 PM   #162
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is the building really something special?
They are printing the name of the architect on huge letters on the advertisement, and announce that its something extraordinayry, but according to the pictures, it looks pretty much the same than those towers that are being build by a lot of other architects in chicago?

Your thoughts?
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Old July 24th, 2007, 09:42 PM   #163
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Careful. Better not voice a contradictory opinion on these boards....

Actually, in this case, I would disagree. While this design is basically a copy of Jahn's own Xerox building from many years ago with balconies added, he's taken the level of detailing to a remarkable level. It deserves merit if only for that note.

As far as unit layouts, there are a lot of missteps with corner master suites instead of living/dining rooms placed there to maximize glass exposure and a lot of stacked bedrooms....but even Skybridge and Contemporaine have some questionable plan moves.

That aside, the material costs alone on this tower are far above anything that's ever been done in this residential market. The developer should be applauded as much as the architect for pushing the envelope......

Now, I will pause for someone to requote this in the text of their response and violently contradict everything I just said.
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Old July 24th, 2007, 10:11 PM   #164
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Nope, you're pretty much right on the money..for once
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Old July 24th, 2007, 10:13 PM   #165
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Careful. Better not voice a contradictory opinion on these boards....
Hardy har har. Actually, I believe most of the regulars on this forum are fairly open to differing opinions, etc. Just be sure to explain WHY you like/dislike something. Thoughtless comments like "I hate this building", with no reasons as to why, isn't going to fly.

Regarding this particular building: Helmet makes a good point about the construction quality and materials. Kind of hard to tell from photographs, but it oozes quality. Get close to it in person and you'll notice just how "tight" and seamless everything is. A fairly simple design, I think, but extremely well executed.
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Old July 25th, 2007, 12:34 AM   #166
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.....A fairly simple design, I think, but extremely well executed.
This is why I like the project also - first rate fit & finish. The glass alone all but looks like quartz, so clear & crystalline.
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Old July 25th, 2007, 04:04 PM   #167
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I know you guys love it, but I’ve got problems with the see-through glass – it may be pretty, but will it be comfortable to live in? (Assuming you’re not an exhibitionist.)

And what will the building look like when the residents pull down those quasi-mandatory window shades?

Reminds me of the old adage: “People who live in glass houses, shouldn’t.”
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Old July 25th, 2007, 05:19 PM   #168
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I'm glad you said that, C-man.......

Of course I'm more worried about the appearance of the backs of different furniture pieces that- last time I checked- condo associations had no control over.

It does seem that in order to preserve the clarity of this residential building, noone should ever live in it. Does that bother anyone else but me?
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Old July 25th, 2007, 08:10 PM   #169
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Moving in will change the look of the building for sure. As a future resident of the building I am not concerned with the amount of glass at all. I do not think anyone will really be able to discern anything going on in the unit from the ground. The surrounding highrises will be able to see across the way but that is often a problem in the city. I think that the building will look great at night with all of the light pouring out from the units. The building is an acquired taste and some will NEVER want to live in it, but that is why they build condo towers like 600 N. Lake Shore Drive.
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Old July 25th, 2007, 09:15 PM   #170
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Actually, I like 600 N. Lakeshore Drive better myself. I'm starting to understand the geometry now that the second tower is a bit taller. There's actually a lot going on there with those two buildings. But to each his own.

...at any rate, Congrats on the purchase!
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Old July 25th, 2007, 11:31 PM   #171
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Not Worth It.

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Actually, I like 600 N. Lakeshore Drive better myself. I'm starting to understand the geometry now that the second tower is a bit taller. There's actually a lot going on there with those two buildings. But to each his own.

...at any rate, Congrats on the purchase!
I like 600 LSD too, but I fail to understand one thing. Why would anyone buy one of the apartments that face inside between the two towers? The sliver views of the lake are not worth it!
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Old July 26th, 2007, 12:55 AM   #172
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Why would anyone buy one of the apartments that face inside between the two towers?
There is 1 unit per floor with this layout, and they all seem to be 1-bedroom condos. I'm guessing that's an acceptable arrangement, in order to squeeze 2 full towers onto that site. And while I'd never buy something with that kind of view either, there's obviously a decent number of people willing to sacrifice the scenery for a lower price. Same thing with floor number: some people are fine living on the 10th floor of a 50+ floor high rise, just because it saves 'em money.
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Old July 26th, 2007, 05:12 AM   #173
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Fairbanks vs 600 N LSD

As a realtor in the area, there is a lot of buzz about 600 N Fairbanks. I have many an interested buyer who could not buy because they did not get in preconstruction. Unfortunately, they are not interested in 600 N LSD (I wish they were) as there are many units still available.

Just the buzz the office.
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Old July 26th, 2007, 05:46 AM   #174
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It is interesting to get a realtor's point of view. Perhaps when you get a chance, you can tell us all the interesting back-story of the multiple AIA award winning financial disaster on the near west side known as Skybridge.
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Old July 26th, 2007, 05:18 PM   #175
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As a realtor in the area, there is a lot of buzz about 600 N Fairbanks. I have many an interested buyer who could not buy because they did not get in preconstruction. Unfortunately, they are not interested in 600 N LSD (I wish they were) as there are many units still available.....
I've had a look at the demo unit at 600 N LSD's sales center; the interiors are uninspired - lots of thin wood panelling, typical developer floorplates - not what one would expect from the more contemporary exterior. The 600 N Fairbanks interior layouts, configurations & finishes are superior - really just a different league altogether.

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.....Perhaps when you get a chance, you can tell us all the interesting back-story of the multiple AIA award winning financial disaster on the near west side known as Skybridge.
Not a particularly interesting back story - the units are too large & expensive for the DINK demographic in the Near West Side.

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Old July 26th, 2007, 06:24 PM   #176
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The units at Fairbanks are superior if you're a big fan of stacked bedrooms with a master bedroom occupying the most desirable corner in the unit, thus relegating living/dining rooms to only having one glass face, and minimal operable windows basically eliminating any possibility of anything beyond the code mandated venting requirement per habitable space.

The way I see it, marketing glitz aside, name-brand architect status aside, standard finishes provided in a model unit because eveyone knows a developer makes his money on the upgrades aside, the units at 600 LSD lay out better....in my humble opinion.

I will now wait to be violently contradicted and condemned.
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Old July 26th, 2007, 07:02 PM   #177
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The units at Fairbanks are superior if you're a big fan of stacked bedrooms with a master bedroom occupying the most desirable corner in the unit, thus relegating living/dining rooms to only having one glass face, and minimal operable windows basically eliminating any possibility of anything beyond the code mandated venting requirement per habitable space.

The way I see it, marketing glitz aside, name-brand architect status aside, standard finishes provided in a model unit because eveyone knows a developer makes his money on the upgrades aside, the units at 600 LSD lay out better....in my humble opinion.

I will now wait to be violently contradicted and condemned.
Violent contradiction - that would be contradiction with a deadly weapon? Don't worry - it's all virtual here - only ego bruises.
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Old July 26th, 2007, 07:08 PM   #178
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10-4, bro.
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Old July 26th, 2007, 09:37 PM   #179
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Regarding the comment about the inside views at 600 LSD, I'm not sure the view to the south of 600 Fairbanks is going to be much better once the proposed hotel goes up between Grand and Ohio.

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Graves Chicago
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Located at Ohio and Fairbanks will feature 220 Luxury guest rooms, a fine dining restaurant, a full service spa and 300 condo units. Opening is scheduled for late 2009.
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Old July 26th, 2007, 09:52 PM   #180
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Buzz

This is just what I hear in the office. Most suburban buyers to prefer 600 N LSD and Avenue East. The amount of windows concern them for a variety of reasons. I like the look of 600 N Fairbanks but I certainly don't care where my clients buy!
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