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Old February 6th, 2017, 02:45 AM   #261
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...everything tall becomes iconic.
Even a concept of a falling tree and a caring gardener trying to prop it up with some wooden planks? That's a fairly wrong brainchild to become iconic.
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Old February 11th, 2017, 10:33 PM   #262
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I know this probably isn't the best place to ask this.. but can someone please explain me or give me a possible theory as to why Chicago is getting proposals like this one, Chicago Spire, Old Chicago Main Post Office redevelop or Thompson Center Redevelopment, all exceeding 500m even though most of them were cancelled, instead of New York?

I mean, New York is having a construction boom with a lot of supertalls but the height never gets past 500m, and I have never seen a proposal for NY, in recent years, around those figures, except Central Park tower which is close but still lower.
It's like Chicago just went after the big fish, skipping the 400m.. but sadly most of them are not getting a green light.
Wouldn't it make sense too that NY had a >500m proposal already?
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Old February 11th, 2017, 11:58 PM   #263
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NYC had such proposals already
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Old February 12th, 2017, 04:08 AM   #264
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I think the building looks a bit out of place in the skyline . . . but it's worth it if it's going to reclaim the title of tallest building in North America! (It is supposed to be the tallest in N.A., right?)
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Old February 12th, 2017, 09:07 AM   #265
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I know this probably isn't the best place to ask this.. but can someone please explain me or give me a possible theory as to why Chicago is getting proposals like this one, Chicago Spire, Old Chicago Main Post Office redevelop or Thompson Center Redevelopment, all exceeding 500m even though most of them were cancelled, instead of New York?

I mean, New York is having a construction boom with a lot of supertalls but the height never gets past 500m, and I have never seen a proposal for NY, in recent years, around those figures, except Central Park tower which is close but still lower.
It's like Chicago just went after the big fish, skipping the 400m.. but sadly most of them are not getting a green light.
Wouldn't it make sense too that NY had a >500m proposal already?
First of all this isn't a real proposal it's a design exercise done by Gensler. Architecture firms do these design exercises to get media attention and try to get their name in the hat for when the owner / developer of a site is looking for an architect.

As far as New York not getting proposals for > 500m buildings it has to do with zoning. Chicago puts no limit on the height of proposals in certain areas where New York zoning has something called the "sky exposure plane" which building designs are generally supposed to adhere to. The "sky exposure plane" goes straight up from the sidewalk to about 75 ft and then angles in toward the center of the block. This is why pretty much every recent supertall in NYC tops out in the center of the block where the sky exposure plane of one side of the block meets the other and why there are so many buildings in NYC with lots of setbacks.
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Old February 12th, 2017, 10:09 AM   #266
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Chicago needs a new signature tower to give the city new life. I like the current towers but they are really getting old.
I think same, chicago not change alot in last 25years, if you watch old tv shows like ''Perfect Strangers'' , ''Family Matters'' they look same today
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Old February 16th, 2017, 02:26 PM   #267
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Even a concept of a falling tree and a caring gardener trying to prop it up with some wooden planks? That's a fairly wrong brainchild to become iconic.
It's called perception and it varies for every single person. But I shouldn't explain such things to people who can not understand the values of individualism.
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Old February 16th, 2017, 03:30 PM   #268
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The taller the better. the city needs it. Its lagging when it comes to this department. AND I don't give a flying FVCK if you think this is a big P E N I S competition.. kiss my big booty fat WAND A S S butt.
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The taller the better. the city needs it. Its lagging when it comes to this department. AND I don't give a flying FVCK if you think this is a big P E N I S competition.. kiss my big booty fat WAND A S S butt.
Well, that's the best argument I've seen so far
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Old February 24th, 2017, 12:56 AM   #271
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I used to live in Chicago that neighborhood. The area is actually relatively quiet compared to other areas downtown, so the neighborhood (Streeterville) could easily handle the additional foot traffic. Hope it gets built, but the sheer size does pull your eye away from all of the other beautiful buildings.
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First of all this isn't a real proposal it's a design exercise done by Gensler. Architecture firms do these design exercises to get media attention and try to get their name in the hat for when the owner / developer of a site is looking for an architect.

As far as New York not getting proposals for > 500m buildings it has to do with zoning. Chicago puts no limit on the height of proposals in certain areas where New York zoning has something called the "sky exposure plane" which building designs are generally supposed to adhere to. The "sky exposure plane" goes straight up from the sidewalk to about 75 ft and then angles in toward the center of the block. This is why pretty much every recent supertall in NYC tops out in the center of the block where the sky exposure plane of one side of the block meets the other and why there are so many buildings in NYC with lots of setbacks.
Also because NYC is boring and expensive which precludes any kind of architectural risk.
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Old February 28th, 2017, 05:08 PM   #273
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The reason why New York City has recieved so many supertalls and skyscrapers in the past few years is simply becasue of the absurd rental and condo prices, as soon as prices drop, so do skyscraper construction, same applies to office space. Chicago prices aren't nearly as high as New York. I'm surprised that San Francisco doesn't have more growth.
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Old March 1st, 2017, 06:01 AM   #274
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Also because NYC is boring and expensive which precludes any kind of architectural risk.

New York as a 'boring' city. Some amazingly valuable information coming from you.
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I know this probably isn't the best place to ask this.. but can someone please explain me or give me a possible theory as to why Chicago is getting proposals like this one, Chicago Spire, Old Chicago Main Post Office redevelop or Thompson Center Redevelopment, all exceeding 500m even though most of them were cancelled, instead of New York?

I mean, New York is having a construction boom with a lot of supertalls but the height never gets past 500m, and I have never seen a proposal for NY, in recent years, around those figures, except Central Park tower which is close but still lower.
It's like Chicago just went after the big fish, skipping the 400m.. but sadly most of them are not getting a green light.
Wouldn't it make sense too that NY had a >500m proposal already?
1. NYC has nothing to prove, compared to the Asian and Middle-Easttern cities;
2. The heights of above 500m are highly impractical, so if you don't have to show off, you're free to focus on what's really important.

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...I shouldn't explain such things to people who can not understand the values of individualism.
It's only because you cannot explain the architectural concept where it is simply absent.
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New York as a 'boring' city. Some amazingly valuable information coming from you.
If gentrification was a place, it would be manhattan island.
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Why does this remind me of the Shanghai Tower so much

Anyways, would be a great addition for Chicago. Easily the 4th best city in the country
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Surely you jest.................. :-)
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Why does this remind me of the Shanghai Tower so much
For no apparent reason, obviously.
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