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Old November 2nd, 2014, 04:50 PM   #21
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Places where the world record could be:
- Australia: coastal road or Adelaide-Alice Spring-Darwin desert road.
- Canada: Trans Canadian Highway or some N-S routes (like roads to Inuvik or Yellowknife)
- Russia: possibly in Siberia (road Moscow-Vladivostock or the gravel road to Magadan)
The Trans-Canada, besides having several options between Montreal and northern Ontario, has its share of TOTSOs and even a couple of ferry crossings. And when this started, we were limited to motorways.
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Old November 2nd, 2014, 04:51 PM   #22
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Highway 400 + 11 + 17 is pretty long.

Edit: wait, you need a turn in Sudbury. Never mind.
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Old November 2nd, 2014, 04:57 PM   #23
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This is probably the longest in the world, since the area is almost entirely roadless

https://www.google.it/maps/dir/Skovo....8!2d59.566667
There is a TOTSO at the bridge over the river Indigirka.
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Old November 2nd, 2014, 05:04 PM   #24
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We should add the history of the discussion:











The eastern part of the German A4 begins at the A7 interchange AD Kirchheim. The road continues in Poland. The total length is about 1,000km now. After completion of the last Polish A4 section (May 2016) the road will run up to the Ukrainian border (about 1,100km). If Ukraine would extend the road up to Kiev, it would have a length of about 1,700km. This should be the longest European road you can drive without taking an exits. But it's a dream of the future .

I have some candidates which are direct motorways with a lot of changes in road numbering:

- Starting on the A9 at interchange AK Nuremberg (A3), you get on the A10 at AD Potsdam, drive around Berlin, end up on the A24 which continues as A19 and B105. The road ends after 700km in Rostock: > click < = 5 road numberings.
- Starting on the B4 in Hamburg, following the A255, A1, A7, A5, A6, A81 you end up at the A8 interchange AD Leonberg near Stuttgart after 688km: > click < = 7 road numberings.
Actually, there's more history than that - examples from China and the U.S. - in the German thread. Strange place for it, I know. That's why it was moved.
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Old November 2nd, 2014, 06:15 PM   #25
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Are non-European capitals acceptable? ;-)
I've been expecting this I erased the word "european" from the last sentence just before clicking on the submit button

I tried to point out, that motorways were in many cases built at first as an "in and out-of-the-city" road and the numbering does not and can't take TOTSOs into account.
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Old November 2nd, 2014, 06:24 PM   #26
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Multiple, there are TOTSO's at the Horster Dreieck, the Hattenbacher Dreieck and Kreuz Memmingen.
You're right with Horster Dreieck and Hattenbacher Dreieck but the AK Memmingen is not a TOTSO (> click <).
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There is a TOTSO at the bridge over the river Indigirka.
It doesn't seem so, the main road is the one that turns there. Anyway, the road is cut about halfway by the Aldan river, which needs a ferry in order to be crossed and thus invalidates this run.
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You're right with Horster Dreieck and Hattenbacher Dreieck but the AK Memmingen is not a TOTSO (> click <).
Sorry, it is only a TOTSO at the A96, but it is continuous at the A7.
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Old November 2nd, 2014, 10:20 PM   #30
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If I didn't mess up in the French part, I may have a new European record of 1809 km from Paris to Trieste, provided you begin to drive on the left lane:
https://maps.google.nl/maps?saddr=Me...&via=1,2,3&z=6

It follows the condition "staying on the same lane", but in the Italian part there are some points in which two lanes are forced to merge into one. And close to Genova (A10 > A26) the central lane splits symetrically in two directions, you are not actually leaving it (in this case you go left).
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Old November 2nd, 2014, 10:32 PM   #31
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The Trans-Canada, besides having several options between Montreal and northern Ontario, has its share of TOTSOs and even a couple of ferry crossings. And when this started, we were limited to motorways.
The first post doesn't say that it's limited to motorways only.
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Yup, but this started as an off-topic at the German thread. And then, when I made this thread I decided not to restrict to motorways only.
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It doesn't seem so, the main road is the one that turns there. Anyway, the road is cut about halfway by the Aldan river, which needs a ferry in order to be crossed and thus invalidates this run.
It looks like there is an U/C bridge.
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Old November 2nd, 2014, 11:07 PM   #34
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Yup, but this started as an off-topic at the German thread. And then, when I made this thread I decided not to restrict to motorways only.
That wasn't clear to me, but that may be because I already knew and had participated in the context (the OT).

So, carry on! (But we could have a sort of topic-within-a-topic of longest TOTSO-free motorway.)
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Old November 2nd, 2014, 11:13 PM   #35
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2720km in Australia
https://www.google.it/maps/dir/-12.4...131.8383491,5z
There's a roundabout in Alice Spring, though, but the main road goes straight across it.
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Old November 4th, 2014, 03:14 PM   #36
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So what's actually the rule for a three way intersection. Some of them are a clear T shape others are more even. Which option is "straight" for intersections like Zürich-Ost, or is there simply no "straight" lane here.
https://www.google.ch/maps/@47.4129932,8.5784281,16z
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Old November 4th, 2014, 03:57 PM   #37
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^ Depends on which lane you're looking at.
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Yep, I agree with Verso.

What is debatable is where a single lane is splitting:
https://maps.google.ch/maps?ll=44.42...00142&t=k&z=20
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Yep, I agree with Verso.
That's always wise....
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