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Old April 6th, 2005, 01:37 AM   #101
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well i think the offshore developments hould go in 1 thread, coul we have it renamed?

btw, jumeriah lake towers arent in jumeriah, which is 10km to the north.
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Old April 6th, 2005, 02:01 AM   #102
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I believe that in about 50 years, half of Dubai will be deserted because there is more supply than demand. Second of all, I like it but it is almost too much at once. Doesn't that island building harm the ocean? Maybe they will erode... I like the projects but not all of them.
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Old April 6th, 2005, 01:01 PM   #103
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will help the ocean, they are building artificial reefs round them. was in a press release a while ago.

there is a huge interest in dubai, most of these projects sell out within a few weeks of opening registration. They wouldnt build them otherwise. Lots of investors from england and the rest of europe are interested in homes in dubai, it will one day become a very thriving city. but i guess we can only wait and see
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Old April 6th, 2005, 06:38 PM   #104
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I believe that in about 50 years, half of Dubai will be deserted because there is more supply than demand. Second of all, I like it but it is almost too much at once. Doesn't that island building harm the ocean? Maybe they will erode... I like the projects but not all of them.
i believe that it is wrong what you believe.
no demand? just look at the sales offices...and these aren't only investors who want to catch the train...
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Old April 7th, 2005, 01:05 PM   #105
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dubaiflo, firstly the media in Dubai is basically one huge propoganda machine, not everything is as rosy as it seems.
secondly the Palm Deira is doing TERRIBLY, and I think in the 2005-7 period there is either going to be a levelling of prices or a drop in prices, right now they are a little ridiculous.
thirdly in a few years a lot of the projects are going to have terrible maintenaince problems, because there is no construction code in Dubai so what may be considered "high quality" construction here might really be like a mudhut thrown together in two minutes flat by someone from Europe/USA/etc. A good example is the "luxury villas" sitting on a hill in Jebel Ali that have subsidence and have to be demolished. Why haven't you heard about it? Because the media is told to hush it up and instead release press statements talking about 7000units being sold in 24 hours AKA Jumeirah Village
fourthly, population growth figures. they might be accurate but it does not take into account the TYPE of people that are arriving. Tens of thousands, if not hundreds of thousands and incoming expats are labourers, they will never be able to afford a house on the Palm Jumeirah or elsewhere..
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Old April 7th, 2005, 01:19 PM   #106
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why does everyone think $500k is expensive? that gets you a 2 room flat in london, and yes your neighbours will be very close, it will rain constantly, and you wont have your own private beach front. personally i think theyve under priced the properties on palm jumeirah and spread them out to much.
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Old April 7th, 2005, 01:22 PM   #107
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^That is true.

But is also true that both your's (Juiced) and Dubaiflo's families have bought apartments in Dubai. Your's for renting it and he's as a holiday home.

Edit: My post is on reply to Juiced post.
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Old April 9th, 2005, 09:45 PM   #108
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and i suppose a lot of other familes did the same...
well juiced is right, media is propaganda mostly, but did i say anything different?
and did i see building quality is great?

and concerning the mass of labours who are coming, they don't live in tower apts or most of the other projects we are talking abt here as you said, so they have not much influence on the demand...

palm jum topic: well the prices increased about 100% on secondary market but they are in fact still very reasonable...not to forget the prestige of the project!!
we paid almost as much for our apt as we would have paid for one on Palm Jum, though ours isn't secondary.
quality/maintenance might be a problem too but you have to watch out for the developer carefully and if you do, you might not get any problems.
if you buy lowcost and crappy developer (see pacific tower) it might be different...
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Old April 12th, 2005, 06:10 PM   #109
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why does everyone think $500k is expensive? that gets you a 2 room flat in london, and yes your neighbours will be very close, it will rain constantly, and you wont have your own private beach front. personally i think theyve under priced the properties on palm jumeirah and spread them out to much.
In the San Fernando Valley $500K gets you a 3 br 2 ba single fam. residence
apx 1400 sq. ft. on a 6000 sq. ft. lot-If you can find one for sale. Housing market is kinda tight and this is in an average neighborhood not an 'upscale' neighborhood and usually there is no underground utilities. 1/2 mill for a house whew! Most nicer homes go for about 600-700k.

BTW last time I logged onto thepalm.ae the homes there were going for about the same altho much larger, waterfront but no fireplaces and no 3 car garages and a 2 car garages only (I guess there not much of anywhere to drive to in the Emirates)
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Old April 13th, 2005, 03:48 PM   #110
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BTW last time I logged onto thepalm.ae the homes there were going for about the same altho much larger, waterfront but no fireplaces and no 3 car garages and a 2 car garages only (I guess there not much of anywhere to drive to in the Emirates)
There is no need for a fireplace in here; you'll never have the oportunity to use it. As for the garagges that is the norm and better not sacrificing valuable space for something (3rd car garagge) that many will not use it, and if they'll have more then two cars, one can always be parked outside.
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Old April 14th, 2005, 03:01 PM   #111
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All Arabian Ranches villas have a fireplace, God knows why
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Old April 14th, 2005, 03:04 PM   #112
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In the San Fernando Valley $500K gets you a 3 br 2 ba single fam. residence
apx 1400 sq. ft. on a 6000 sq. ft. lot-If you can find one for sale. Housing market is kinda tight and this is in an average neighborhood not an 'upscale' neighborhood and usually there is no underground utilities. 1/2 mill for a house whew! Most nicer homes go for about 600-700k.

BTW last time I logged onto thepalm.ae the homes there were going for about the same altho much larger, waterfront but no fireplaces and no 3 car garages and a 2 car garages only (I guess there not much of anywhere to drive to in the Emirates)
1400sq ft? Isn't that a little squashed for a 3bd 2ba ?
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Old July 31st, 2005, 12:14 AM   #113
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shoreline apts up to 7F tall already.
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Old July 31st, 2005, 01:38 AM   #114
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Nice.
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Old July 31st, 2005, 02:06 AM   #115
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I wish we could get some pics of the villas and see how dense all the fronds are.
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Old July 31st, 2005, 02:09 AM   #116
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^ We have those pictures on UAE forum, and propably even here on the earlier pages. Really dense.
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Old July 31st, 2005, 02:16 AM   #117
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I've seen those but wonder if they've done that on all the fronds. There haven't been pictures of the villas posted since about 3 months.
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Old July 31st, 2005, 09:43 AM   #118
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if it just was as accessible as other construction sites....
like burj dubai's for example

there is no chance to get on there i think unless you have bought property
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Old July 31st, 2005, 11:27 AM   #119
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why does everyone think $500k is expensive? that gets you a 2 room flat in london, and yes your neighbours will be very close, it will rain constantly, and you wont have your own private beach front. personally i think theyve under priced the properties on palm jumeirah and spread them out to much.

Dubai is pretty cheap if you compare it with other places around the world. But thats one the the big advantages of Dubai. You get luxury for little money.
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