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Old June 28th, 2004, 03:11 AM   #181
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Some rather nice photos of a Ryanair 737-200 operating at the remote
Haugesund Airport in Norway. Ryanair only has 15 of the smaller 737-200s
and they are used to operate the lowest capacity routes (130 passengers
per plane). These planes will also serve another European destination from
Stansted during a single working day - there is not enough traffic to and from
Haugesund to justify more regular flights. Copied from the site:

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Haugesund Airport is definately not a big airport and, typical for Ryanair, they
choose this type of airport because of the low landing fees. For international
travelers the airport have small and exclusive tax free shop.....






Arrival of Ryanair 737-200 from London/Stansted




Quick turn around is typical for Ryanair - now ready for boarding




Out on the runway - now to taxi south to the end of it




Cleared to take off RWY 32




Airbourne - London/Stansted next

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Old June 28th, 2004, 06:57 AM   #182
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Hmm....pretty obvious it is not price competitive enough on the Sg-Jkt sector, and no wonder they are not filling up the planes much. Some of the full service airlines have almost comparable fairs even when its not a special discount or something!
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Old June 28th, 2004, 10:33 AM   #183
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EasyJet and Ryanair have also placed what I believe to be the largest orders in airline history from Boeing and Airbus. Here is a breakdown of their gigantic orders - remember these are orders only - it does not include their current fleets:

Ryanair:
150 x Boeing 737-800s confirmed (50 delivered so far)
100 x Boeing 737-800s on option
250 x Boeing 737s total

EasyJet:
120 x Airbus A319s confirmed
120 x Airbus A319s on option
240 x Airbus A319s total


In the year to March Ryanair grew by 47%.
Those are single orders right? How long will it take for them to to received all the planes on order?
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Old June 28th, 2004, 10:59 AM   #184
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/\ Yes they are single orders and they will take a few years to deliver. I know Ryanair have so far received 50 of their 737-800s. In April EasyJet had received 11 of their Airbus A319s.
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Old June 28th, 2004, 11:41 AM   #185
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I think Southwest and Jetblue also the world fastest growing airlines.

southwest has around 400+ 737s if im not mistaken.

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Old June 28th, 2004, 11:42 AM   #186
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Exactly, whats the point to fly budget airlines if you can fly with full services, PTV airlines like SIA, Cathay, etc and paying almost the same prices

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Old June 28th, 2004, 01:31 PM   #187
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/\ Yes but neither can match the annual passenger growth of Ryanair and EasyJet. JetBlue is too small to have the same annual increases and Southwest is already very large and grwoing at a more sedate pace. Yes Southwest have recently taken delivery of their 400th 737.
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Old June 28th, 2004, 02:14 PM   #188
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I suspect there is some airline in Asia that is exploding at similar levels to Airbus and Easyjet, I have no idea of names or figures though.
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/\ Yes I think China Eastern Airlines may be a competitor but no-one has provided figures.
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Old June 28th, 2004, 03:09 PM   #190
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I saw a China Eastern A340 plane landing in Heathrow on Saturday. It is based in Shanghai.
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/\ Or maybe is it China Southern Airlines - I can't remember.
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Old June 28th, 2004, 03:56 PM   #192
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I found some figures for Southwest Airlines:

2001 = 64,446,773
2002 = 63,045,988
2003 = 65,643,945

Southwest is a monster and model for the entire budget sector but it's not growing anywhere near as fast as Ryanair and EasyJet.
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Old June 28th, 2004, 04:13 PM   #193
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I dont think its one of the Chinese airlines...there was a recent shake up in the industry there, and three major airlines, Air China, China Eastern, and China Southern have swallowed up several smaller players, which might have explained the sudden growth in size?
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China Southern Airlines - also nowhere near as fast as Ryanair and EasyJet:

2000 - 16,850,740
2001 - 19,120,860
2002 - 21,492,730
2003 - 20,470,230
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Nonetheless, Easyjet and Ryanair are growing possibly far to fast. They are going to have to consolidate their positions or risk sinking each other in the long run
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JetBlue is too small to compete though percentage growth is impressive - where Ryanair and EasyJet were a few years ago:

2000 - 1,144,421
2001 - 3,116,817
2002 - 5,752,105
2003 - 9,011,552
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Nonetheless, Easyjet and Ryanair are growing possibly far to fast. They are going to have to consolidate their positions or risk sinking each other in the long run
Both airlines have a very high load factor (ie percentage bums on seats) - higher than any other airlines mentioned here. Also they have excellent financial health - especially Ryanair. I don't think they are in danger of sinking at all. Their growth is entirely sustainable in financial terms.
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Hmm....about the case of AirAsia? They might be making a 200 plane order by the end of this year!
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Some comparisons with other fast growing airlines - albeit far slower than either Ryanair or EasyJet:

Southwest Airlines:
2000 - 63,278,261
2001 - 64,446,773
2002 - 63,045,988
2003 - 65,643,945

JetBlue Airways:
2000 - 1,144,421
2001 - 3,116,817
2002 - 5,752,105
2003 - 9,011,552

China Southern Airlines:
2000 - 16,850,740
2001 - 19,120,860
2002 - 21,492,730
2003 - 20,470,230
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Hmm....about the case of AirAsia? They might be making a 200 plane order by the end of this year!
They don't have an "Investor Relations" section on their website with annual reports so I cannot get the statistics (I assume it is a privately owned airline). However I do know that they only have 17 aircraft at present so there is no way they could achieve the same kind of annual increases as Ryanair or EasyJet.
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