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Old July 10th, 2004, 06:26 PM   #241
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/\ No they don't carry cargo. They want to cut down on hold baggage simply to reduce airport costs so that they can achieve even lower fares.
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Old July 10th, 2004, 06:33 PM   #242
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No offense but sometimes many people unsafe to fly with China airlines because of their safety records, but its proven wrong for quite sometimes, i never heard any major accident in the last 5-6 years from CA.
What a relief. I would have felt unsafe otherwise. Compare that to QANTAS's record. No crashes--EVER! No deaths--EVER! Their biggest accident was a Bankok Airport where they went of the end of the runway. There was some damage to the plane.

QANTAS was established in 1923. Need I say more?
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Old July 10th, 2004, 06:47 PM   #243
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Can I just say, Australia doesn't do well with more than two carriers. We used to have QANTAS and Ansett. Neither were LCC, except they still tried to beat each other. Then Impuse(A former rural airline) tried to enter the market as a LCC. It got bought out by QANTAS. Then Virgin Blue started up in May 2001. Then, in the fall after September 11, that was the final nail in Ansett's coffin. It went belly-up. Mainly because it's parent company, Air New Zealand took all of the money out of it. Anyway, for 3 years, we have had Virgin Blue Vs QANTAS. Now QANTAS has started a LCC of its own(So that it doesn't have to cut prices anymore). JetStar started in May and from personal experience, I can say it's crap. First of all, they use Avalon Airport in Melbourne. 65 Kilometres out of the city and they're the only airline to use the airport. Virgin Blue is so much better. Cheaper, with wider, longer seats with more leg room. And the planes don't look like they're about to fall apart. Once ailing Coolangatta Airport, now sold to commercial investors, re-named Gold Coast Airport, is now one of the busiest airports in the country and has started international operations. Gold Coast Airport is the only major Australian airport where Virgin Blue has the largest passenger share, currently at 35% nationally and 70% here. With QANTAS cutting back services, this is expected to increase to 80-90% here. I hope Richard Branson starts another non-LCC airline to compete with QANTAS.
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Old July 10th, 2004, 06:52 PM   #244
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It makes sense traditional airlines, with their higher cost structures, would retreat from the short-haul market and focus on long-haul, where budget carriers are unable to compete. Naturally they'd want to set up a cheaper LCC for the short-haul routes that will ferry passengers to their long-haul hubs.
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Old July 10th, 2004, 06:53 PM   #245
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/\ No they don't carry cargo. They want to cut down on hold baggage simply to reduce airport costs so that they can achieve even lower fares.
Anyway remember valueair in Singapore, which you dismissed as a quasi-budget airline? I have to add that they actually carry cargo too to supplement their income!
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Old July 12th, 2004, 05:30 AM   #246
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This story was printed from TODAYonline

Budget airlines wooed with no-frill terminals

Monday • July 12, 2004

GENEVA — After offering prestige terminals, business lounges and air-conditioned gangways, airports are now risking a bruising battle with big airlines to offer cheaper terminals.

Air France on Thursday threatened legal action against Geneva International Airport's pioneering decision to move ahead with a low-fee terminal, where passengers can expect minimalist service and a walk onto the wind-swept tarmac.

Budget competitors Easyjet and Virgin Express are lining up to be the first clients for the cheap terminal late next year, which Singapore and Kuala Lumpur are ready to emulate, industry officials said.

"It's a move away from the gold-plated customer service to just give a passenger an electronic ticket and a seat," finance director at the global airport association Airports Council International (ACI), Mr Paul Behnke, said. "We see it coming for the future."

After budget airlines eliminated in-flight food and creature comforts, Geneva's revamped 1949 charter building is promising a similar approach on the ground and a 40-per-cent lower passenger-handling fee.

Terminal 2 will be open to all airlines as a cheaper alternative to the current terminal. Landing and security fees will stay unchanged, though.

Although the terminal is being developed with the help of the top airline body, the International Air Transport Association (Iata), Geneva's move prompted a stern response from mainstream carriers including Air France, Lufthansa and Swiss.

"The decision to lower costs is applied in a discriminatory manner and only on part of the platform," said Air France chief executive for Europe and North Africa, Mr Etienne Rachou.

Iata said its 250 members — which do not include most of the budget airlines — want cuts in ground charges across the board, not only in special dedicated terminals; and claimed airports were earning excessively fat profit margins.

They also demanded the standard passenger service fee should not be used to subsidise the low-cost terminal in Geneva.

"Provided there's no cross subsidisation, it's not for us to be happy or unhappy with it," Iata spokesman Anthony Concil said.

Some of the best customers for ACI's 556 member airports in recent years have been budget airlines that also bring new travellers and expand the whole market.

"Airports need to segment their marketing exactly like the airlines do. A business-class seat will cost more than an economy seat," said Mr Behnke.

"An airport providing a jet bridge and waiting area will charge more than for a passenger walking to an aircraft and climbing the stairs," he added. — AFP

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Old July 12th, 2004, 06:59 AM   #247
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To some extent the European budget carriers are using less popular airports to prevent fighting for slots with the main international carriers while saving landing charges at the same time. For London, Gatwick, Stansted, and Luton are already used by Ryanair or Easyjet.
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Old July 13th, 2004, 09:15 AM   #248
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Business Times - 13 Jul 2004

Ryanair to add 10 new routes and 1 base

(LONDON) Ryanair Holdings plc, Europe's biggest low-cost airline, will start as many as 10 new routes this winter, including destinations in Eastern Europe, and add one new base in 2005.

'The new EU accession countries have doubled their packages on offer and asked Ryanair to fly to their airports,' chief executive Michael O'Leary said at a press conference in London. 'If we do 10 new destinations next year one or two will be into Eastern Europe.'

Ryanair's passenger count last month gained 24 per cent from a year earlier to 2.27 million travellers after the company added routes, including Dublin to Murcia and Reus in Spain and Nottingham, England. The Dublin-based carrier also opened bases at Rome Ciampino and Barcelona Girona airports in the last year.

The company will increase its fleet by 10 planes to 82 aircraft in the year through March 31, 2005, when it receives 17 new Boeing Co 737-800s and retires seven old planes.

Ryanair may also cut two of its existing 149 routes if load factors, or the proportion of seats filled, does not rise, Mr O'Leary said. Ryanair's June load factor gained 8 percentage points to 87 per cent. The company would not identify the routes that may be cut.

The new routes would be part of the airline's winter schedule. Mr O'Leary would not say where the new base may be. - Bloomberg

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Old July 16th, 2004, 12:23 PM   #249
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Merpati to Recommence Bandung, Singapore Flights

BANDUNG, W Java, July 16 Asia Pulse - Indonesia's Merpati Nusantara Airlines is ready to recommence flights between Bandung, capital of Indonesia's West Java province, and Singapore by December at the earliest, an official has said.
"We will reopen the route due to the potential market," Merpati's marketing director, Toto Nursatyo, said here Thursday.

Merpati closed the route following the onset of the economic crisis in 1998.

Toto expressed confidence that the route will give the airline a big advantage as the number of passengers departing for Singaporefrom Bandung reaches about 1,500 a week.

Merpati plans to use a Boeing 737-300 for the Bandung-Singapore route, he said.

The airline will again offer direct flights between Bandung and Palembang (South Sumatra), Batam (Riau) and Denpasar (Bali) this year.

Toto said Merpati Airlines is planning to open routes from Bandung to several subdistricts in West Java using a CN-235.

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Old July 16th, 2004, 12:25 PM   #250
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It should be tough for Merpati because AirAsia is increasing their flights from JB to Bandung twice a day daily.

but I am sure merpati can offer something because if you use airasia, means you need to ride a bus to JB
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Old July 16th, 2004, 12:38 PM   #251
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I agree.....anyway thats great news for people travelling between Singapore and Bandung......

Here's Merpati taken at Changi Airport......
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Old July 16th, 2004, 08:31 PM   #252
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wow... i've not seen such a short jet plane yet! it looks really tiny! what is it?
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Old July 16th, 2004, 08:46 PM   #253
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Should be B737-300
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Old July 17th, 2004, 06:43 AM   #254
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That is 737-200adv,

737-300 the one that Merpati will use for Bandung - SIN route is the same like the one that AirAsia use.

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Old July 17th, 2004, 06:51 AM   #255
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Old July 17th, 2004, 07:15 AM   #256
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737-200 Advanced is tiny.
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WHY those no-frills airways not coming to Taipei

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Old July 17th, 2004, 10:54 AM   #258
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But taiwan going to get hi-speed train.......
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Need cross strait tunnel under of south china sea to run of Taiwan Shinkansen Na~~~~

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Taiwan already have UNI air, thats low cost airlines too. I once tried it from Bali to Taipei, using MD-90. But why bother to use no frills airlines if China airlines is also cheap and their service is quite good?

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