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Old November 27th, 2004, 09:53 PM   #601
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From the map it looks like Ryanair's longest routes are one of London to Brindisi, London to Palermo, or Glasgow to Rome. They all take approximately 3 hours.
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Old November 27th, 2004, 10:06 PM   #602
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The longest flown by either of them is EasyJet's route to Athens from the UK. From London it takes 4 hours and a bit longer from other parts of the UK.
Yeap I just hapapend to discover it myself too. I am asking this, because two of the 3 new LCCs (or maybe quasi LCC by some definitions) starting here are saying they will be flying in a 5 hour radiaus around Singapore, and I was like wondering how does that compare in approximate range with Europe. Seems like we are disadvantaged by being surrounded more by sea then land!
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no lah..maybe the 'desirable' cities that many like to go to are a little further away

I shant comment on what is 'desirable' though
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Hahaa...but just see how much monkey is enjoying himself shuttling all over Europe like taking bus rides! I cant hardly wait to do the same thing over here!
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Thursday November 25, 02:58 PM
Ryanair may face tiff with German state over notice period for route closure

ERFURT, Germany (AFX) - Ryanair PLC may face a dispute with the east German state of Thuringia over the closure of its Stansted to Erfurt route, which the state's Ministry of Transportation pointed out violates the six month notice period included in its contract with Ryanair.

An exception is possible if there are 'important reasons' for cancelling the contract, the Ministry said.

A Ryanair spokeswoman said the airline cannot be forced to 'service a route that is loss-making,' but added the company is open to talks.

Ryanair announced yesterday it plans to close its 'under performing' route from Stansted to Erfurt on Jan 19 and its Barcelona to Turin route on March 1.
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Monkey, do you fly much BMI Baby? I think they are a LCC too. I think they might be on the verge of bk.
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Old November 28th, 2004, 05:26 PM   #607
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BMI Baby are indeed a low cost carrier. It is kinda like the same scenario BA used to have with Go!

I'm also not sure what you mean by "bk"; Bankruptcy? They have in recent months expanded and in the coming months are opening up 40 new routes, unless you have insider information
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BMI Baby are indeed a low cost carrier. It is kinda like the same scenario BA used to have with Go!

I'm also not sure what you mean by "bk"; Bankruptcy? They have in recent months expanded and in the coming months are opening up 40 new routes, unless you have insider information
Well, BMI's CEO recently said "We are not making any money on short flights," and given that most of their flights are short, and go against other LCC, it doesn't sound good.

BMI Baby sounds cute
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Hahaa...but just see how much monkey is enjoying himself shuttling all over Europe like taking bus rides! I cant hardly wait to do the same thing over here!
LCC's in Europe are actually undercutting long distance buses on price!! Remember that LCC travel is within the EU so there are no visas or restrictions for EU citizens. We are all free to move, live, work etc in each others countries without any restrictions whatsoever. I can go and live in Italy tomorrow and start a business in Sweden the next day. ASEAN cannot provide this level of integration given the much wider dispartities of wealth in SE Asia. I think on the Singapore LCC thread I picked up on a comment by one Singaporean LCC CEO saying that the European and American markets were "domestic". I disputed that by saying that in Europe the market is overwhelmingly international. However he probably considers internal EU flights to be domestic which is a fair point.

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Monkey, do you fly much BMI Baby? I think they are a LCC too. I think they might be on the verge of bk.
No I've never flown them. They are based in the Midlands not London - and yes I think they will go bankrupt. They are an old airline that tried to convert to the budget airline formula but only half heartedly. By contrast Ryanair's Michael O'Leary was absolutely ruthless and uncompromising in pursuing low cost principles and that is why he was able to transform a bankrupt airline into the world's most dynamic and fastest growing LCC.
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Yeap I just hapapend to discover it myself too. I am asking this, because two of the 3 new LCCs (or maybe quasi LCC by some definitions) starting here are saying they will be flying in a 5 hour radiaus around Singapore, and I was like wondering how does that compare in approximate range with Europe. Seems like we are disadvantaged by being surrounded more by sea then land!
Well there's nothing you can do about greater distances. That's just geography. All LCCs in SE Asia face the same fundamental geography so Singapore's LCC's won't be disadvantaged relative to those of neighbouring countries. It also won't stop the LCC model from taking off in SE Asia. Remember that America also has greater distances than Europe but that didn't stop LCC's from developing and prospering there. Singapore is the best placed SE Asian city to draw traffic from Australia as well as from mainland SE Asia. I think Bangkok and Thai resort cities will offer Singapore the most intense competition as LCC destinations/hubs.
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Posted: 29 November 2004 1247 hrs

Valuair partners Wotif.com to provide online hotel deals

SINGAPORE : Valuair Ltd, Singapore's first value-for-money airline has partnered with last-minute global accommodation specialist, Wotif.com, to provide last minute hotel deals to its online users.

With this partnership, Valuair customers will have direct access to Wotif.com's great last-minute accommodation deals and enjoy savings of up to 70 percent for accommodation bookings in the next 14 days across a wide range of over 6000 hotels, motels, services apartments in over 32 countries.

Through this collaborative effort, Valuair aims to complete the whole travel experience by giving its customers not only value-for-money airfares but also attractive accommodation deals, which according to Sim Kay Wee, CEO of Valuair, is pivotal for customers who are becoming more informed and selective when making their travel choices online.

Said Mr. Sim, "Both Wotif and Valuair are increasing market share and brand awareness in the region and we both offer a value-for-money service. It's only logical that two like-minded businesses should join forces in providing what we feel is the best value in the industry."

This partnership is also very timely for Wotif.com as it sets its sights firmly on growing its market presence in Asia.

"We applaud the inroads that Valuair has made and are delighted to be working closely with a company that shares Wotif.com's pioneering spirit and commitment towards delivering greater value to customers," said Charles Tee, Chief Operating Officer, Wotif.com - Asia.

"The bringing together of great value fares with last-minute discounted accommodation deals has made the whole travel experience even more affordable and attractive. We are confident that this will not only make travel accessible to a larger audience, but also in turn give rise to more frequent and spontaneous travel. We are obviously very proud to be part of this strategic alliance that will be a major driver for growth of the travel market in the region," added Mr. Tee.

With no pre-registration and only 5 clicks to book, the simplicity of Wotif.com's easy-to-use website and booking engine with fast loading pages has been specially designed for the convenience of the user.

Prices are based on the hotel's inventory of real-time room availability in the next 14 days for instant booking and confirmation.

All rates are inclusive of taxes, with no hidden or unexpected extras to pay for. - CNA

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Nov 29, 2004
Valuair ties up with hotel-booking agency

SINGAPORE - Singapore-based budget carrier Valuair said on Monday it was teaming up with an online hotel-booking agency to offer its fliers access to discounted, last-minute accommodation.

Under the deal, Valuair's website has been linked with that of Wotif.com, an Australia-based booking company that offers rates on hotels and serviced apartments for the coming 14 days.

The tie-up includes a revenue-sharing agreement, but details were not disclosed. The deal lasts for an initial 12 months and may be extended.

Valuair flies from Singapore to Bangkok, Jakarta, Hong Kong and the West Australian city of Perth. It has said that routes to destinations in China will be added in the coming months.

The company is one of a slew of no-frills airlines that have started operations this year as established airlines and new players jockey for position in the fast-growing travel sector. -- AP
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Monday November 29, 1:33 PM EST
Ryanair To Announce Shannon As New Base Tuesday-Source

DUBLIN -(Dow Jones)- Ireland's no-frills airline Ryanair Holdings PLC will Tuesday announce Shannon Airport as a new base, a source close to the company said Monday.

"Chief executive officer Michael O'Leary will announce that a new base will be established at Shannon Airport Tuesday and will be flying down there tomorrow morning," the source said.

Although the source wouldn't give details, there's been speculation that Ryanair arranged a five-year, 50 cent landing charge at new routes at Shannon, compared to average charge of EUR7.50.

With Ryanair expected to go ahead with its Shannon announcement, the decision - plus recently announced additional Irish routes - is the most significant Irish move in about 10 years, analysts say.

Earlier this month, Ryanair announced the addition of a route from Shannon to Liverpool. It already flies from Shannon to Frankfurt/Hahn, Glasgow/Prestwick, Beauvais and Charleroi.

The move by Ryanair is also seen as a direct competitive move against low-cost rival EasyJet (EZJ.LN), which will have four daily flights from London/Stansted to Shannon in January.

It remains to be seen whether Ryanair can now secure a new deal at Dublin Airport, although analysts say this depends on the Irish government giving the go-ahead to an independent terminal there.

At Monday's close, Ryanair shares were flat at EUR5.10 on the Irish Stock Exchange.

Company Web site: http://www.ryanair.com

-By Quentin Fottrell, Dow Jones Newswires; 353-1-676-2189; [email protected] dowjones.com
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Dec 2, 2004

LION AIR CRASH
Budget carriers give safety assurance

Operators insist that cheaper fares do not mean lower safety standards

By Karamjit Kaur
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AFTER two runway accidents involving budget airlines in recent weeks, low-cost carriers have moved quickly to dispel any notion that cut-price fares equal compromised safety.

Following Tuesday's Lion Air crash in Java that killed 26 people and an incident on Nov 7 when an AirAsia plane skidded off a runway in Kota Kinabalu, the safety of budget carriers has inevitably come under scrutiny.

Valuair and Tiger Airways - Singapore's two budget airlines - have both maintained that safety is a top priority.

Valuair's chief executive officer Sim Kay Wee said: 'Without a safety culture, one should not even think about operating an airline.'

Tiger's chief executive officer Patrick Gan cited an incident in October when one of the airline's two planes was grounded in Bangkok due to an electrical fault.

He said: 'We could have solved the problem temporarily by moving some of the parts around, but I did not want the aircraft to take off until the affected part was replaced with a spare part, which had to be flown in.

'Under no circumstances do we compromise on safety.'

Mr Con Korfiatis, the chief operating officer of Jetstar Asia, a budget airline scheduled to begin operating out of Singapore this month, said: 'The true savings come from flying more hours in a day, thereby using the aircraft more effectively.

'Maintenance and crew-training procedures are never compromised.'

Quicker turnarounds between flights do not necessarily mean that maintenance crews are spending less time checking aircraft, according to aviation experts.

Mr Peter Harbison, the managing director of the Sydney-based Centre for Asia Pacific Aviation, said extensive aircraft checks are not carried out between flights anyway.

Airline safety is also not necessarily affected by the age of the fleet.

The Lion Air plane involved in Tuesday's crash was 24 years old.

Valuair, Tiger Airways and Jetstar Asia all operate brand new planes, while the average age of an AirAsia aircraft is 16 years.

But AirAsia chief Tony Fernandes pointed out that an aircraft's safety or efficiency is not measured by its age but by how well it is maintained.

He said that AirAsia is regulated by the Department of Civil Aviation of Mal- aysia, which adheres to international standards.

An airline's wealth may be a factor, but even major airlines have recently been trimming their expenses.

Mr Anthony Concil, spokesman for the International Air Transport Association, which represents more than 280 full-service airlines, said: 'The last three to four years, airlines have been cutting costs to stay lean and efficient.

'But this has not been at the expense of safety.'

Last year, a record low of 27 fatal accidents, involving 702 deaths, occurred worldwide, compared with the 1,022 people who were killed in 40 fatal airline accidents in 2002.

Records also show that since 1970, many of the major United States-based carriers, including Delta Airlines, Northwest Airlines and United Airlines, have had fatal accidents, while low-cost carriers such as JetBlue and Southwest Airlines have maintained clean records.

The Civil Aviation Authority of Singapore (CAAS) requires all airlines to meet various standards before they are given an operating licence.

A CAAS spokesman said regular safety inspections and audits are carried out even after licences are issued.

The two mishaps

-On Nov 7, an AirAsia Boeing B737-300 aircraft carrying 110 passengers skidded off the runway at Kota Kinabalu's international airport on landing and ended up with its nose wheel embedded in the soft soil. A five-year-old girl sprained her wrist and two other passengers suffered minor injuries.

-On Tuesday, a 24-year-old Lion Air MD-82 plane with 153 passengers and crew on board skidded off the runway at the Adi Sumarmo airport in Solo, central Indonesia, while landing in heavy rain. The aircraft broke into two on the tarmac, killing 26 people. One Singaporean woman who fractured her ribs, legs and an arm is in stable condition.

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Ryanair says paid in-flight TV popular
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Wed 1 December, 2004 16:46

LONDON (Reuters) - Europe's biggest low-cost airline Ryanair says about 30 percent of passengers paid to use its new in-flight entertainment system during initial trials.

Chief Executive Michael O'Leary said the airline needed three percent penetration to recoup its investment in the entertainment system which it introduced to six aircraft last month.

"At the moment, based on initial trials, it looks like the penetration rate will be 30 percent," O'Leary told an Institute of Economic Affairs conference in London on Wednesday.

The system is being introduced across the airline's entire fleet in April to May next year.

Passengers have to pay five pounds or seven euros a flight to access movies, cartoons and television shows on the portable units which look like a small laptop.

Airlines are seeking new sources of non-ticket revenue as they battle high fuel costs and lower fares amid tough competition.

O'Leary reiterated that the airline, which is currently unhedged, did not plan to introduce a fuel surcharge and would not resume hedging until oil prices fell.

He said Ryanair would still turn a profit even if oil hit $75 (39 pounds) a barrel.

"If it goes to $75 a barrel we will be the only break-even airline in Europe. At those prices we will probably be the only airline in Europe flying," he said.

Oil prices hit a record high of $55.67 on October 25, but have since fallen more than $7.

Ryanair, which announced on Tuesday it would set up another European base at Shannon in Ireland, did not plan to expand aggressively in eastern Europe for at least three or four years, he said.

Ryanair shares were trading 4.13 percent firmer at 5.3 euros by afternoon trading.
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Also Ryanair's market capitalisation has overtaken BA's again and is also ahead of merged Air France/KLM. By this measure Ryanair is once again Europe's largest airline. From Reuters:

- Ryanair = £2,667.11 million
- Air France/KLM = £2,645.54 million
- British Airways = £2,404.04 million

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Three Valuair flights cancelled
More than 250 passengers affected as its new Airbus fails to arrive on schedule

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VALUAIR had to cancel three flights to Bangkok and Jakarta in the last two days because its new plane, which was supposed to be here a few days ago, is still in Toulouse, France.

More than 250 of its passengers were transferred to flights by other airlines, among them Garuda Indonesia and Tiger Airways, the low-cost carrier told The Straits Times.

Valuair's third Airbus 320 was scheduled to arrive here before the airline started its Perth service on Wednesday, the same day it added a second daily flight to Hong Kong.

But because of an administrative hiccup on the part of aircraft manufacturer Airbus, the plane will be delivered only next week, said Valuair's chief executive officer, Mr Sim Kay Wee.

Meanwhile, he said, the carrier chartered an aircraft yesterday to do its scheduled flights to Bangkok and Jakarta, so 'our passengers' travel plans remain unchanged'.

The Straits Times understands the airline paid top dollar for the plane because it was a last minute arrangement and there is a shortage of that model of aircraft, also used by other budget carriers like Tiger Airways and Jetstar Asia.

It generally costs about $489,000 a month to lease, but the bill is much higher if the plane is needed for a short period.

It is not clear whether Valuair or Airbus will be picking up the tab.

DBS Vickers aviation analyst Chris Sanda does not expect the hiccup, which comes about seven months after Valuair started flying, to affect the airline's long-term reputation although affected passengers would be unhappy.

One such person is Mrs Priya Murthy, 31, who is off to Bangkok with her husband today. p> According to the teacher, Valuair called her on Wednesday night to tell her her noon flight today was cancelled.

She said: 'The woman didn't say why the flight was cancelled. Just that we'd been moved to the 4.50pm flight. I was unhappy because it means we'll arrive in Bangkok late. In the end, she moved us to the morning flight.'

They had paid $240 each for their flight.

She said: 'We picked Valuair because we thought it would offer a better level of service than the other budget carriers. Had I known this was going to happen, I would've paid more to fly Singapore Airlines.'

When told of Valuair's delivery delay, she pointed out that the carrier could have handled affected customers better.

Mr Sim told The Straits Times: 'We'd like to apologise to all passengers who may have been inconvenienced.'

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Whoops...this reminds me of the Jakarta fiasco. They certainly need to do something about their crisis management!
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Business Times - 06 Dec 2004

Jetstar Asia seeks destinations in India, China

SINGAPORE - Budget airline Jetstar Asia on Monday announced cut-rate fares to its initial destinations of Hong Kong, Thailand and Taiwan and said it was seeking rights to fly to India and additional routes to China.

Singapore-based Jetstar Asia Pte Ltd, which is backed by Australia's Qantas Airways Ltd, said a ticket to Hong Kong would start at a promotional S$48 each way with service beginning Dec 13.

A one-way fare to the Thai beach resort of Pattaya would start at S$29 beginning a week later, while service from Singapore to Taipei would start on Dec 16, with the price of a one-way ticket starting at S$88.

Jetstar's chief operating officer, Con Korfiatis, also said the airline would begin flying to Shanghai from January, but company officials were also eyeing other Chinese destinations south of the commercial centre.

He said the carrier was hoping that Singapore's 'very proactive' pursuit of trade deals with China and India would open up the possibility of new routes for Jetstar to those countries.

Mr Korfiatis said the impending free trade deal between the republic and New Delhi would likely result in new destinations such as Chennai and Bombay 'sooner rather than later' for the budget carrier.

Jetstar Asia is the third low-cost airline to be launched this year out of Singapore after Valuair and Tiger Airways - backed by Singapore Airlines Ltd.

'We have said from the beginning that our success will depend on our ability to grow the market and by becoming the first low-cost carrier to serve several major population centres,' Mr Korfiatis said.

The low-cost carrier's four other confirmed destinations - Shanghai, the Philippines capital of Manila, Surabaya and Jakarta in Indonesia - would be offered from January.

Mr Korfiatis said earlier that Jetstar Asia would differentiate itself from its rivals, including the region's low-budget pioneer, Malaysia's Air Asia Bhd, by flying longer-haul routes.

Singapore's aviation authorities have embraced the growth of low-cost fliers and are building a passenger terminal at Changi Airport specifically for discount airlines. It is set to open in 2006. Jetstar Asia is 49 per cent held by Qantas, Australia's national carrier. Its other significant backers include Temasek Holdings Ltd, the Singapore government's main investment arm, which holds 19 per cent.

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