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Old May 9th, 2005, 01:40 AM   #81
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The US did the same thing with flags of every color during the 80s in places and it got phased out.
Huh? Where? inside your house? Your claim is blatantly false. Show me some pictures if you can.

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Chinese culture has always been colorful. I dunno what's wrong with that.
Now you are mixing up metaphors with simple physical descriptions. We are discussing architecture and the closely related issue of taste, not cultures. What do you mean "colorful"? like the sea of red during the murderous Cultural Revolution? or the pale faces of hunger during the starvation set off by the infamous Great Leap Forward? LOL!

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Europe in the past paid buckets of gold for silk, porcelien, carvings. You can find alot of Chinese art and interior decor inside of homes of many high-class Americans and European royalty.
(1) That's irrelevant.

(2) The claim about royalty's interior decor is your speculation

(3) Some private antique collection for investment or personal enjoyment is not the same as widespread acceptance of Chinese interior decor as high-class. The latter never happened, not even in China.

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Old May 9th, 2005, 01:45 AM   #82
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Well an_architect, I'm sure you're right. I'm sure that the trash stagnant suburban sprawl of the United States is far superior to the developments in China.

Whatever.

The hilarious thing is that style, fashion and design really are relative and often linked to economic prowess. With the US economy in structural decline, and China set to become the next dominant force in the world, you really don't have your eye on the future.

"Freedom of speech in Western democracies" HA! Anyone knows that freedom has illusory qualities wherever you live. Difference is you believe you are free!

Some reading for you (it's not too difficult, you might try it one day)...

- Chomsky, N (2004) Hegemony or Survival : America's Quest for Global Dominance

- Marcuse (1964) One Dimensional Man

Both written by your fellow countrymen, and both removing any shred of legitimacy from the shite you have spouted in this otherwise good thread.
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Old May 9th, 2005, 01:49 AM   #83
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Here is some Chinese architecture for ya.............



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Old May 9th, 2005, 02:20 AM   #84
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ChristCharlton,

you don't know what you are talking about!

you don't even have the lucidity to stay on the topic at hand for one minute without straying off to totally irrelevant and unrelated issues.

one more time - we are talking about architecture, in particular, the ugly Chinese-designed buildings and poor urban planning in Shanghai.

But as a rebuttal to your geopolitical babble, China is rising because the West allowed it. In fact, the West is helping it. Without the massive economic and technological assistance from the West, China would still be NOTHING!

I wish you had been in China during the Cultural Revolution. maybe you would have learned something first hand instead of from the books.

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Old May 9th, 2005, 02:22 AM   #85
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neon, get a clue. There are no "China bashers" here.

The subject has always been architecture.

If you are so intolerant of opposite opinions or are suffering from a mean case of inferiority complex, I recommend you stop coming here.

If you are so intolerant of Chinese architecture,then dont call yourself an architect

sorry,we have No tolerance of a di*khead
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Old May 9th, 2005, 02:25 AM   #86
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skipperBill,

the Long Wall of China is better known for its historical and cultural significance rather than its architectural merit.

Architecturally speaking, China's Long Wall is an artistically and technologically inferior design employed on a massive scale. It was built using barbaric brute force. Tens of thousands (at least) of Chinese died in the process.

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Old May 9th, 2005, 02:34 AM   #87
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If you are so intolerant of Chinese architecture,then dont call yourself an architect

sorry,we have No tolerance of a di*khead
neon the idiot, saying that buildings in Shanghai are ugly does not constitute intolerance of Chinese architecture.

as for tolerating a di*khead, you sure have done a good job tolerating yourself and your fellow narrow-minded chinese idiots like Raymond_Tung88, JAKT and IJKT123.

I've long noticed that the Chinese are in general the most intolerant people in the world when it comes to dissenting opinions. AND that applies to Chinese dissidents, including OVERSEAS dissidents!!!!!
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Old May 9th, 2005, 02:42 AM   #88
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another semi-illiterate China boy is here. and a pretty typical lame copycat as well. hahahahahahaha.

"I offended everyone"??? No, monkey boy. I might have offended some uneducated, narrow-minded, stupid, nationalistic Chinese idiots. But not everyone. I know the Chinese take up one fifth of the world's population, but fortunately that's not 100% of the population.

What are you trying to say? the rest of the world must praise the ugly crap shoots rising in Chinese cities? or that if they make a factual statement that a particular building in Shanghai is ugly, then they are "against China"?

if that's the case, you should crawl back to your rat hole in China right now. Why stay in the U.S. or Canada or any other English speaking country?? In the civilized West, freedom of speech and expression is a fundamental value of society. Not even the government has the right to censor it, much less a brainless Chinese monkey boy like you.
Well, if that's your take on things, so be it. I'm not here to "change" you're opinion, but some people may find your comments rude and insulting. Its okay to have opinions, but please, if they're not good or particularly positive, then refrain from announcing them publicly. Anyways, most people like the skyline of Shanghai so I'm afraid you're the odd one out. But anyways, life goes on.
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Old May 9th, 2005, 02:43 AM   #89
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Yo Architect! if all the people here are brainless fools, why don't you hook up with Mensa or something?
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Old May 9th, 2005, 02:45 AM   #90
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guys, an_architect is obviously a really bored individual who ruins discussions to keep himself entertained, or he's just an extremely annoying attention seeker.

Whatever it is, just don't pay him any attention and he'll go away.
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Old May 9th, 2005, 02:59 AM   #91
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Well, if that's your take on things, so be it. I'm not here to "change" you're opinion, but some people may find your comments rude and insulting.
that's their problem. not mine. they should change their attitude to be more rational, objective and tolerant of different opinions.

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Its okay to have opinions, but please, if they're not good or particularly positive, then refrain from announcing them publicly.
then there wouldn't be any real discussions would it? everybody just lavish fake, totally undeserving compliments on ugly buildings. how do people learn from mistakes if they all employ the traditional Chinese way of denial and avoidance?

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Anyways, most people like the skyline of Shanghai so I'm afraid you're the odd one out. But anyways, life goes on.
most people? you mean like the majority of Chinese (mainland, taiwan, HK)? hahahahaha.

did you ask I.M. PEI or architects of his calibre? (I'm not even talking about elite Western architects.)

There are plenty of info available on the internet about what renowned world-class architects think of Beijing's and Shanghai's new buildings and skyline.

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Old May 9th, 2005, 04:13 AM   #92
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i'm done here.

Mr.Dick,do whatever you like to erect yourself,but do

remember this is not a porn site.its all you fault if the thread gets

locked.
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Old May 9th, 2005, 04:28 AM   #93
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that's their problem. not mine. they should change their attitude to be more rational, objective and tolerant of different opinions.
Maybe you should take your own advice on this one buddy... You sound really stuck up and ignorant but yea... you're right. its YOUR probelm NOT mine!
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Old May 9th, 2005, 08:57 AM   #94
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IJKT123,

Too bad I don't have a monkey in my house, or I'd have let it argue with you.
No need..! you already..... (a monkey)... hihihihih..

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I'm not interested in talking with brainless boys like you. Judging by your idiotic rantings, I'm sure you are just a lonely social misfit.

You should thank me for spending time responding to your garbage posts.
garbage 4 garbage...
u deserve garbage since all ur post are garbages.
how come u expect ppl to give you diamond as reply to ur garbage ?
Have u forgot that u unable to answer my question...instead u only post insult & garbage?

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Why do you have such a strong urge to deny that you are Chinese? Granted I'd be ashamed to be a Chinese if I were one; but why deny the obvious? inferiority complex? hahahahahaha
Because I am not - why do I have to admit what I am not - u silly ....

But actually I admire china and will be proud if I were a chinese....bcs 21th century will be a chinese century why do they have to be ashamed in the era where they should be proud of themself??? silly....

I pitty your narrow mind. :bleh:

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Old May 9th, 2005, 09:11 AM   #95
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thx for all ya support mon amies but you see i just learned a new term from my korean friends here on SSC 姜太公 or great fisherman, i think this term is absolutely suitable for an "architect", he is just trying to stir things up and we are too easy to catch the bait, so let's stop here, enjoy life and let an "architect" have his moments.

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Old May 9th, 2005, 09:27 AM   #96
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thx for all ya support mon amies but you see i just learned a new term from my korean friends here on SSC 姜太公 or great fisherman, i think this term is absolutely suitable for an "architect", he is just trying to stir things up and we are too easy to catch the bait, so let's stop here, enjoy life and let an "architect" have his moments.

peace
Thx sen, u are right!
I see most persons here are descend, knowledgable, well mannered and civilized - except that guy who try to act like an architect.

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Old May 9th, 2005, 10:20 AM   #97
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Thx sen, u are right!
I see most persons here are descend, knowledgable, well mannered and civilized - except that guy who try to act like an architect.
At the very least, he uses fairly good grammar and can spell. Architect is also not lazy enough to compact words to 'u' or 'thx'.
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Old May 9th, 2005, 11:11 AM   #98
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For me I love shanghai's skyline and if

becomes true then HELL to NY's skyline
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Old May 9th, 2005, 11:19 AM   #99
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it looks great and futuristic.........
but its not very stylish..................
Pearl Tower for example.......
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Old May 9th, 2005, 12:41 PM   #100
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if this is reality, then it is a bit dull and an unplanned mistake
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