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Old December 17th, 2014, 03:01 PM   #1
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This is just a concept rendering. In any event, this tower should be at least 250m.

[IMG]https://****************.wordpress.com/2014/12/renderings-2.jpg?w=231[/IMG]


http://nypost.com/2014/12/17/action-...uth-buildings/
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Old December 17th, 2014, 07:05 PM   #2
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We also hear that Harmon, Spies and and Kevin Donner of Eastdil Secured were just hired to market the development site that includes the former Syms store at 42 Trinity Place in Lower Manhattan. Sitting west of Trinity Church, it also includes 67 Greenwich St. and 81 Greenwich St.
The trio was hired by former Forest City executive, Matthew Messinger, now CEO of Trinity Place Holding, which took over the assets of the failed discount retailer.
Architects FxFowle have already prepared a rendering to help market the site that can be developed as-of-right with a mixed-use building of roughly 300,000 square feet. Nearby, Time Equities is averaging $2,400 per square foot for its condominiums on West Street and the future buyer of this site could include condos and hotel or even office space along with street retail.


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Old December 18th, 2014, 02:39 AM   #3
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Damn, really too bad that's just a concept render, because it looks great. Whoever picks up the site should just hire FXFowle to fill out that design and start building.
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Old December 18th, 2014, 02:45 AM   #4
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I love towers that are wide on one side and thin on the other.
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Old December 18th, 2014, 07:14 AM   #5
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This should be in the skyscrapers section, not the highrises section.

Also, there are potential air rights from adjacent sites, so this building could end up extremely tall depending on the buyer.
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Old December 18th, 2014, 02:22 PM   #6
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This should be in the skyscrapers section, not the highrises section.

Also, there are potential air rights from adjacent sites, so this building could end up extremely tall depending on the buyer.
Threads are not placed based on what could be built. It's better to err on the side of caution than mislead the thousands of people who use this forum as a resource for reliable information.
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Old December 22nd, 2014, 10:43 PM   #7
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Originally Posted by LondoniumLex View Post
This is just a concept rendering. In any event, this tower should be at least 250m.

[IMG]https://****************.wordpress.com/2014/12/renderings-2.jpg?w=231[/IMG]


http://nypost.com/2014/12/17/action-...uth-buildings/
that would be very slender with 250 meter.
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Old December 24th, 2014, 11:22 AM   #8
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Threads are not placed based on what could be built. It's better to err on the side of caution than mislead the thousands of people who use this forum as a resource for reliable information.
Then 100% of the "proposed" supertall and skyscraper threads on SSC are inaccurate and unreliable, because something not yet built obviously doesn't have a 100% confirmed height.

Why are there any threads for proposed skyscrapers and supertalls? There is no guarantee of anything until a building is built, so, if SSC is using equal standards for all, there should be no separation of threads into random sections.
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Old April 8th, 2015, 07:51 AM   #9
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First Look: 42 Trinity Place, Another Supertall Coming to the Financial District
http://newyorkyimby.com/2015/04/firs...-district.html







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Last December, renderings of plans for the site at 42 Trinity Place surfaced, with a design by FX Fowle. They came with news that the site could accommodate a 300,000 square foot as-of-right project. YIMBY has now learned that the site may end up with a building in excess of one million square feet, for which we now have the first preliminary renderings.

The bulk of the new development rights come from Trinity Church, which had 600,000 square feet of extra air rights sitting unused. That square footage will be added to the existing allotment (which has also apparently expanded to include a long-stalled hotel site at 50 Trinity Place), allowing a tower with over one million square feet of air rights to rise, likely resulting in a supertall.

Studio C Architects is behind the current images, which show the rough potential of the site’s future occupant.

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Plans have the building rising 80 stories and 1,015 feet, though another tipster notes the tower could go even higher.
The air rights’ assemblage is larger than any other predominantly residential supertall in the works except for 217 West 57th Street, and the site could easily support a configuration that results in a significantly taller final height.

Like the Nordstrom Tower, 42 Trinity Place will also be mixed-use. Preliminary plans call for a two-story retail space, topped by three floors for the Department of Education, followed by a hotel spanning floors 7 through 38. Above, the building will be entirely residential.

The location is increasingly prime, and several prominent developments are either under construction or in the planning stages in the surrounding blocks. 50 West Street is already rising, fresh filings are up for 125 Greenwich, and demolition will soon begin on 68-74 Trinity Place. All will feature condominiums at very high price-points, a trait 42 Trinity will probably share.

The southern edge of the tower abuts the Robert and Anne Dickey House on Edgar Street, a lackluster remnant of pre-war Manhattan that somehow has Landmark status (detailed in an extremely lengthy PDF). Despite the building’s lack of any redeeming aesthetic value, it will be maintained forever, and plans for 42 Trinity call for the supertall to slope downwards, with its southern envelope nearly stooping to the roof of the Dickey house.

No completion date has been announced, but as of late last year, Trinity Place Holdings was the site’s prospective developer. The assemblage also extends to Greenwich Street, and its northern edge is bound by Rector.
1015' (Possibly More)
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Old April 8th, 2015, 08:02 AM   #10
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Hmm, it does appear sufficiently supertallish. Elevator going up!
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Old April 8th, 2015, 08:12 AM   #11
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this, 125 Greenwich and the Broad Street sites should create a nice contemporary-modern line of towers south of the WTC.
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Old April 8th, 2015, 09:40 AM   #12
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Maybe this news will get that Shvo-poke moving on a better, more fitting look for his tower... love the layered glassy look on this one!
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Old April 8th, 2015, 10:07 AM   #13
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Awesome news
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I don't really like it.
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Old April 8th, 2015, 10:22 AM   #15
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Whoa, feels like this came out of nowhere. I dig the overall form, sort of a skinny twin to 4 WTC. Not a huge fan of those triangular slopes in the facade although this seems pretty preliminary. Just glad to see more height in the area to complement the other non-WTC proposals (especially if Shvo goes 1400ish feet).
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Old April 8th, 2015, 01:23 PM   #16
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Maybe this news will get that Shvo-poke moving on a better, more fitting look for his tower... love the layered glassy look on this one!
Don't count on it. He's a Shvmuck.
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Old April 8th, 2015, 02:47 PM   #17
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That huge parking garage between Greenwich and West Streets must come down. There was a plan a few years ago to build a tower over it on the West St side, which is adjacent to Jahn's 50 West St.

A tiny portion of the garage is visible on the left side if this photo.

Here's another view of another portion of that tumor/garage.


There also were proposals to cap the entrance to the Battery Tunnel, just south of this site and make a park. Anyone interested can Google Greenwich Street South.
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PS: I just checked Acris and don't see a deed for 50 Trinity Pl.

Anyway, while I like this design, this clearly is just a proposal to show the potential to developers.
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Maybe this will inspire Shvo to go past 850' at 125 Greenwich too.
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Yes!! That would be a slap in the face with this news if I'm Shvo or he will really be a Shvmuck as Lex says. lol.

I like the possibility that the Source in Yimby's article implied the possibility that this tower could possibly be even taller than 1,015'! How much taller?? hmmm. We shall see.

More stuff for 42 Trinity via Studio C Architects.




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