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Old September 23rd, 2007, 10:19 PM   #121
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Right... but, having the thicker lite on the outside serves two purposes: 1) better aesthetic uniformity (due to less deflection), 2) less sound transmission (when coupled with adequate air space between lites).

So, the question is... why would anyone EVER put the thicker lite on the interior? I can't think of a single reason to do so. So, there shouldn't have been any added cost in different extrusions because, in theory, it should be the same for the entire tower.
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Old September 24th, 2007, 04:06 AM   #122
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I think some brainiac wanted a 9/16" airspace for better insulation and less sound transmission. In order to keep all the alum. extrusions and rubber for a 1" unit, that same brainiac took the extra sixteenth out of the exterior lite. I'll talk to my project manager tomorrow to see how this came about. If he doesn't know, I have a good friend who is VP, North American Building Envelope, for Oldcastle Glass, maybe she has some insight. It does puzzle me too.
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Old September 26th, 2007, 01:25 AM   #123
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Not to bore you all to death, but it was as I figured. They wanted less sound transmission, so they made the airspace bigger, without having to change alum. extrusions. Although no one can tell me yet, why the outside lite was made thinner. More later, I hope.
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Old September 27th, 2007, 05:41 PM   #124
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lol... still makes no sense

Thanks for all the research, though
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Old October 10th, 2007, 08:21 PM   #125
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Just walked by the Clare about an hour ago. It looks downright awful from Chicago Avenue. Why couldn't they have made the entire facade curve instead of breaking it up like that? It totally despoils the view of that old historic building on the corner of Chicago and Wabash.
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Old October 13th, 2007, 05:12 AM   #126
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We call that area of the building the 'zig zag'. I know, the design really makes no sense.
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Old October 13th, 2007, 05:27 AM   #127
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Just walked by the Clare about an hour ago. It looks downright awful from Chicago Avenue. Why couldn't they have made the entire facade curve instead of breaking it up like that? It totally despoils the view of that old historic building on the corner of Chicago and Wabash.
^ That's too bad.

But one of my favorite things about cities like Chicago and New York is the rather brash and loud ugliness intermixed with nice urban streetscapes.
These elements scream of the present state of a city's organic growth; that it's a city still living, growing, and changing; it continues to make mistakes out of (for lack of a better word) hubris; it's not some quaint city of the past like many in Europe, whose greatest days are behind them.
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Old November 9th, 2007, 03:26 AM   #128
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Old November 10th, 2007, 09:18 PM   #129
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People can say what they want about this building but I think it's really great! The shape is unique - rarely do you see buildings taller than 30-40 floors that are round, and it's by Perkins+Will/Ralph Johnson, so I trust the greatness of the design.

Thanks spyguy (and Al.R.To)!
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Old December 15th, 2007, 06:02 PM   #130
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Taken 12/14/05 (It's getting pretty tall)
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Old December 29th, 2007, 05:36 AM   #131
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Old January 4th, 2008, 10:42 PM   #132
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Old January 4th, 2008, 11:51 PM   #133
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I like that rooftop pavilion with the red and blue lights on the Peninsula - I wonder if I can get up there without being a guest?
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Old January 7th, 2008, 09:02 PM   #134
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That's right outside the lobby bar area, so you can certainly get close. Not sure if they're allowing the public to freely roam on the terrace, but I know you can use it for events and parties.
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I like that rooftop pavilion with the red and blue lights on the Peninsula - I wonder if I can get up there without being a guest?
Just eat at Shanghai Terrace in the warmer months.
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Old January 8th, 2008, 02:22 AM   #136
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I like that rooftop pavilion with the red and blue lights on the Peninsula - I wonder if I can get up there without being a guest?
Yes, you can eat there in the summer months. It is a restaurant for anyone not just guests....the food is ok, nothing spectacular. My wife and I go to the cocktail lounge at least once a week which is just across from the out door eatery (cannot remember the name off hand)....
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Old January 12th, 2008, 11:11 PM   #137
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Old January 13th, 2008, 02:23 AM   #138
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By my unofficial count, looks like there's about 6 more stories to go. She didn't turn out quite as tall as I thought she would. But, I really do like the tower (even the saw-tooth back that everyone else seems to hate).
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Old January 20th, 2008, 06:03 PM   #139
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Nice!

I love this building, it's nice to see some variety in RiNo. It would be great to see the Canyon Ranch building go up nearby and then we'd have two nice cylindrical towers to break up the monotony in the area.
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Old February 11th, 2008, 07:12 AM   #140
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Took these last weekend at the corner of Rush & Walton. From that vantage point it doesn't look that tall.

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