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Old March 15th, 2005, 04:30 PM   #61
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Isn't Columbus, GA one of those Georgia cities that grew in population b/c it merged with the surrounding county?
Yes, Columbus did merge with its county. The county and city consolidated in 1971. The county is very small in square miles at 216 sq. miles. The city is building up very fast and is running out of developable land. Harris County to the north has seen significant growth in the last 10 years. Also, Lee County, Alabama, which borders Columbus, has seen a lot of suburban development from people moving outside of the city. I say within the next 20 to 30 years, Columbus and Atlanta will be completely connected. Also, Ft. Benning is adding a new brigade that is going to bring between 15,000 to 18,000 new residents to the city.
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Old March 18th, 2005, 07:00 PM   #62
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Anymore ideas on what Columbus needs in order to become more competitive in the Southeast?
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Columbus really does have the potential to be a BOOM city. Yes, it is relatively small. But it was the birthplace of Coca Cola, and it has Aflac, Synovus, which are major Fortune 500 companies.
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Aflac is the only Fortune 500 company headquartered in Columbus. Synovus and TSYS are respectable corporations but they are not in the list.

gah and I pretty much agree on most points--the basics for making Columbus a more attractive place to live and work. Use Atlanta as an advantage--tap off of that energy. Don't just let Atlanta eventually leak out into the Columbus area. Attract satellite campuses, improve travel infrastructure, embrace an intelligent growth policy from the get-go... don't do "more of the same", people are tired of that.

Columbus's major employers don't really employ a huge number of people. Therefore I would assume that they are not the big draw. Columbus does have its share of blue-collar or narrow-skill jobs, but the existing white-collar jobs appear to lean towards health insurance and financial processing. Given the existing infrastructure for those industries, I would think that Columbus should attact more pertinent employers and naturally expand what they have. <-- Build from that.
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It also has a very excellent airport as well that can expand. My general practioner lives in Harris County and commutes to the extreme northside of Atlanta four days a week. But has a 125 acre plantation home in Pine Mountain that is stunning, and also a minimal condo in an old complex in Atlanta, but loves living near Columbus.

Believe me it is an up and coming city.
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It also has a very excellent airport as well that can expand. My general practioner lives in Harris County and commutes to the extreme northside of Atlanta four days a week. But has a 125 acre plantation home in Pine Mountain that is stunning, and also a minimal condo in an old complex in Atlanta, but loves living near Columbus.

Believe me it is an up and coming city.
Columbus is definitely moving in the right direction. With the new Muscogee Technology Park, Columbus will continue to bring in high-tech industry. Techsphere Systems International is building its new HQ in the park which will create over 1,000 new jobs in the next 4 years. Also, Heckler & Koch is building a big operation in the park creating 500 new jobs. This new park is only in the beginning stages and will be unbelievable when fully built out. Downtown is also seeing a lot of new development along the river with Columbus State University and new lofts. You are right SkyscraperBuilder, Columbus is really becoming an up and coming city.
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Here is some new information on the DT redevelopment of a mill that will turned into condos, retail, and restaurants. This is from the Columbus Ledger-Enquirer. It is a long article but sounds really interesting.

Development to bring residences, restaurants, retail and office space to historic site

A historic Columbus mill site dating back to the mid-1800s is on the verge of dramatic change.

The old Eagle & Phenix Mill that sits on the east bank of Chattahoochee River in downtown Columbus will be converted to residences, restaurants and office space. The project is projected to cost more than $50 million and take up to 10 years to complete.

The mill and 16 acres of prime riverfront real estate was purchased from the bankrupt Pillowtex Corp. for $5.8 million by the W.C. Bradley Co. more than a year ago.

Now, the Columbus company, with its partner Columbus-based Flournoy Development Co., is moving forward with plans to tear out non-historic chunks of the mill. That work began earlier this month.

That demolition -- which will leave six historic mill structures standing -- will open up a world of possibilities for reuse of the city's oldest industrial site.

"We hope at the end of the day it is a community within itself," W.C. Bradley Real Estate Division President Mat Swift said.

It is another significant investment step being made along the river.

Consider the recent riverfront expenditures:

• $100 million TSYS campus that opened in September 1999.

• $40 million Columbus State University performing and visual arts campus that is under construction and renovation at the base of Dillingham Street Bridge.

• $30 million expansion of the Columbus Convention & Trade Center that was complete last year.

• $22 million Synovus Centre, a five-story office building opened last year between 11th and 12th streets.

The more than $242 million in reinvestment -- counting plans for the Eagle & Phenix -- has happened along a one-mile stretch of urban riverbank.

The plans

Plans for the mill were developed over the last 18 months after visits to similar mill restoration projects in Savannah, Atlanta, Chattanooga, Tenn., and Greenville, S.C.

The Eagle & Phenix property includes multiple buildings with river views and river access.

There are three main mill buildings that will be used for residential purposes. Current plans -- which could and probably will change over the 10-year course of the project -- call for condominiums that will be sold to buyers in two buildings and rental apartments in the third building.

Developers expect between 50 and 60 condominiums, which could range in price from $125,000 to nearly $500,000 per unit.

"We looked at a lot of old mills and old mill buildings," Swift said. "The one thing that we found is there is a trend toward people owning their own units."

Tom Flournoy, president of Flournoy Development Co., said the condominiums will diversify the downtown residential population.

"Part of the reason for doing condominiums is to bring a different element -- a permanent resident," Flournoy said.

And those residents will have a major say in what their home looks like. The plans call for residents to be able to purchase certain square footage, then go in and design the interior -- room sizes and locations. The company is currently arranging focus groups with prospective buyers to discuss the possibilities.

In addition to the condominiums, there is a plan to turn Mill No. 3, the building closest to 12th Street, into an apartment building with up to 100 units. The ground floor space in that building will be marketed as the site of a grocery store.

There are four possible sites for restaurants along the backside of the mill buildings, facing the river. Plans also call for the Chattahoochee Riverwalk to run along the backside of the project. It will create a mixture of public and private access to the property.

Lisa Collins, president of Uptown Columbus Inc., has seen the plans for the mill site and said it will be a "shot in the arm" for continued downtown redevelopment. She expects the project will drive more people back to the central business district.

"The restaurants they are planning will give more people the opportunity to be able to enjoy those views of the river," Collins said.

Historic significance

Before the old mill property was purchased, W.C. Bradley officials began consulting with historical preservationist at Georgia Department of Natural Resources. Ray Luce, director of the department's Historical Preservation Division, has made two visits to the Eagle & Phenix Mill.

"We wanted them on board early," Swift said.

There are a couple of reasons for that.

• The mill, along with other riverfront mills from Bibb City to the Trade Center, are part of the National Historic Landmark. There are only 200 such landmarks in the state.

• The Historical Preservation Division holds the key to federal historic tax credits, which will make the project financially feasible. The project could qualify for millions in income tax breaks if approved.

Luce said the site holds major historical significance.

"You can see the layers of history on that site," Luce said. "It is a terribly important location. It is important to Columbus, it is important to Georgia, it is important to the South and it is important to the United States."

Luce said he is impressed with the plans to preserve and reuse the historically significant structures.

"The thing that is important is they are not trying to do it as a museum," Luce said. "They are going to reuse it, but they are also going to do something that retains the authenticity."

Developers will peel away more than 700,000 square feet of space. Most of that was built in the last 50 years and does not carry historic significance. What it will leave is a historic footprint from the early 1900s as the textile mill was expanding and flourishing.

When demolition is complete later this year, six historic mill structures dating back to the 1860s will be left standing between 13th and 12th streets.

"It will be similar to the 1910 look of the mill," Swift said.

Virginia Peebles, the outgoing executive director of the Historic Columbus Foundation, said the developers have been innovative in their approach to the project.

"They are doing what we have been preaching -- adaptive reuse," Peebles said.

In the 1990s, a riverfront mill was demolished to make way for the TSYS campus. That drew the ire of the state's Historical Preservation Division, though they could do nothing to stop it.

Peebles said by bringing the state officials into the conversation early, some of the problems of the past can be avoided.

"I just think Mat is trying to do the right thing," she said. "Perhaps everybody in Columbus has learned from past experiences."

The partnership

This is not the first time W.C. Bradley and Flournoy Development have formed a partnership for downtown redevelopment. Three years ago, they reworked three 11th Street buildings for 46 loft apartments and restaurant space.

"They did a great job on 11th Street," Swift said of Flournoy Construction Co.

The partnership works for several reasons.

The W.C. Bradley Real Estate Division has developed a number of large projects, including Maple Ridge golf community, Bradley Park and Brookstone Centre, a North Columbus office park. Flournoy Development Co. is one of the nation's largest apartment builders and property managers. The company, which owns its construction company, operates in more than 120 communities across the country.

The partnership between the two homegrown companies makes sense, Flournoy said.

Flournoy Construction Co. will do the construction work, while Flournoy Development Co. has experience in apartment leasing and management. The W.C. Bradley Co. brings riverfront development experience, real estate sales experience and commercial leasing experience to the deal.

"It makes for a good team," Flournoy said.

In addition to working on the redevelopment of the old mill properties, the two companies will also have the opportunity to build new buildings north of the 13th Street bridge. All of the mill buildings, none of which are historic, will be torn down, creating more than a block of wide-open riverfront property.

"It is a blank piece of paper," Flournoy said. "Do we put nice condominiums? Do you back it up with another office like the Synovus Centre? The only reason this is a 10-year program is because you have that blank piece of paper up there."

Swift cautions that plans will change as the project progresses.

"When we started development on Maple Ridge, I had an image in my mind of what it was going to be," Swift said. "Ten years later, it is totally different."

He said look at it this way:

"What we have is a concept of taking the mill back to a look of the early 1900s," he said. "But that is what it is, a concept."
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And Finally Some Images . . .

Forgive the size, still can't figure how to do thumbnails . . .

Broadway Street


Singer Opera House


Golden Park


Rivercenter


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Old March 29th, 2005, 04:11 PM   #70
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Mattsal -- outstanding! Thanks for sharing. Keep em coming!
I am envious, and wish I had the talent for taking great shots.

1. Picture of building on Broadway is of Rankin Art Center (notice the sign under iron balcony). An old 1870's hotel with a courtyard and now
beautifully restored inside to Victorian elegance. Used for art/dance/etc classes and as dorm for college students. Most of Broadway on both sides has wonderful old buildings that have been or could be restored to this level. Broadway is being relandscaped block by block, and hopefully the as yet unrestored buildings will be returned to former glory.

2. Springer Opera House has been redone and is awesome. It is small but a real jewel. Also I recommend the bar -- though not sure whether it is open only for performances. Dont miss a chance to catch a play there.

3. In my opiniion, Rivercenter is much more impressive on inside than out. All the venues are terrific and I especially like the organ hall. When that thing gets cranked up it is heavenly

4. I think the "Civic Center" is, instead, the campus of TSYS. The Civic Center is further down river, past Golden Park and near the new Civil War Naval Museum. The TYSY campus is on the site of an old mill, and a beautiful old antebellum estate called the Mott House which has been restored on the outside but not inside.

5. The museum is pretty impressive. The permanent collection is extensive and I have seen some very interesting travelling shows there as well. Also the grounds-- though not extensive -- are well maintained and quite nice for strolling. The whole Wynnton area is charming and includes antebellum mansions and bungalows, including the childhood home of Carson McCullars (Heart is A Lonely Hunter, etc) which is now a house museum and workshop for visiting literary figures.

One of my favorite buidlings which is in sore need of restoration is the Empire building at 1st Ave and 12th St. It would make a wonderful condo. Any one who has a shot of it should post it. I also like the small building in 11th St between Ist and Bradway that houses the Tavern restaurant. the detain on that building is incredible! I hear that, in addition to recently announced Eagle & Phenix project previously noted here, an Atlanta developer has bought the old Jordan Mills on 12th Ave and Talbotton Rd with plans to make it into apartment complex designed for residents 55+ yrs, ie, empty nesters. It is an interesting building -- all brick and lots of windows, as is common in Columbus -- and should make for a beautiful complex when done. What is interesting is that this development is directly across from the old Peabody Apts, which have been razed and a new townhouse mixed use development is giong up there. These developments are only a few blocks from the Medical Center and growing concentration of medical offices, which probably explains the 55+ target group. That Medical Center area abuts the East Highland/Waverly Terrace are which I think is probably giong to become the newest urban pioneer area for residential restoration/redevelopment.

Finally, the annual Riverfest Festival is scheduled for the third weekend in April, and April 23 plans include a great evening outdoor concert on teh banks of teh river along teh Riverwalk and fireworks. Assuming teh weather is nice, anyone who can should come, as I think you would have a great time!
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You don't seriously think I took all of those pictures, do you?

Um . . . thanks anyways. I've never even been to Columbus.
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Old April 12th, 2005, 04:09 AM   #72
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Here is an interesting article from the AJC about Ft. Benning's population boom and what it means to Columbus.

'A business blessing'

By RON MARTZ
The Atlanta Journal-Constitution
Published on: 04/10/05

Columbus — From his office on the east side of I-185, Rob Doll can't quite see the future of this city, but he knows where it is.

The future is just a few miles away, at the southern end of the interstate highway at Fort Benning, one of the Army's key training facilities and the economic engine that drives the region.

Across the country, many communities are breaking out in a cold sweat over the prospect that their bases may show up on the Pentagon's chopping block in little more than six weeks.

But this post, which calls itself "Home of the Infantry" is about to grow. And as Fort Benning grows, so too will Columbus, Phenix City, Ala., and other nearby communities in west-central Georgia and eastern Alabama.

"It's a blessing, a business blessing," said Doll, owner of Rob Doll Nissan and an Army veteran of Vietnam.

Over the next 18 months, 5,400 additional soldiers will be permanently based here.

The majority, about 3,500, will be from the 5th Brigade of the 25th Infantry Division.

The others will be added to a variety of units, including about 900 more trainers. That will push the base's military population to more than 40,000.

The population of Columbus-Phenix City, including the new soldiers and their families, is expected to jump by more than 15,000, said Mayo "Biff" Hadden III, senior vice president of the Columbus Chamber of Commerce.

"It's a great economic shot in the arm," said Hadden.

But with that economic boom will come crowded schools — especially in Muscogee County — a housing pinch, increased traffic and a strain on child care services.

Those anticipated problems could get even worse if Fort Benning adds military personnel from other installations in Europe and throughout the United States as a result of this year's round of Pentagon-mandated base closings. The list of recommended closures will be made public on May 16.

Hadden is spearheading the region's efforts to prepare for the growth and head off potential problems through a coalition of community leaders known as the Fort Benning Futures Partnership.

The cooperation here has been cited by one national organization as a model for other communities where military bases might grow.

"What they have done is create a pretty useful model for other communities dealing with expansion," said Tim Ford, executive director of the Association of Defense Communities, which works with military communities on base closures and expansion.

Influx in Savannah, too

Fort Stewart, home of the 3rd Infantry Division (Mechanized), near Savannah, is facing similar growth problems, though not of the same magnitude as Fort Benning's.

Billy Edwards, the city manager for Hinesville, said the division grew from 18,000 to 22,000 soldiers between spring and summer last year as it added a fourth combat brigade. By the time the unit left for Iraq in January, it had 24,000 soldiers.

Many of the soldiers did not bring their families, Edwards said.

But when the unit returns from Iraq early next year, the families are expected to move, increasing the population of Hinesville and surrounding communities and counties by at least 8,000.

That means more housing, more schools and more child care, just like Columbus. A joint land-use study is being conducted, and housing surveys are under way that are expected to present several scenarios for planners to consider to handle the growth.

"We're guardedly optimistic we'll see growth as opposed to diminution," Edwards said. "But you have to be prepared, and we're planning our infrastructure to handle that growth."

At Fort Benning, deputy garrison commander Chuck Walls said he would welcome even more growth.

"We're standing up with our arms open saying we've got space. We've got 184,000 acres here, and you'll never get that kind of acreage again," said Walls.

Fort Benning has become the single source of training for the Army's infantry. Last year, about 15,000 infantry soldiers trained at the post. This year that number will jump to 25,000, said Walls. Over the next three years, a total of 23,000 additional infantry trainees will be added to the Army to meet demands in Iraq and Afghanistan.

All will come through Fort Benning. And while the trainees have little impact on the local economy, those needed to train them do.

The trainers are usually senior enlisted, many of them married with children.

Walls said no new housing will be added to the 4,000 units already on-base, which means most of the new soldiers will have to find places to live off-post.

"We now [build] about 450 spec homes a year. We've got to get that to over 1,000 spec homes a year for the next two years," said the chamber of commerce's Hadden.

In addition, Hadden said, it is estimated that 1,600 more apartment units will be needed to accommodate the new troops and their families.

One of the keys to the construction is managing it in a way that it does not encroach on the base or its missions, said Hadden.

A joint land-use study is now in the works that will provide recommendations for long-term growth around the base, he added.

The additional recruits and the new brigade will be housed on-base in modular facilities. The brigade will eventually get about $400 million worth of permanent structures, but that will be over a 10-year period.

School crunch on way

Local schools will feel a crunch for the next few years as the new students hit town with their soldier parents. But until the houses and apartments are built, the school systems will not know where new schools will be needed, so temporary classrooms are being planned.

Officials here say Muscogee County is likely to be hit hardest by the influx of new students.

Robin Pennock, deputy superintendent for the Muscogee County School District, said her system could receive as many as 3,800 of the 4,700 new students. That would be more than 10 percent growth in 18 months.

"We are very excited and positive about this, but we do face some challenges," said Pennock.

Among those challenges are not knowing where the children will live or what grades they will be in. And that means school officials do not know how many more teachers in any particular grade will be needed.

Pennock said a rough estimate of the cost for additional teachers, portable classrooms, textbooks and other school supplies "could be well in excess of $25 million," about $15 million of which would come from state funds.

"We know we can handle the housing, and we are comfortable we can handle the education piece, although it will take us about three years to bring it fully online. If we do this right, we come out the winner and soldiers come out the winner," said Hadden.

The new brigade originally was scheduled to get to Fort Benning this September. Instead, it will now be next September.

The extra time, said Hadden, will enable area officials to more carefully plan for a complex situation that will have a major social and economic impact on the region.
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Anyone have a prediction of which military bases in GA will be affected by BRAC?
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I've heard about Columbus. It's coming up in the ranks. In my paper back in Tallahassee, it gives a little information on Columbus' job market. It also states how a lot of big corporations have migrated there, gives statistical info on the metro area as a whole.
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Old May 7th, 2005, 03:19 AM   #75
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Don't know much about Columbus, GA...never been there....I know this much, though... http://www.cnn.com/2005/EDUCATION/05....ap/index.html
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Here are some great pictures of some of the highrises and new developments around Columbus. I am still figuring out how to post stuff. I am using imageshack.com to post pictures. If anyone could tell me how to post pictures without having to click on the links it would be greatly appreciated.

1) AFLAC Worldwide HQ (20 floors)
http://img1.echo.cx/my.php?image=corpoverviewhq8ox.jpg

2) Amos Cancer Center
http://img1.echo.cx/my.php?image=can...xterior7uh.jpg

3) Columbus State University's new downtown campus (enrollment 7,500)
http://img1.echo.cx/my.php?image=csuuptown47ca.jpg

4) Columbus State University's new downtown campus
http://img1.echo.cx/my.php?image=csuuptown23lo.jpg

5) New building at Columbus State University's main campus
http://img1.echo.cx/my.php?image=cun...erlarge5fn.jpg

6) Government Center building downtown (14 floors)
http://img1.echo.cx/my.php?image=gov...ersmall7gc.jpg

7) Convention Center expansion
http://img1.echo.cx/my.php?image=renovationpic37qj.jpg

8) New Synovus HQ building along the Columbus riverwalk
http://img1.echo.cx/my.php?image=synovus4bw.jpg

9) TSYS HQ in downtown
http://img1.echo.cx/my.php?image=tsys3hb.jpg

10) Columbus Civic Center aerial
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11) Shot of Synovus and soon to be converted mill into condos, retail, lofts
http://img1.echo.cx/my.php?image=downtown0fx.jpg

12) New Columbus Library in midtown
http://img1.echo.cx/my.php?image=library5vp.jpg

13) Columbus Regional Medical Center near dowtown
http://img1.echo.cx/my.php?image=medicalcenter23ey.jpg

14) New RiverCenter for the Performing Arts downtown
http://img1.echo.cx/my.php?image=rivercenter2qs.jpg

15) Inside the RiverCenter
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Hope you enjoyed it! Some of the pictures are kind of small. Ill work on making them better. If you would like me to post more please tell me!

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Columbus will now add an additional 25,000 news residents to the metro area over the next 2 years because of Ft. Benning's expansion. This is a lot more than the expected 10,000-15,000. Columbus is truly exploding with economic growth.
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If you want Columbus/Phenix City to grow and succeed, you tell your City leaders, State representatives, and local business leaders, you want to see more transportation connections to your city, including more Interstate construction....
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If you want Columbus/Phenix City to grow and succeed, you tell your City leaders, State representatives, and local business leaders, you want to see more transportation connections to your city, including more Interstate construction....
I don't live there anymore, but I do go down to work in the city often. I agree that Columbus does need better transportation connections. A new interstate has been proposed called I-14. I am sure that it will get built. This new highway would benefit Columbus a lot.
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I don't live there anymore, but I do go down to work in the city often. I agree that Columbus does need better transportation connections. A new interstate has been proposed called I-14. I am sure that it will get built. This new highway would benefit Columbus a lot.
Any idea about timeframe/route? Could I-14 take the form of upgrading
FallLine Freeway to Interstate specs? That, to me, seems like the expediant thing to do. Then, a short connection from Columbus west to tie into I 85 South and you're done. Likewise, US 27 south from Chattanooga could be similarly upgraded to interstate specs to tie into I-185, and then US 27 south from Columbus upgraded to tie into I 10 in Fla.

If these two projects were done, then Columbus would have interstate connections to Atlantic (new I-14 to Macon, then existing I-16 to Savannah), Gulf (new US 27 South), to midwest (new US 27 North),to Atlanta (existing I-185), and Montgomery and points west (I-14 to existing I-85).

Though this may seem ambitious, it would be a quick and relatively cheap way to achieve a pretty significant impact. No need to acquire (much) additional rights-of-way, relieves Atlanta from some of the FLA-bound traffic coming from midwest, enhances west GA/east ALA for development, etc. I think that Columbus should use BRAC to leverage state/feds into up grades of roads. After all, national defense was justification for the interstate system.
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