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Old April 28th, 2015, 06:14 AM   #21
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Cladding spread $5m Melbourne apartment fire: report
Read more at http://www.9news.com.au/national/201...drPmxOiw0vG.99
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Old April 30th, 2015, 02:15 PM   #22
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I didn't think of aluminium as a very flammable material at all.
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Old April 30th, 2015, 03:01 PM   #23
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It's not just aluminium by itself, it's a composite cladding material. The stuff in between the aluminium sheets if flammable.


You see this ugly and dangerous material on so many new buildings in East Europe as well.
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Old May 4th, 2015, 09:40 PM   #24
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yeah at some point a big tower is going to go up and thousands will die. cell phone videos of people jumping to their deaths . maybe then it will be fixed/not allowed to be used.

the "tallest block" in dubai could be a hellscape with a fire and a strong wind storm. they were lucky with the torch it didnt get to other buildings.
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Old May 20th, 2015, 10:09 AM   #25
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Building fire kills 16, injures at least 50 in Azerbaijan



Authorities blamed the fire-prone exteriors as it was the second case of a residential building bursting into flames.

The quick spread of flames was due to ‘low-quality’ flammable cladding used, said the prosecutor general at the scene.

http://www.miragenews.com/building-f...in-azerbaijan/

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Old May 20th, 2015, 10:16 AM   #26
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Mermoz building in Roubaix, France. Seven people died in an 18-storey apartment complex in Roubaix, clad in aluminium facade It may have started accidentally, possibly from some work being carried out on the building facade at first or second floor level. Footage filmed from neighbouring building records the dramatic upwards spread of the fire from its origin to the top of the 18-floor building, apparently fuelled by its highly flammable outer cladding.
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Old May 20th, 2015, 10:31 AM   #27
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WOOSHIN GOLDEN SUITES





The outer wall of the Wooshin complex was decorated with polyethylene panels covered with aluminum and used polystyrene for heat insulation ㅡ both materials that are vulnerable to fire.

However, there are no regulations governing the materials used in covering exteriors.

http://www.liveleak.com/view?i=aa0_1285945712
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Old May 20th, 2015, 10:40 AM   #28
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The Water Club Tower, Atlantic City



The fire at the Water Club Tower. The debris in the air is the aluminum cladding on the exterior siding



Fire raced up 38 stories on the face of the building.


Debris blocked fire apparatus on the roads approaching the fire scene.



http://www.fireengineering.com/artic...ity-fires.html
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Old May 20th, 2015, 11:56 AM   #29
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Wow, this is really bad. This stuff needs to be banned.
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Old May 20th, 2015, 12:55 PM   #30
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Wow, this is really bad. This stuff needs to be banned.

CSIRO scientists in Australia tested this building material. And the cheaply imported aluminium cladding from Melbourne’s fire-damaged Lacrosse tower was so flammable they had to abandon combustibility tests after only 93 seconds to avoid damaging their equipment


A CSIRO report obtained by The Australian reveals that the sub-standard Alucobest cladding — suspected of also having been used in thousands of buildings nation*wide and linked with fires in large buildings around the world — sustained extensive “flaming” after 55 seconds and had to be extinguished after 93 seconds because of “excessive flaming and smoking”.
“The single sample failed the sustained flaming clause in the first minute of the test,” said the report by the CSIRO group leader of fire safety engineering Alex Webb. “The test was terminated soon after, and prior to (the required) 30 minutes, to prevent damage to our equipment.”
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Old May 20th, 2015, 01:53 PM   #31
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Grozny city tower builders used cheap facade-facing composite material consisting of aluminium panels and polymer sheets, like Alucobond, or similar decoration systems
Dude, Alucobond is a non-flamable or hardly-flamable compisite. What you mean is Alucobest and has nothing to with Alucobond or Alucore
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Dude, Alucobond is a non-flamable or hardly-flamable compisite. What you mean is Alucobest and has nothing to with Alucobond or Alucore
I believe they are all the same products but with different names. But I could be incorrect.
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Inspectors consider three versions of fire in "Grozny City"

The version that the fire of a skyscraper in the territory of "Grozny City" was caused by carelessness is the inspectors' priority. They also study the version of an arson and non-compliance of the building with fire safety requirements.

According to one of them, the fire could occur because of the actions of the workers, who used welding equipment in the fourth and fifth floors.

According to the "Caucasian Knot", in Chechnya, both at reconstruction of many houses and in building new ones, including the "Olymp" tower, builders make use of cheap facade-facing composite material consisting of aluminium panels and polymer sheets, like Alucobond, or similar decoration systems. These panels are not only fire-hazardous and difficult to extinguish, but also emit toxic gas when burned. Therefore, in some countries, they are forbidden for use.

http://eng.kavkaz-uzel.ru/articles/23561/
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I believe they are all the same products but with different names. But I could be incorrect.
No they are not the same products. One is a premium product and the other one seems to be a cheap remake.

I remcomend you to visit the sites of the two companies to see what i mean.
I myself have some projects where i take use of Alucobond because they are non flamable and not even "cheap". In fact, Alucobond is pretty expensive! Believe me, i wouldnt be allowed to use them in Germany without proof they do their job as promised
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Another fire in Dubai, thanks to this cladding:
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I hope Petronas Twin Towers cladding wont burn so easily
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Petronas Towers' cladding is stainless steel
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I think we have another victim of Alucobond fire

Grenfell Tower, London. New cladding was added in 2016.





You can see how the cladding is feeding the fire
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I didn't think of aluminium as a very flammable material at all.
I don't think it is at room temperature, but it burns strongly at higher temperatures. Aluminium is added to propellants because it has a a strong exothermic reaction with oxygen.

I have no expertise here, but it seems to me that flammable linings/insulators might be raising the temperature so the aluminium ignites.
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