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Old November 25th, 2015, 11:31 PM   #61
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Aren't all these cars on the left parked on pedestrian area?
What is police doing about that?
I don't understand these things. Why doesn't it work in some cities or even countries? Checking the correct parking of cars is something that can be done cost neutral, it may be even yielding some surplus. And once its checked properly people won't ignore it anymore as they can expect a hefty fine. And in severe cases, like parking on a sidewalk or in a pedestrian zone, cars can also be moved to some parking lot with an even heftier fine if the car driver wants to have his car back.

So what's the poblem?
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Old November 25th, 2015, 11:32 PM   #62
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Aren't all these cars on the left parked on pedestrian area?
What is police doing about that?
I don't understand these things. Why doesn't it work in some cities or even countries? Checking the correct parking of cars is something that can be done cost neutral, it may be even yielding some surplus. And once its checked properly people won't ignore it anymore as they can expect a hefty fine. And in severe cases, like parking on a sidewalk or in a pedestrian zone, cars can also be moved to some parking lot with an even heftier fine if the car driver wants to have his car back.

So what's the poblem? Please don't tell me that it is actually allowed to park there.
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Old November 25th, 2015, 11:33 PM   #63
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Is the new PESA tram air-conditioned?
Yes, it is (and the whole order of 22 is getting A/C)
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Old November 26th, 2015, 10:56 PM   #64
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Well, are any cars incorrectly parked at all?

If you look at the picture rather close to the camera, just right to the "end of cycle lane" sign you clearly see some kind of road connecting the area where the cars are parked to the lane to the right near the camera with seven cars. There is no reasonable explanation for that connection unless you are supposed to drive a car, lorry or similar from the area with the parked car to the lane with the driving cars.

It could also be that the area with the parked cars are intended as a kiss-and-ride area or a taxi area, but with all construction work going on it is used as a parking place until some kind of permanent parking space outside of the cameras view is ready.
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Old November 27th, 2015, 05:41 PM   #65
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Pesa tram in Lodz - one of the new 22 (?) trams started running in the city center,
Not yet started, this is still a test, but in a short time it should start. The second of them is just about to come. The third and the fourth one are also ready (at least according to what people are writing in the manufacturer's thread in the Polish section of SSC). From 005 to 011 are under construction, from 012 to 022 - the construction hasn't started yet. A crazy thing here is that theoretically all of them have to come to Łódź before 2015, December 31st to ensure the EU funding

Also 40 new Solaris Urbino buses (20 single, 20 articulated ones) are currently coming to Łódź from the manufacturer.

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Aren't all these cars on the left parked on pedestrian area?
This is a parking lot symultaneously - oficially. You can see a parking ticket machine there.

Interestingly, there is a publically accessible big underground parking space directly under the buildings visible at the left edge of the picture - but people tend to avoid it since it's much more expensive. Apart from the situation when you are going to watch a movie in a cinema located in one of these buildings (the other institutions are a hotel and a bank), with a cinema ticket the parking is free of charge for a few hours, but many people don't know about it, it's almost not advertised at all.

But regardless of that, the parking in illegal places is a real problem in Łódź. In Piotrkowska street (the main shopping/entertainment street, which is something like a pedestrian area) there is a problem with illegally parking taxi drivers. They are allowed to parked there only within a limited time, to wait for the customer who ordered the given cab, but at night they often treat the street as a taxi rank. The result are difficult to remove oil spots on the new street surface made of granite bricks.

People and NGOs are trying to point out the problem, but until now the only what the authorities were doing, were "show" actions, when the municipal police ("straż miejska" - funded by the city, their priviliges are somehow limited with respect to the state-funded "policja", but illegal parking is one of the issues they are supposed to be dealing with) was really fighting with them, but for only on one night or one weekend, and after that the previous situation every time returned. Recently, I have read that something began to change. We need to observe the situation.

Penalization of illegally parking drivers is something what is done in Łódź - usually not by taking a car to a police parking lot (it happenes only in the worst situations, like when someone blocks trams by wrong parking), but by installing a lock on a car wheel, which is also painful for the driver (he needs to wait for the police to come and to remove the lock). But what is done is not enough.

And there exist some strange cases like this street: https://goo.gl/maps/HndE43UiRC32

It's located in the neighbourhood of one of the two main universities in the city. In this photo it's empty, because it was taken in the holdays time. But normally, during the academic year, there is a lot of cars parked in this street, exactly behind this "parking prohibited" sign. And noone is doing anything with that.

What is more, noone is paying there for the parking, although this street is located within the paid parking zone (people are thinking that when there is no ticket machine, they are not obliged to pay - which is theoretically not true). And noone gets a fine ticket for that. Neither for illegal parking, nor for not paying.

The reason behind that seems to be the sign unter the one which prohibits parking: "Internal street, belongs to the municipal office". It's oficially not a public street (even though it's open to anyone and belongs to the city). And normally the highway code doesn't hold in such places, exactly like it doesn't hold on a backyard of any private house. But there are two exceptions from that in the Polish law. The first one is the case when breaking the highway code leads to a life danger, the second one is when there are road signs. And here we have a road sign...



An article from before about an our - just on time for the discussion
http://www.expressilustrowany.pl/art...daty,id,t.html
It's a local tabloid paper, but they are usually the fastest of all the local papers with any "tiny" informations, and this seems to be just an informative article.

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Police hunt on taxi drivers - a lot of them fined

Twenty seven fines, up to 500 zł (about 120 euro), was given today by the police on the taxi drivers in Piotrkowska street - Marzanna Boratyńska from the road traffic department of the police headquarters in Łódź informs.



The police controlled 49 taxis. They checked, for example, documents needed to perform the taxi driver job (licence, homologation of the devices, medical examinations). They controlled also the technical condition of the cars. Three of them were in such a bad state that they confiscated their registration certificates. The action began at 7 AM. It lasted 8 hours. The police announced, that there will be more such actions conducted in the following time.
But it was during the day and the problem is mainly at night... As it can be seen in the photo.

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Old December 8th, 2015, 02:44 PM   #66
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Old December 10th, 2015, 10:09 PM   #67
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Old December 12th, 2015, 01:09 AM   #68
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Still the foundation of public transport in many Polish cities. Especially in Łódź.

But the tracks in Narutowicza street are renovated and they look really good
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Old December 24th, 2015, 03:16 AM   #69
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New Pesa trams in Łódź





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Old February 26th, 2016, 09:32 PM   #70
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More on new Lodz Fabryczna:

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Lodz station

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Old March 6th, 2016, 07:38 PM   #71
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Stable for unicorns:



This nickname has probably first appeared on SSC, and it's now used by all the local media (only one local tabloid wanted to create its own name, but they didn't rather succeed in that) and by the people living in the city.
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Old March 14th, 2016, 04:43 AM   #72
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Łódź Fabryczna and Kilińskiego street:

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POW street - fragment of a new tram line to the station:

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13. a tu P.O.W. ogrodzili nieprzebudowany dotąd fragment przy skrzyżowaniu ze Składową


14. prace przy przedłużeniu torowiska


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Old May 5th, 2016, 09:31 PM   #73
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A city bike system has started its operation.
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Old June 1st, 2016, 08:38 AM   #74
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Taken from Polish railways thread:

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Łódź Fabryczna from July 9th, A.D. 2016:
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How will the tram track layout work?

It seems like trams from the lower right in the picture can't go to upper left, but every other direction is possible. Why?
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Some moderator should change this thread title. In Polish language we use these specific letters which are for example "Ł", "Ó" and "Ź". To express some emotion or name things as they really mean something, you have to use these symbols, because there is no city called "Lodz". That is an example.
So moderator, please change the title of this thread to: "ŁÓDŹ | Public Transport".
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It looks like all the other cities in this forum don't have language-specific characters, so it's not such a problem.
And adding them will not help the foreigners know how to pronounce this name

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How will the tram track layout work?

It seems like trams from the lower right in the picture can't go to upper left, but every other direction is possible. Why?
Well... The city decided to do it in the most stupid way possible. They are building tracks not knowing yet,
how the tram network will look like after opening this new small piece of the network.

See:



The green lines is the current tram network, red are the tracks currently being built, and blue are the tracks
that are going to be built in the near future (within a few years; I am not sure about the correctness of the
connection with the red part).

It seems that there is no line planned, which would turn right from the Kilińskiego street (the middle vertical green line)
to the southern side of the park and then left along the park.

The opposite direction will be still useful, because thanks to it, a tram coming along the Kilińskiego street from the south,
in an emergency situation, will still be able to make a loop around the park and turn back.
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It looks like all the other cities in this forum don't have language-specific characters, so it's not such a problem.
And adding them will not help the foreigners know how to pronounce this name
Unless it has internationally-recongnised writing and pronunciation
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