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Old March 22nd, 2015, 09:39 PM   #41
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Old March 24th, 2015, 11:00 AM   #42
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GO has absolutely no interest in getting involved with international travel. It's way beyond it's mandate.
If regional rail is its mandate Buffalo very much should be part of their mandate. GO is really still in its infancy and the Golden Horseshoe footprint is obviously the priority. Once it's properly built out the 1.3 million people on the US side needs addressing.

I doubt people here will dismiss the idea of crossing an international border simply because the Portuguese and Spanish haven't done it yet. If it makes economic sense (and it will eventually) it will get done.

It's difficult for people in a post 9-11 world to think that way (lately we've been going in the opposite direction), but money is what usually prevails. Yes it would be complicated in terms of pre-clearance but I'm sure we can come up with 1-2 smart people to figure it out.
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Old March 24th, 2015, 11:38 AM   #43
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I really do hope this building gets built, it looks magnificent
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Old March 30th, 2015, 04:16 AM   #44
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There was an artist's conception of the base yesterday in the Globe and Mail - last page of section one. Did anyone see that? The exoskeleton diamonds come together at the bottom - quite a bold design - and maybe a little dangerous?


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That's a lot of building resting on a few small areas - aren't they worried about bombs, or an accidental vehicle crash into the base?
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That's a lot of building resting on a few small areas - aren't they worried about bombs, or an accidental vehicle crash into the base?
Interesting thought.

I'm sure the building could withstand a few car crashes to that base before it being in danger. As for bombs? I guess any landmark is susceptible to that to threat. I'm sure engineers have to consider stuff like that in designing these days.

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Old March 31st, 2015, 12:29 AM   #46
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Interesting thought.

I'm sure the building could withstand a few car crashes to that base before it being in danger. As for bombs? I guess any landmark is susceptible to that to threat. I'm sure engineers have to consider stuff like that in designing these days.

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Yes, I love the design. The render isn't very realistic though - where are all the traffic signal lights and poles, for example?
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Renderings typically take artistic license to highlight the building and omit things that aren't part of the design. As long as the rendering of the building itself is representative I'm fine with it. Regarding having the supports standing alone like that it won't make it any less safe than other buildings. All buildings have similar supporting columns. The only difference here is that you can see them.
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This will look so good. It should look very imposing from the base.
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Old April 2nd, 2015, 07:38 PM   #49
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The design and Toronto were made for each other. This one can't happen soon enough. I'm hoping the diagrid Oxford twins (325m each) re-surface soon as they suited Toronto as well.
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Renderings typically take artistic license to highlight the building and omit things that aren't part of the design. As long as the rendering of the building itself is representative I'm fine with it. Regarding having the supports standing alone like that it won't make it any less safe than other buildings. All buildings have similar supporting columns. The only difference here is that you can see them.

Hmm... The exoskeleton for those whole two sides of the building that we see in the render comes to rest on just three points at ground level. That seems unduly risky to me.
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This being a luxury building I'm under the impression that a diagrid was chosen so that there be no interior columns. So likely 6 load bearing points in total, the 3 you can see on these 2 sides and another 3 on the other 2 sides.

Skyscrapers are tested by civil engineers to be extremely strong and structurally sound. They undergo tests of every kind imaginable. I only have 1.5 years of engineering (studied many years ago) but can tell from that photo that load coming down that corner gets diverted down each diagonal post and shared by those 2 points on the ground that emanate from it.

I'm not sure what the standards are today but I suspect 1-2 of those posts could fail and the building is still designed to stay up. And due to the importance of each they're going to be built well. Taking one out wouldn't be as easy as some think. I bet you could drive a Brinks truck at it at 60km/h and next to nothing would happen to it. The column that is.
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Old April 3rd, 2015, 06:33 PM   #52
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Don't forget about the Citicorp Tower in NY that only has 4 perimeter columns and the core at ground level.


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This being a luxury building I'm under the impression that a diagrid was chosen so that there be no interior columns. So likely 6 load bearing points in total, the 3 you can see on these 2 sides and another 3 on the other 2 sides.
Plus potentially more hidden in the 8-story attached building. It's really part of the same building, so part of the load could be there.
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There is a large interior atrium between the podium building and the main tower, which means the podium would be self supported. All the load from the tower will go straight down on the exterior columns.
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Old May 19th, 2015, 10:57 PM   #56
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Reminds me Willis Tower in Chicago.
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Old May 19th, 2015, 11:21 PM   #57
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really hate the name though.
i hate name like "the blank", where blank is a very common noun.
it just makes you look like a ****.
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I prefer the older design
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