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Old September 17th, 2016, 07:22 AM   #81
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Pudong and the Bund are way less interesting than the French Concession. The Bund is one giant tourist trap, and Pudong (Lujiazui, really) is just a CBD. If those are the only areas that you found impressive in SH, you missed the entire heart of the city.

Better luck next time, I guess.
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Old September 21st, 2016, 12:22 PM   #82
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Old December 6th, 2016, 01:13 AM   #83
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Old February 16th, 2017, 02:16 AM   #84
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Old February 16th, 2017, 07:53 PM   #85
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Lujiazui is my favorite part of the skyline (and the tallest), but it's only one small part of it.
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Old March 15th, 2017, 07:55 AM   #86
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Old March 16th, 2017, 05:14 PM   #88
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Quite True

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I have also heard from other people that Shanghai isn't really impressive outside Pudong and Bund.
Quite true. I have also heard from other people that New York City isn't really impressive outside of Manhattan. For the matter too, Chicago outside of the loop and Magnificent Mile.

Just saying. :-)
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Old March 23rd, 2017, 12:31 AM   #89
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Outside pudong and the bund, i saw alot highrises, not really wow but not as flat as outside manhattan
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Old April 19th, 2017, 01:23 AM   #90
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okay the latest stats:

http://www.stats-sh.gov.cn/tjnj/nje1...jnje/E1104.htm



Shanghai has at the very least 16,952 highrises (though with the possibility of double that). A highrise is defined as 12 storeys or higher.
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Old April 20th, 2017, 01:07 PM   #91
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Outside pudong and the bund, i saw alot highrises, not really wow but not as flat as outside manhattan
Pudong itself is a HUGE part of the Shanghai metro, what we usually mean with "Pudong" here is the skyline in the Lujiazui area.

So the more interesting question here would be to analyse, are the highrise areas in Pudong/Lujiazui and on the other side of the river comparable with the area that the highrises cover in Manhattan and both places are more or less relativly flat outside this area, or does one of the two places cover more areas with highrises.

People also forget how dense the areas in the upper east and upper west side of Manhattan are, even some areas north of Central Park are dense and filled with highrises.

Manhattan is heavily underrated in size, density and magnitute. While other places can be heavily overrated and not properly looked at.
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Old April 20th, 2017, 02:28 PM   #92
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Manhattan is heavily underrated in size, density and magnitute. While other places can be heavily overrated and not properly looked at.


OMG, how sarcastic is that!
Oh, and one spelling mistake, "magnitudddddddde" pls.
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Old April 20th, 2017, 07:54 PM   #93
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For me, the problem of Shanghai is that 99% of the land is limited to 100 metres / ~33 floors. It may have thousands of buildings over 20 floors, but residential buildings over this height, there are only around 15, even some european cities beat this, like Benidorm.
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Old April 20th, 2017, 08:23 PM   #94
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For me, the problem of Shanghai is that 99% of the land is limited to 100 metres / ~33 floors. It may have thousands of buildings over 20 floors, but residential buildings over this height, there are only around 15, even some european cities beat this, like Benidorm.
Where on earth are you getting these stats from?

1. From what I can make out in the latest stats, 11% of all large buildings in SH are over 30 stories.

2. Also using 100m as a cut-off point, we'd still be talking about 1,500 residential highrises above that threshold, not 15. And beating Benidorm by a hundred to one.

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Pudong itself is a HUGE part of the Shanghai metro, what we usually mean with "Pudong" here is the skyline in the Lujiazui area.

So the more interesting question here would be to analyse, are the highrise areas in Pudong/Lujiazui and on the other side of the river comparable with the area that the highrises cover in Manhattan and both places are more or less relativly flat outside this area, or does one of the two places cover more areas with highrises.

People also forget how dense the areas in the upper east and upper west side of Manhattan are, even some areas north of Central Park are dense and filled with highrises.

Manhattan is heavily underrated in size, density and magnitute. While other places can be heavily overrated and not properly looked at.
Germantower, the vast majority of highrises and skyscrapers are on the Puxi side of the river, not the still-terraforming Pudong side. They also extend far beyond the city centre - SH lacks lowrise suburbia, instead it has highrises - a necessity to house up to 3000 newcomers a day.


Shanghai's Puxi half. The small thicket at top right, on the peninsular bend in the river, occupies the traditional 'panoramic' of Shanghai's 'skyline' despite missing the vast majority out:

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Manhattan to the same scale





Just a reminder, NYC has about 6,250 highrises and SH - with a stricter, higher threshold, still has >16,000. NYC though has more skyscrapers (150m+), nearly double - 150 in SH to 270 in NYC.

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The Pudong half is far less highrise due to it still being terraformed and colonised into urbanity (it was rice fields and industry until the 1990s), but still has plenty of highrises, though far less than the opposite side of the river. For scale the area in red (Lujiazui) is half the area of Manhattan. This new area still being built has a density significantly lower than the rest of the city - but is still 22,000 per sq km (Manhattan is 26,000 per sq km).

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Here's a Mapfrappe of Manhattan under 110th st (Central Park North) overlaid over Shanghai to the same scale










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Old April 20th, 2017, 10:08 PM   #99
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This post perfectly illustrates why i have said that Manhattan is heavily underrated. Thanks for that streetscapeer.
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Guys that perfectly illustrates how much further the SH highrises go out to. Note the scale of the Pudong (Lujiazui) peninsular at top right, with the map:

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Plus bear in mind that SH aerial only shows less than half the city
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