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Old June 17th, 2015, 10:50 PM   #141
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Old June 17th, 2015, 11:03 PM   #142
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what about tower 2? most attractive proposal anyway.
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I have not noticed, that Tower 2 is missing.
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Old June 21st, 2015, 02:42 PM   #143
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The defense now totals 5100m of skyscraper
This figure should rise to 7069m if all projects present mipim come true
( I did not count the constructions of less than 100m , even those that make 99)

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Old June 21st, 2015, 04:47 PM   #144
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Status: Completed

1. The Shard | 309m
2. One Canada Square | 235m
3. 110 Bishopsgate | 230m
4. The Leadenhall Building | 225m
5. 8 Canada Square | 200m
6. 25 Canada Square | 200m
7. Tower 42 | 183m
8. St George Wharf Tower | 181m
9. 30 St Mary Axe | 180m
10. Broadgate Tower | 164m
11. 20 Fenchurch Street | 160m
12. One Churchill Place | 156m
13. 25 Bank Street | 153m
14. 40 Bank Street | 153m
15. 10 Upper Bank Street | 151m
16. Guy's Tower | 149m
17. Pan Peninsula East | 147m
18. Strata | 147m
19. 22 Marsh Wall East Tower | 140m
20. Stratford Halo | 133m
21. CityPoint | 127m
22. Willis Building | 125m
23. Euston Tower | 124m
24. 25 Churchill Place | 124m
25. Cromwell Tower | 123m
26. Laudedale Tower | 123m
27. Shakespeare Tower | 123m
28. Pan Peninsula West Tower | 122m
29. Millbank Tower | 119m
30. St. Helen's | 118m
31. Centre Point | 117m
32. Empress State Building | 117m
33. The Heron | 112m
34. One West India Quay | 111m
35. Shell Centre | 107m
36. 33 Canada Square | 105m
37. 100 Middlesex Street | 105m
38. Pioneer Point North | 105m
39. 99 Bishopsgate | 104m
40. Ontario Tower | 104m
41. Portland House | 101m
42. London Hilton On Park Lane | 101m
43. Royal London Hospital Tower 2 | 101m
44. 125 Old Broad Street Tower | 100m
45. Urbanest King's Cross | 100m




Status: U/C - T/O

1. One Nine Elms Tower 1 | 200m | U/C
2. 52 Lime Street | 192m | U/C
3. 100 Bishopsgate | 172m | U/C
4. One Blackfriars | 163m | U/C
5. One Nine Elms Tower 2 | 161m | U/C
6. Principal Place | 161m | U/C
7. 250 City Road Tower 1 | 155m | U/C
8. South Bank Tower | 151m | T/O
9. Baltimore Wharf | 150m | U/C
10. 360 London | 149m | U/C
11. 250 City Road Tower 2 | 137m | U/C
12. Providence Tower | 136m | T/O
13. Saffron Square | 134m | T/O
14. Two Fifty One | 134m | U/C
15. Nine Elms Point | 126m | U/C
16. Novotel Canary Wharf | 124m | U/C
17. One The Elephant | 123m | T/O
18. Chelsea Waterfront | 122m | U/C
19. Vauxhall Sky Gardens | 120m | U/C
20. 261 City Road Lexicon | 115m | T/O
21. Capital Towers | 112m | U/C
22. Dollar Bay Tower | 109m | U/C
23. Stratford Central | 103m | U/C
24. One Angel Court | 101m | U/C
25. Skyline Woodberry Down | 101m | U/C





Status: Approved - Demo - Site Prep

1. City Pride | 233m | App
2. Newfoundland Tower | 220m | Site Prep
3. North Quay Tower 1 | 216m | App
4. South Quay Plaza Tower 1 | 215m | Demo
5. Wood Wharf A1 | 204m | Site Prep
6. North Quay Tower 2 | 203m | App
7. One Lansdowme | 203m | App
8. Wood Wharf E4 | 187m | App
9. Wardian London Tower 1 | 183m | App
10. The Madison | 182m | Demo
11. Wood Wharf F1 | 173m | App
12. Morello Tower | 172m | App
13. Wardian London Tower 2 | 170m | App
14. Aykon | 170m | App
15. Vauxhall Square Tower 1 | 168m | App
16. Vauxhall Square Tower 2 | 168m | App
17. 1 Park Place | 162m | Site Prep
18. Bankside Quarter Tower 1 | 161m | App
19. Wood Wharf J3 | 155m | App
20. Wood Wharf B1 | 155m | App
21. 40 Leadenhall Street | 154m | App
22. 1 Merchant Square | 150m | App
23. Wood Wharf A3 | 150m | Site Prep
24. 1 Bank Street | 147m | Site Prep
25. Harbour Central A | 145m | App
26. Manhattan Loft Gardens | 143m | Site Prep
27. Millharbour Village G3 | 142m | App
28. Vauxhall Cross Island Tower 1 | 141m | App
29. Imperial West | 141m | App
30. Canada Water Sites C and E | 140m | Demo
31. Doon Street Tower | 140m | App
32. Millharbour Village G1.1 | 139m | App
33. College Road | 135m | App
34. The Atlas Building | 134m | Demo
35. 20 Blackfriars Road | 133m | App
36. Keybridge House | 129m | Demo
37. Wood Wharf E2 | 128m | App
38. Infinity London Tower 1 | 127m | Site Prep
39. Millharbour Village G2.1 | 126m | App
40. Elizabeth House Redevelopment | 123m | App
41. One Crown Place Tower 1 | 123m | App
42. Stratosphere | 122m | Site Prep
43. 2 Millharbour B | 122m | App
44. Harbour Central C | 122m | App
45. North Quay Tower 3 | 120m | App
46. Taberner House | 120m | Demo
47. New Covent Garden Market N9 | 117m | App
48. Convoys Wharf | 116m | App
49. The Ram Quarter | 116m | Site Prep
50. South Quay Plaza Tower 2 | 115m | Demo
51. The Stage Shoreditch | 115m | App
52. Vauxhall Cross Island Tower 2 | 115m | App
53. 12-20 Wyvil Road | 114m | App
54. Millharbour Village G2.2 | 113m | App
55. Ram Brewery | 113m | Demo
56. The Quill | 110m | App
57. Bankside Quarter Tower 1 | 108m | App
58. Infinity Tower 2 | 108m | Site Prep
59. One Crown Place Tower 2 | 107m | App
60. White City Green | 107m | App
61. Wood Wharf J1 | 106m | App
62. Millharbour Village G4 | 102m | App
63. New Covent Garden Market N7 | 100m | App



Status: On Hold - Proposed - Rejected

1. 1 Undershaft | 304m | Pro
2. 22 Bishopsgate | 278m | Pro
3. Hertsmere Tower | 237m | Pro
4. Quay House | 228m | Rej
5. Alpha Square 1 | 212m | Pro
6. 30 Marsh Wall | 185m | Pro
7. 225 Marsh Wall | 185m | Pro
8. Mitsubishi Tower | 168m | Pro
9. The Goodsyard Tower 1 | 166m | Pro
10. 13-14 Appold Street | 156m | Pro
11. 225 Marsh Wall | 154m | Pro
12. The Goodsyard Tower 2 | 153m | Pro
13. 10 Bank Street | 150m | Pro
14. Glengall Quay | 145m | Pro
15. Gateway Tower | 140m | Pro
16. Heron Plaza | 135m | On Hold
17. 54 Marsh Wall Tower 1 | 130m | Pro
18. The Goodsyard Tower 3 | 130m | Pro
19. The Goodsyard Tower 4 | 117m | Pro
20. Alpha Square 2 | 116m | Pro
21. East India Dock W2 | 114m | Pro
22. East India Dock E4 | 110m | Pro
23. 201-207 Shoreditch High Street | 110m | Pro
24. Whitechapel Square | 105m | Pro
25. One Portal Way Block 1 | 104m | Pro
26. Enderby Place and London Cruise Terminal | 102m | Pro


Total: 159

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Old June 25th, 2015, 09:17 PM   #145
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MANCHESTER 2021

Here's mine including Axis, Cambridge Street, Whitworth, the future 60storey tower and Great Jackson Street Cluster, St Johns, Water Street, Vertical Village etcetc... Every building in this mockup is an actual proposal or project U/C from recent times

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Old June 27th, 2015, 01:57 AM   #146
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Agreed, no matter how much European skylines are growing they are still so far behind North America and Asia. The classical architecture is stunning in Europe
Depends on the criteria you're using to judge skylines really. In terms of sheer size then yes, the main European centres are behind the big cities in Asia, but only really behind NY Chicago and Toronto in NA. But in terms of quality, which personally is more important than scale, Europe can comfortably hold it's own with any region. I'd argue the consistency of design quality for scrapers in the main European centres is comfortably ahead of Asia and at least equal to NA.
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Old June 27th, 2015, 03:50 PM   #147
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Best European Skyline is, and will still be by 2025, MOSCOW.

Great video that focus on the other parts of this amazing city, but still have some shots of the CBD.



In the classical architecture "category" it is in the same league with Paris or London, but have way better skyscrapers.

Even for "classic" skyscrapers, for me those stalinist "commie-gothic" buildings are really awesome, and they add some "maturity" to the skyscraper scene, that only the art deco towers in North America does. (no skylines in Asia have skyscrapers so old)
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Old July 1st, 2015, 11:00 PM   #148
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Design for new skyscraper in Frankfurt financial district presented.
  • Planned height is 185 meters with 48 floors
  • 60000 square meters of gross floor area.
  • Completion in 2018



I really like this proposal, any more information or news on it?
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Old July 3rd, 2015, 04:10 AM   #151
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I want to understand why you Russians are always competing with Europe. It's called inferiority complex, hidden from the historic complex of megalomania plaguing always your country and your politicians.
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Old July 3rd, 2015, 02:09 PM   #153
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I want to understand why you Russians are always competing with Europe.
I expect this from an american, but Russia is in Europe.

As for competition inside Europe, England is always competing France, Spain with Italy, Sweden with Denmark, Belgium with Holland, and so on.

and the "matchmaking" can go on... and on... nothing new under the sun.
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I want to understand why you Russians are always competing with Europe. It's called inferiority complex, hidden from the historic complex of megalomania plaguing always your country and your politicians.
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I expect this from an american, but Russia is in Europe.

As for competition inside Europe, England is always competing France, Spain with Italy, Sweden with Denmark, Belgium with Holland, and so on.

and the "matchmaking" can go on... and on... nothing new under the sun.
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I expect this from an american, but Russia is in Europe.

As for competition inside Europe, England is always competing France, Spain with Italy, Sweden with Denmark, Belgium with Holland, and so on.

and the "matchmaking" can go on... and on... nothing new under the sun.
You have expressed your opinion stating that the architecture of Moscow is better than that of Paris and London. it's your opinion. London is the most visited city in the world, Paris is the third; Moscow... I don't know, is not among the top twenty. And you boast of having a handful of mediocre skyscrapers surrounded by Soviet-style commieblocks. Only the worst suburbs of Naples and Berlin have similar architecture, there is not much to boast about.
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DISCUSS: Best European Skyline By 2025

^ I beg to disagree, Moscow's business center is a beautiful project with unique and pretty awesome individual skyscrapers with a combination of height and density that London and Paris cannot match. It's got like what, 8 out of the 10 tallest buildings in Europe for god's sake.
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You have expressed your opinion stating that the architecture of Moscow is better than that of Paris and London. it's your opinion. London is the most visited city in the world, Paris is the third; Moscow... I don't know, is not among the top twenty.
Do you have reading problems?

I said Moscow classical architecture is in the same league... and that mean just as good. Not that is better.

And yes, it have better SKYSCRAPERS, since London only have one supertall, Paris have none.

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As for number of tourists... is not exactly the most relevant. There are many reasons why a city is visited. Stuff like how accessible it is (how far, how expensive, how easy is to get a visa and stuff), how safe it is, how well advertised is, and many other reasons than architecture.

I would love to visit Tahiti, but believe me, is not the architecture.

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Top cities for international tourists are (cnn. 2015)

Top city destinations by arrivals and growth

1. Hong Kong -- 23,770,200 (6.5%)

2. Singapore -- 21,345,700 (7.7%)

3. Bangkok -- 15,822,600 (14.6%)

4. London -- 15,461,000 (2.3%)

5. Macau -- 13,360,800 (3.4%)

6. Kuala Lumpur, Malaysia -- 13,339,500 (6.7%)

7. Shenzhen, China -- 12,100,400 (9.6%)

8. New York City -- 11,618,000 (8.9%)

9. Antalya, Turkey -- 10,296, 600 (-1.6%)

10. Paris -- 9,780,800 (3.3%)

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London, Paris or New York rank higher (1,2 and 3) on total number of tourists, because they have a lot of visitors from own country, so I leave out biased people from own country and only consider international tourists.

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So yes, Moscow might not have many visitors because of distance and putin other reasons, but with your logic, Macau is above New York in architecture or Antalya is above Paris.
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I said Moscow classical architecture is in the same league... and that mean just as good. Not that is better.

And yes, it have better SKYSCRAPERS, since London only have one supertall, Paris have none.
This concept is totally wrong. The skyscrapers of Moscow are "best" only for height. The height is not always synonymous with beauty. We must also consider the harmony with the surroundings of the city.
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This thread is being slightly derailed.

Regarding future Europeans skylines, The City of London cluster may potentially get its first super-tall via 1 Undershaft, very early stages at the moment though. However this would considerably change and enhance The City of London cluster, giving it a much needed 'pinnacle'.






A massing of the potential height for the site.

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