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Old March 26th, 2015, 08:20 PM   #21
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I hope the project is realized. When is the referendum.

Is there already a date?
This summer, I believe.
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Old March 26th, 2015, 08:23 PM   #22
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Why is the french prime minister building a tower for his wife in switzerland?

Obviously the thought of a supertall in the mountains makes little sense, and I wonder how do they plan on dealing with some problems from building such a tall object in an alpine valley surrounded by tall peaks, and dealing with subfreezing temperatures and gusts of wind.

Other than that, when it comes to aesthetics, I would support this proposal. It would be unique, one of a kind, and it would look great.
It isn't like they are going to be building supertalls in every mountain valley, what's the harm of having a skyscraper?
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Old March 26th, 2015, 08:26 PM   #23
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Similar projects have been postponed or abandoned in the same region in the past:

In 2004, citizens approved a special zoning plan for a 105m-highrise. But its construction has not begun yet.

Another 77m-highrise was refused in Celerina in 2006.
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Old March 26th, 2015, 08:55 PM   #24
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chances of this happening are indeed very low
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Old March 26th, 2015, 11:52 PM   #25
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A very crazy site, but one of the best projects of Europe, (personal think) I hope that will be built in the next years.
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Old March 27th, 2015, 12:14 AM   #26
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A giant mirror-stick-hotel is a pretty elegant way to "store" the visitors of the Therme.

Still, it looks a bit funny standing there amongst those giant Alp peaks. Haven't made up my mind about this yet... But a Zumthor spa, Ando park and Mayne tower in a setting like that is quite impressive to say the least.
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Old March 27th, 2015, 01:13 AM   #27
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This project is at most an incitation for a discussion about the less touristic Alpine regions and its problems to keep jobs and economic viability. A mind game, a mental game. I don't what would be the right term in English.

Visions costs nothing. But considering the fact that the locals of Vals probably have to pay the maintenance some day, I'm not sure that they will approve it.

Or another approach:
A good advertisment for Vals. How to get into the editorial part of newspapers around the world for free? Propose a 380m tower next to a 3000m mountain in a remote village.


Actually I like the project. But it's not the Swiss culture to build useless things. Therefore it has no chances.
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Old March 27th, 2015, 12:57 PM   #28
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Oh hell no ... leave nature alone!! Build this one in the city
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Old March 27th, 2015, 01:36 PM   #29
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"Femme de Vals" ???

When I first read the title, I really thought it was a joke about the wife of the French Prime Minister, Manuel Valls ! "Femme" meaning "wife" in French...


Anyway, this frozen phallus will have to withstand strong winds but also earthquakes (ah the forgotten threat in the Alps). But I'm sure that engineers will find technical response to that.

Next step : a supertall in an oceanic trench off Japan's coasts .

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Old March 27th, 2015, 02:01 PM   #30
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The tower itself looks half decent, it's just that this has got to be one of the stupidest locations for a supertall that has ever been proposed.

I've almost never thought a skyscraper could be a blight on the landscape but this is certainly an exception.
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Old March 27th, 2015, 04:04 PM   #31
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Caution - polemic: Since the currency disaster with the Swiss Franc Switzerland is doing really anything to get back on map – so pointless.

Honestly I always thought nothing worse could be done to the alps then the horrible architecture of French cities like La Plagne …

Build this tower in (really) any major city of the world but leave this village alone.
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Old March 27th, 2015, 05:38 PM   #32
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But it's not the Swiss culture to build useless things. Therefore it has no chances.
It's not the Swiss culture to build useless things? Talk for yourself. By chance, there’s also some Swiss that have visions and think outside the box.

What’s wrong or what’s right? What’s usefull and what’s useless? These questions have no answer. Civilizations that don’t have any vision are dying.
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Old March 27th, 2015, 08:23 PM   #33
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Floor plans of the tower









Source: http://www.world-architects.com/arch...e_de_Vals_2710
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Old March 28th, 2015, 03:01 AM   #34
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It's not the Swiss culture to build useless things? Talk for yourself. By chance, there’s also some Swiss that have visions and think outside the box.

What’s wrong or what’s right? What’s usefull and what’s useless? These questions have no answer. Civilizations that don’t have any vision are dying.
Pardon me, I should write "unprofitable things".
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Old March 28th, 2015, 10:24 AM   #35
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The developers certainly think it will be profitable. It's a tall building for sure, but it only has few units in it afterall.
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liking the floor plans there,very few elevators,but then again,very few units
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As swiss guy I am really asking me if this project is real and has a chance to be built and economically is worth or the investor wants to be in the in the focus and headlight.

If I understand it correctly it would be (one of) the highest skyscraper(s) in Europe, in a small countryside alpine valley and wants to beat structures of urban centers as in London, Paris and Moscow? For me this does not make sense, also building on the ground of the valley, as I heard also that the ground is not very stable there and a lot of engineers and technical help would be required to build solid foundation , but let us see if the investor is serious enough for this construction.
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Old March 29th, 2015, 08:54 AM   #38
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The building looks great but it has to be the most pointless skyscraper ever proposed. I mean who needs a skyscraper when you have far taller mountains so close by
Isn't it the exact opposite? By building a tall skyscraper people can live in a building with amazing views of the mountains. Besides, I doubt very many people want to use a tent on the side of a mountain as their primary residence.
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Old March 29th, 2015, 09:19 AM   #39
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Beautiful, should make one like it in the Vatican gardens, or in the White House

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Old March 29th, 2015, 04:06 PM   #40
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also building on the ground of the valley, as I heard also that the ground is not very stable there and a lot of engineers and technical help would be required to build solid foundation
the Alps are rocks, just drill soil to rocks and pour concrete to that holes and it's just fine
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