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Old May 1st, 2005, 10:11 AM   #81
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according to the news report, hk disney may will hv coorporation with universial studio to develop the phase 2
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according to the news report, hk disney may will hv coorporation with universial studio to develop the phase 2
No, that's not what the article said. The article said Hong Kong Disneyland needs to develop phase 2 in 5 years to compete with a New Casino Project in Singapore, which the casino developer is cooperating with Universal Studios Park.

There are official press release stating that Hong Kong government gives Disney the exclusive right to use that land AND the phase 2 land (which is being reclaimed from sea right now) for the next 10 years. If Disney doesn't build anything on that land, then HK government can get back the land and give the land to somebody else, and in that case, it will be HK government cooperating with Universal Studios, not Disney cooperating with Universal.

For Disney to cooperate with Universal is like for Mercedes to cooperate with BMW, it's impossible.
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Old May 1st, 2005, 04:19 PM   #83
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May 1, 2005
Community entitled to Disneyland details

The eagerly awaited launch of Hong Kong's Disneyland is now only a few months away. Our city's bid to establish the top tourist destination in Asia is about to be put to the test. And the stakes are high.

Disney's first "magic kingdom" in China has been gradually taking shape over the past two years and is now nearing completion. The site at Penny's Bay on Lantau will soon provide a new home for Mickey Mouse, Donald Duck and a host of other favourite characters.

The top turret of Sleeping Beauty's Castle was put in place last year, as work continued to construct Space Mountain. Thousands of jobs at the park have gone on offer, and bookings are coming in for Disney's two theme hotels.

Last week, new trains that will take visitors to the park from Sunny Bay on North Lantau were unveiled, complete with Mickey Mouse-shaped windows.

Everything appears to be set for a spectacular launch in September, when the park will finally open its doors to visitors. It is expected to receive 5.6 million of them a year.

There are, however, some important questions concerning the launch which are yet to be answered.

Concerns have been raised that a potential flood of initial visitors could cause chaos both at the park and at the mainland border.

Disney has not revealed how many visitors it expects on the opening day. The park has a capacity of 30,000. It is not yet known whether tickets will be available at the gate or whether - as the government has requested - they must be booked in advance.

No details of any contingency plans to cope with the expected crowds have been revealed. And there is no word on suggestions that special immigration controls should be set up at the park to ease potential congestion at the border.

Answers to these questions should be provided so that Hong Kong people can feel confident that all will go well when the big day arrives. There are considerable logistical problems to be overcome.

More than a third of visitors to the park are expected to come from the mainland. The relaxation of immigration controls for mainland travellers to Hong Kong has greatly increased their numbers over the past two years. The "golden week" holiday, for example, which began yesterday, is expected to see 460,000 mainland tourists enter Hong Kong.

The arrangements for the expected influx of Disney tourists will need to be carefully worked out and made public well in advance of the opening.

It is worth remembering, as the launch approaches, how much this park means to Hong Kong. The government went to great lengths to seal the deal, which was announced in 1999. The investment involves the spending of $ 22 billion in taxpayers' money. The necessary land and infrastructure has been provided.

This great expense and effort is believed worthwhile because Disneyland is the key to Hong Kong's bid to become the top tourist destination in Asia. It has the potential to transform Hong Kong's image, attract more family -orientated tourists and pay big dividends.

The community therefore has a big stake in Disneyland's success. It is entitled to be kept informed of developments and details. Public interest is mounting.

Concerns that Disney would soon launch a new rival theme park in Shanghai have dissipated. It now looks as if the first mainland Disneyland will not arrive until at least 2010. But, as we report today, Disney is considering opening another Asian theme park, in India. Our city's park can, in time, expect to face growing competition.

We are looking forward to the grand opening of Hong Kong Disneyland and hope it will be a great success. But the park will be more likely to work its magic if the public are kept well informed.
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No, that's not what the article said. The article said Hong Kong Disneyland needs to develop phase 2 in 5 years to compete with a New Casino Project in Singapore, which the casino developer is cooperating with Universal Studios Park.

There are official press release stating that Hong Kong government gives Disney the exclusive right to use that land AND the phase 2 land (which is being reclaimed from sea right now) for the next 10 years. If Disney doesn't build anything on that land, then HK government can get back the land and give the land to somebody else, and in that case, it will be HK government cooperating with Universal Studios, not Disney cooperating with Universal.

For Disney to cooperate with Universal is like for Mercedes to cooperate with BMW, it's impossible.
Just in my opinion. Since I've been to both Universal Studios Japan, Osaka and Universal Studios Hollyhood, LA , I'm sure Disneyland is much better and more attractive theme park than Universal. It seems to me that the phase 2 of Hong Kong's Disneyland should be the expanding and upgrading of phase 1, not constructing another theme park such as crappy Six Flags or Universal Studios. As far as I know, Hong Kong Disneyland (phase 1) is not sufficient compared with the counterparts in USA and Japan, thus I'd like to express considerable skepticisim that people would not go to such a tiny park repeatedly. As for Tokyo Disney resort (Land and Sea), every year they open one or two new attractions to spend huge money (0.2 billion US$ per attraction). It is reported that they are planning to open the 3rd Disney theme park next to them. If there's no scope for new attractons or new theme sections, that means the death for theme park management, I think.
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Just in my opinion. Since I've been to both Universal Studios Japan, Osaka and Universal Studios Hollyhood, LA , I'm sure Disneyland is much better and more attractive theme park than Universal. It seems to me that the phase 2 of Hong Kong's Disneyland should be the expanding and upgrading of phase 1, not constructing another theme park such as crappy Six Flags or Universal Studios. As far as I know, Hong Kong Disneyland (phase 1) is not sufficient compared with the counterparts in USA and Japan, thus I'd like to express considerable skepticisim that people would not go to such a tiny park repeatedly. As for Tokyo Disney resort (Land and Sea), every year they open one or two new attractions to spend huge money (0.2 billion US$ per attraction). It is reported that they are planning to open the 3rd Disney theme park next to them. If there's no scope for new attractons or new theme sections, that means the death for theme park management, I think.
i also think there'd be a need for the phase 2 development for hk's disneyland. i mean even for myself, i'd love to go there once but i can't see myself going there again. in fact, i'm expecting strong criticisms from the press once it's opened, saying like it's ridiculous for the government to spend shit loads of money for infrastructure so that disney can build their theme park on it. (the whole piece of land is reclaimed)

as for the six flags thing or the universal studios, i think the government is planning not to put them near the disneyland but rather it'll be in Yum O (Sunny Bay) which is where the interchange station will be for disneyland.

one thing which i believe would be quite spectacular instead would be the water recreational centre right next to the park which is wholly developed by the government. that's a huge artificial lake which will be opened at the same time!
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I myself totally agree ... Disney in HK is going to be totally bashed by the media specially the ones who went to other parks ... to be honest disney didn't spend as much as they could for the hk park ... I believe when they planned the park they didn't realized how much potential the chinese market is ...
Phase 2 according to news article would appear in 5 years ... but i sure hope they would be expanded at the rate like the tokyo ones ...

Ocean Park on the other hand is getting quite a face lift ... the new phase being planned looks really good ... when the new phase expansion finishes i think the two parks can complement each other very well ...

hk's sister city Macau has a fisherman wharf theme park finished this year also ...
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i wouldn't call Macau fishermen's Wharf a theme park... it's got a volcano and a ride and what not but it's mainly a shopping/dining/yacht destination... can't compare to a ticket-at-the-door theme park...

i agree the media's gonna bash it like there's no tomorrow, but i really think they should look at long term... new theme park is to attract new tourists that wouldn't hv come otherwise... the main factor isn't to get people going to the park more than once! it's to attract ppl that came b4 to come see it, and ppl who never came b4 to come for the first time... in the long run, hving a disleyland puts HK into the club of only 5 cities in the world... that helps more than just tourism.

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Talents land jobs in HK Disneyland
5 May 2005
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With the opening of Hong Kong Disneyland later this year, Manila is reaping an unexpected harvest.

Filipino performers will earn US$1,270 to US$1,909 in Hong Kong, a big jump from their P600 to P3,000 per show here in Manila.

Walt Disney Entertainment, in partnership with the San Miguel Foundation for the Performing Arts (SMFPA) under its artistic director and award-winning composer Ryan Cayabyab, auditioned members of notable Filipino theater and dance companies.

Disney's talent casting representatives flew in from Hong Kong on March 30 and April 1, and again on April 15 to do a series of screenings. Eventually, they picked the final cast of singers, dancers, and character performers for their Hong Kong assignment. Disneyland will open on Sept. 12.

Cayabyab said the talent casting reps returned to Manila because they were overwhelmed by the wealth of Filipino talent they saw in the other auditions held worldwide. Aside from that, Walt Disney Entertainment was so impressed with SMFPA's management of the two previous auditions for musicians and vocalists (in November 2004 and in January this year).

Deo Dipasupil, the audition's enlistment coordinator, said: "The partnership between Walt Disney Entertainment and SMFPA covers only the audition itself. Whatever the result may be, it is between Disney Entertainment and the talents themselves."

He also said that any information about the screenings that was not included in their previous releases is considered confidential. A source in SMFPA said the performers' salaries range from HK$10,000 to HK$15,000 or US$1,270 to US$1909, similar to the rates of Walt Disney World in Florida.

An insider in the theater circuit said members of Tanghalang Pilipino, Ballet Philippines, Repertory Philippines, Bayanihan Dance Co., and Gantimpala Theater Foundation, among other groups, were invited to join the audition. More than a hundred showed up.

According to Repertory Philippines' Ayam Barredo, nine members of their company have left. Jaime del Prado, Ralion Alonzo, Phiona Baranda, Franz Imperial, Maki Sera, Amty Sietereales, Wendell Frando, Myrene Hernandez, and Jay Lopez were rehearsing for the company's newest production, "The Emperor's New Clothes," set to open in Manila in August, when Walt Disney Entertainment in Hong Kong called them up individually and confirmed they had passed the test.

Barredo sees this as a good sign because as veteran performers find better opportunities abroad, "doors will be opened for aspiring, young, equally talented artists back here."

As Don Robinson, Hong Kong Disneyland group managing director, said on their Web site : "Hong Kong Disneyland will be an ideal platform from which to showcase the best performing talents to the world."

In line with the theme park's opening, Hong Kong Disneyland, a 126 hectare property overlooking the waters of Penny's Bay in Lantau, partnered with MTR Corp., to create the MTR Disneyland Resort line.

Walt Disney Entertainment is still looking for full-time performers for Walt Disney World in Florida and Tokyo Disney Resort.
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Disney may woo rich tourists in phase two
Luxury hotel operators are interested, says InvestHK chief

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06 May 2005
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Disney's Hong Kong theme park might try to appeal to more affluent tourists by bringing in celebrity American chef Wolfgang Puck and international hotel chains to run businesses there.

According to InvestHK director-general Mike Rowse, a number of hotel operators have expressed an interest in Hong Kong. The idea of their managing any - or all - of the three hotels slated for the park's second phase has been broached.

"The Disney park can accommodate three hotels in the first phase of construction and three more in the second phase. Do they really want to manage all of them?" Mr Rowse said yesterday.

A Disney spokeswoman said the park's immediate priority was the September 12 opening with two hotels, which the company owns and manages. The second phase will not begin until the park draws 10 million visitors a year.

Disney's parks usually have enough attractions to last a visitor longer than a single day's stay, and the company prefers to maintain control of hotels within its destination resorts, to capture the overnight visitor market. This is not surprising given that tourists who spend two or three days at the park represent a much more lucrative target market than those who just visit for the day and stay with friends and family.

Although Hong Kong Disneyland said it would also operate all the park eateries, apart from two Chinese-style outlets run by Maxim's Caterers, the addition of a Wolfgang Puck restaurant would signal a strategy the company had tried before.

Disney's California Adventure, which opened in February 2001, had Avalon Cove, an upscale seafood restaurant by Mr Puck. It also featured high-end wine producer Robert Mondavi's posh Golden Vine Winery restaurant in a bid to lure big-spending customers.

However, in October that year, low visitor numbers forced the two partners to reduce their investment and close the restaurants.

The Wolfgang Puck Express eatery now operates in Disney Marketplace and Downtown Disney in Orlando, Florida. These outlets serve pizzas, salads and sandwiches. InvestHK said the chef had discussed the possibility of setting up shop in Hong Kong.

"If Wolfgang Puck and Disney already have a relationship, they would be talking," Mr Rowse added without elaborating.

The Disney spokeswoman said the Hong Kong park had not been contacted by Mr Puck.
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Legislators lash out at 'greedy' MTRC
Sylvia Hui, Hong Kong Standard
May 7, 2005



The MTR Corp was accused of being "greedy" and "socially irresponsible" by furious legislators who also described the HK$2 billion Disneyland Resort Line as a shady deal between MTRC and the government and demanded that the company lower the fares it charges.

Legislators attending a Legislative Council subcommittee meeting on railway matters Friday launched the attack when MTRC representatives told the meeting fares to Disneyland will be based on "existing fare structures."

"Although you say train fares to Disneyland are much cheaper than bus fares, there is no reason to base Disney trip fares using your existing structure," said democrat Andrew Cheung.

"Don't forget you are exempted from HK$800 million worth of dividends to the government."

The resort line, which is expected to transport 40 percent of the visitors to the theme park when it opens September 12, was initially considered not financially viable.

In 2002, the government, a major shareholder in the MTRC, agreed to waive its claim for HK$798 million worth of dividends.

Legislators accused the MTRC and the government of bypassing Legco when the 2002 decision was made. They also doubted the profitability of the venture and described the resort line as an overinvestment.

"The people give [the subsidized train line] their public money but MTRC pockets all the goods," said Cheng.

When asked to disclose financial projections for the line, MTRC deputy operations director Andrew McCusker said the information is commercially sensitive. He stressed the fares are highly competitive, but the company will review prices after assessing market response.

The fares ranging from HK$6 to HK$26 - much lower than proposed bus fares at HK$7 to HK$38 - triggered accusations the government is deliberately suppressing other public transport providers to ensure MTRC maintains a reasonable passenger flow.

The government and MTRC were urged to submit written replies on how and when the government will receive the waived dividends.

The attacks were followed by more criticism of MTRC's financial transparency. Legislators were furious when McCusker said that 10 cents charged to each Octopus journey from MTR passengers, aimed to subsidize the fitting of platform screen doors, will "go on indefinitely."

"At the time Legco approved this move we only agreed on charging passengers for the HK$2 billion construction cost of the screen doors," legislator Lau Kong-wah said. "We never agreed to charge people indefinitely for the doors' maintenance and cleaning costs."

Since July 2000 MTRC has collected HK$3 million from passengers for the screen doors, said McCusker.

The government was also accused of failing to maintain its role as gatekeeper of public interests.

MTRC's Disney line train, unveiled late last month, has two new stations at Sunny Bay and Disneyland.

The trains' four carriages, each carrying 180 passengers, are expected to be able to carry 11,000 people during peak hours. However, up to 17,000 people can squeezed in during extremely busy hours.

It is the first train line in the world specially dedicated to a theme park.
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It is the first train line in the world specially dedicated to a theme park.

hello?! shouldn't this be a bona-fide MTRC hit for the entire city??

why is there ANY infighting at all on this?? i don't understand.
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It looks like they lifted those trains from spare rolling stock. At least they disguised it well. Hope they aren't filled with creaks and rattles on opening day.
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Why not maglev trains?
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^ maglev can't work on such a short distance

as for all the infighting, the Legco in Hong Kong do it all the time... certain faction in the Legco tends to take the opposite stand whenever the gov't propose something big... it's a shame coz on the opposite Singapore has no such hurdle for the gov't and they pass beneficial policies much faster than HK... :-(
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There needs to be adequate public debate for big projects such as Disneyland and the West Kowloon Cultural District. The government cannot single handedly pass something, although it may be beneficial, without consultation of the stakeholders. After all, taxpayers' money will be used and there is an accountability relationship that must be enforced.

A tolerant society will always want to hear about the other side of the story and the people will decide what course of action to take.
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i believe HK politics is only just evolving out of its island-mentality, and all these debates (including reclamation pro/con) are direct causalities of this relative expansionist thought process--

my only frustration is to see that evolution CONTINUE, and have HK believe in itself and its role in all the world facilitated by its own means
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New Disneyland takes shine off holiday week in Hong Kong
By Justine Lau in Hong Kong
Published: May 7 2005 03:00 | Last updated: May 7 2005 03:00

The lure of a new Disneyland in Hong Kong has brought its tourism industry a disappointing "Golden Week" holiday as mainland visitors save their cash for when the US theme park opens in September.

While Chinese tourists have provided a big boost to Hong Kong's economy in recent years, the tourism and retail sectors depend for much of their business on the holiday periods around May Day, the lunar new year and National Day when most Chinese travel.

In the first six days of the present Golden Week break - China's week-long May Day celebrations - the number of mainland visitors grew 6.7 per cent compared with last year, to 294,883, according to Hong Kong government figures. This is a substantially lower rise than during Chinese new year in February when visitor numbers rose 14 per cent.

Although Hong Kong is the biggest overseas destination for mainland travellers, the number visiting the territory has been dropping month-on-month since December because Chinese citizens are now allowed to travel to more countries in Asia and Europe.

Tourism operators say people are also saving money to visit Hong Kong later this year after Disneyland - Asia's second - opens on Lantau, the biggest island in the former British colony.

"For the poorer people in China, travelling to Hong Kong is once in a lifetime. They definitely want to include Disneyland in their itineraries," said Charles Ng, chairman of Hong Kong's inbound tour operators association.

Over the longer term, though, the industry is optimistic that Disneyland will generate renewed growth in the number of Chinese tourists. The Hong Kong Tourism Board said it expected visitor numbers to rise rapidly after the opening of Disneyland, which expects to attract 5.6m people in its first year, with 35 per cent of those coming from China.

However, those who visit Hong Kong are spending less than they used to, mainly because they are buying fewer clothes and cheaper jewellery, retailers and tour operators say.

Average spending among travellers from China's northern cities - the biggest-spending Chinese tourists - has fallen by more than 20 per cent from about HK$7,000 ($900, €700, £475) last year to about HK$5,500 during this year's Golden Week, according to Mr Ng. They spent an average of HK$6,000 during the lunar new year.

Andrew Wong, assistant executive manager at Chow Tai Fook, a large Hong Kong jewellery chain, said spending by mainland tourists this week had been 5 per cent less than last year.
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Hong Kong Confident Of Over 5.6 Mln Disneyland Visitors

KUALA LUMPUR, May 11 (Bernama) -- Hong Kong is confident of surpassing the 5.6 million visitor target set for its Disneyland during the first year of operations.

"Disney's projection is 5.6 million visitors in the first year. They are going to be wrong and, of course, they will be happy to be proven wrong," Hong Kong Financial Secretary Henry Tang said Wednesday.

When opened in September this year, Hong Kong's Disneyland will be the first Disney theme park in the region, which is co-owned by the government.

Tang said last year, there were 21.8 million visitors to Hong Kong, of which 50 percent came from mainland China with high spending power.

On average, each visitor from China spent about US$580 (RM2,204), he added.

Tang was leading a two-day five-member delegation to Malaysia to foster closer economic relations. Tuesday, he called on International Trade and Industry Minister, Datuk Seri Rafidah Aziz.

He also called on Second Finance Minister, Tan Sri Nor Mohamed Yakcop.

Besides promotions as a cosmopolitan city for tourists, Hong Kong also aimed to promote its eco-tourism as well as religion-tourism sectors.

"We have cable car services to bring tourists to the biggest sitting Buddha," Tang told reporters during a briefing here.

Such measures, he said, would enable Hong Kong to offer a greater range of products and services to its visitors.
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Money Magazine from TVB on 2005/05/08

The 1st part program talks about Disney in Hong Kong and how they are finding people to fill up positions. Also, it shows how fire works of The Symphony of Lights are setup in the buildings with closed ups. Sorry, but Cantonese only...

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