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Old June 6th, 2005, 03:35 AM   #141
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seems like the phase I planning, smoking policy and shark-fin soup policy have already been interpreted as blunders by the public...
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Old June 6th, 2005, 04:09 AM   #142
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umm what the ****? keep in mind hongkong.. this is disneyland not theflamingo hilton

they really skewed the essence of Disney in this disneyland.. sharkfin should not be served, and smoking should DEFINITELY not be allowed
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Old June 6th, 2005, 05:42 AM   #143
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Oh well... Disneyland Paris allows the alcohol to be bought. I'm pretty sure smoking is allowed in certain areas of other Disney theme parks. When you look at it, HK Disneyland is no exception.
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Old June 6th, 2005, 07:43 AM   #144
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to Disney's credit however, they have stated they're merely meeting HK's current smoking legislation standard, and will immediately comply with much more stringent smoking standards as they're implemented next year...
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Old June 6th, 2005, 11:19 AM   #145
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Whatever.I will bring my lung cancer cells into the theme park.
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Old June 7th, 2005, 03:10 AM   #146
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Old June 7th, 2005, 08:40 AM   #147
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If you look closely at the "land maps", you will notice that there are actually sketches for all the possible extensions just off to the side (noticably to the left in Adventureland and to the right of Tomorrowland).
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Old June 7th, 2005, 06:38 PM   #148
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7 June 2005
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The opening of Hong Kong's Disneyland in September was supposed to be a boon for local travel agencies, but many agents say they are hesitant to sell tickets to the amusement park due to strict regulations, and a huge deposit demanded by park operators.

While shanghai International Travel Service is currently accepting reservations for the first tour group to visit the amusement park, which is scheduled to open on September 12, others say they are worried selling Disney tours will be risky and unprofitable.

Shanghai international's three-day tour, which costs 3,080 yuan (US$371), includes one day at the amusement park and one night at Disney's Hollywood Hotel.

All members of the tour must confirm they will make the trip before July 27 and put down a 1,500 yuan deposit, which they will lose if they later drop out.

"We've received many calls inquiring about the tour," said a salesman with the Shanghai International. "Most calls are from companies that intend to offer the tour to their clients as a bonus. Few individual tourists have called."

Wu derong, general manager of the outbound department of Shanghai CYTS Tours Corporation, said Disneyland had begun meeting with local agencies, and is expected to grant two or three of them the right to sell tickets to the park and book rooms in its hotel.

The appointed dealers won't be offered any discount on park admission tickets, which cost HK$295 (US$38) for adults during the week and HK$350 on weekends, unless they book rooms in the park's hotel, he said. The cheapest rooms in the hotel go for HK$1,000 a night.

Dealers also must pay a 1 million yuan deposit, which they will lose if they don't inform the park about changes to reservations at least 30 days in advance.

"It is unprecedented for a tourist site to place so many requirements on travel agencies," Wu said. "To accept all of them is risky, since we don't know if Disneyland tickets will sell well."

The park will limit the number of visitors it accepts each day to between 30,000 and 35,000, so it wants to prevent companies from booking tickets and then canceling them at the last minute, travel agents explained.
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Old June 9th, 2005, 06:51 AM   #149
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CTII, Disney in talks on ticket sales
Mainland travel agency says 1,000 hotel rooms not enough

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China Travel International Investment Hong Kong (CTII) is in talks with Hong Kong Disneyland to sell tickets to the theme park through its mainland travel agencies, according to vice-chairman Shen Zhuying.

However, he refused to say whether CTII had asked to be Disneyland's sole agent.

Disney predicts the Lantau entertainment park will attract 5.6 million visitors in its first year, with at least 30 per cent from the mainland.

Mr Shen said the 1,000 rooms that would be available in two hotels from September 13 would not be enough. "We can offer packages providing tickets, hotel accommodation outside the park and transportation services for our customers," he said.

Mr Shen told yesterday's annual general meeting that the company's $2 billion Zhuhai Ocean Hotspring Resort in Zhuhai would open later this year.

"Our resort is different from Disneyland, therefore it will not create direct competition," he said.

CTII has not finalised the admission fee and hotel packages for its Zhuhai resort but the company expects the project to attract two million visitors in the first year. The Zhuhai resort has 1,000 rooms in two luxury hotels, 12 villas, a hot springs centre, medical centre and a 1,200-seat theatre.

During the Labour Day golden week holiday he said the company's travel-related revenue was up 10 per cent on last year.
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Old June 9th, 2005, 11:02 PM   #150
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Disney takes shark's fin off menu
Sylvia Hui, Hong Kong Standard
June 10, 2005

Backing down under global pressure from environmentalists, Disney has decided to take the controversial shark's fin soup off its banquet menu - but will still serve it on request after educating customers on the threat to sharks.

In response to protests against its serving shark's fin soup at wedding banquets offered at the Hong Kong Disneyland Hotel, the theme park will give pamphlets detailing the environmental impact of killing sharks to customers who insist on having the soup.

"We have heard many opinions and have given the matter careful consideration," said Irene Chan, spokeswoman for Hong Kong Disneyland.

"But most importantly, [the dish] is an integral part of Chinese banquets in Hong Kong culture, and we strongly believe we should give choice to our guests."

As with abalone and roast suckling pig, shark's fin soup is a traditional Chinese delicacy featured on most banquet menus.

Hong Kong Disneyland plans to serve the dish to newly-weds who request it at the Chinese-style banquets it offers when the park opens on September 12.

But environmentalists around the world are outraged, saying that consumption of the dish is responsible for a sharp decline in shark numbers worldwide.

They have accused Disney of being "unethical"and have threatened a boycott of all things Disney.

Insistent guests will be handed information pamphlets, which will show how sharks are killed, how the fins are harvested and the environmental impact of killing sharks.

The information will be prepared in a manner "suitable for a wedding," Chan said. "We will give them an informed choice, and we fully respect their choices."

She denied the move is a result of heavy pressure from environmentalists, and gave no indication of what dish will replace the pricey shark's fin soup on the menus.

According to Man Chi-sum, chief executive of local group Green Power which is preparing the pamphlet for Disney, the theme park consulted local green groups on their views on shark's fin soup two weeks ago.

Green Power is helping Disney voluntarily and has not received any fees, he said.

"We hope [Disney] will observe customers' reactions and consider not serving the dish entirely in the future," Man said.

"Any environmentalist would not want to see the soup served. But it is also important to have a discussion platform."

The theme park giant has also stressed it will only source shark's fins from "reliable and responsible suppliers" that adhere to relevant international treaties.

But some environmentalists remain unconvinced.

Brian Darvell, a marine protection activist and a member of the South China Diving Club, described the idea of handing out pamphlets as "ludicrous."

"It does nothing for them. The message is contradictory," he said.

"It's like saying, `I have principles, but if you give me a lot of money I can break them.' The word for it is `prostitution."'

The World Wide Fund for Nature , which is in discussions with Disney executives, said Thursday it could not comment while talks are underway.
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Old June 11th, 2005, 11:14 PM   #151
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When will they begin with phase 2 land reclamation?
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Old June 11th, 2005, 11:45 PM   #152
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theres no rollercoasters or castle, looks like a standard fair
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Old June 12th, 2005, 12:20 AM   #153
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^look again.


you've been demoted to 005-status now~~


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Old June 12th, 2005, 12:27 AM   #154
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When will they begin with phase 2 land reclamation?
I think it began already!
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Old June 12th, 2005, 02:59 AM   #155
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The hotel supposed to be Art-Deco, but why it looks so cheap...
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Old June 12th, 2005, 03:08 AM   #156
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Chad: those are just water-color impressions...

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Old June 12th, 2005, 03:32 AM   #157
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Hong Kong Disneyland to tell customers about environmental harm of shark fin soup
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10 June 2005

HONG KONG (AP) - Customers who want shark fin soup served at their banquets at Hong Kong Disneyland will be told about the harm done by the industry that supplies the fins, a Disney spokeswoman said Friday.

Disney will work with the Hong Kong environmental group Green Power to produce leaflets about the topic, said spokeswoman Irene Chan.

The pamphlets will be given to people booking banquet tables at the park, which opens Sept. 12, she said.

But Chan said the brochures will not be too graphic, and guests can decide "to read it or not."

Activists have been pressuring Disneyland to take shark fin soup off its menus. They say millions of sharks are killed each year for the traditional Asian delicacy, with fishermen often hacking off the fins and dumping the sharks back into the water where they face certain death.

But Disney has refused to remove the staple Hong Kong banquet dish from its menus.

"We feel that we need to give a choice to our guests," Chan said. "We believe this is important because we need to respect the culture, since most five-star hotels and restaurants are serving it (shark fin soup). But we want to ensure our guests have information to make an informed decision."

Chan also said Disney will use fins from "reliable and responsible suppliers" who kill the shark and use the entire fish.

She said the company wants to strike a balance between "environmental concerns and respect for the local culture."

Environmentalist Cheng Luk-ki of Green Power welcomed Disney's new measure. "It's better than putting shark fin soup on its menu and not discouraging customers from having the dish," Cheng said.

However, he said Disney should drop the dish altogether. He criticized the company for stressing its environmental concerns in its corporate policy, while serving food that he said damaged marine ecology.

"We think it's a bit hypocritical," he said. "It is not too serious about its policy."

The park is a joint venture between The Walt Disney Co. and the Hong Kong government.
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New shark slap at Disney
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13 June 2005
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Disney's pledge that it will source its shark fin from "reliable and responsible suppliers" is impossible to achieve, says a green group.

The company is working to salvage its environmentally friendly image that took a beating last month when it was revealed it will serve shark's fin soup when Hong Kong Disneyland opens September 12.

Representatives of WWF, formerly known as the World Wildlife Fund, said the idea of sustainable shark fins is illusory because there is no way to determine how fins are harvested.

The entertainment giant's official line is that Disneyland will only source fins from farm-raised sharks and those caught from well-regulated sources where entire remains of fish are used.

But Hong Kong WWF spokesman Clarus Chu said it is impossible to tell where a shark fin comes from or whether fishermen in areas where "finning" is banned have exploited legal loopholes.

"There is no regulation of the identity of sharks or their locations," said Chu. Disney was not available for comment. Green groups have long called for a ban on finning _ the practice of harvesting only the fins and throwing the rest of the shark back into the ocean.

"That's exactly why finning is being banned. It's a waste of resources," he said.

The only agreement regulating the shark fin trade is the voluntary Food and Agriculture Organization's International Plan of Action for the Conservation and Protection of Sharks, which Hong Kong does not recognize because China is not a signatory, Chu said.

According to conservationists, shark farms do not exist and fishermen skirt the law by harvesting the fins at sea and taking them into ports not governed by regulations. The only precise way to pinpoint their origin is through DNA testing, according the Chu.

"Currently, yes, it's very difficult _ almost impossible. And we are asking [Disney] to go for a certified and well-managed fishery. If you can't find it, stop serving the dish altogether, and wait till you can find it. It's simple," he said.

Environmentalists worldwide have conducted a heated campaign against shark finning.

Disney executives have been deluged with e-mail appeals, with most arguing that the demand for shark's fin soup in Asia has led directly to the global decline in shark populations.

Other than stressing it will only source shark fins from "reliable and responsible suppliers" that adhere to relevant international treaties, Disney last week said the dish will be taken off the banquet menus but will remain available to customers who request it. Conservationists have called this hypocritical and cynical because Disney regularly gives money to Asian organizations that work to protect and preserve ecology.

In the United States, a WWF education program called the Windows on the Wild is sponsored by the company.

Disney has also said it will distribute pamphlets designed by local organization Green Power to educate consumers of the environmental impact of shark finning.

Hong Kong is a hub in the global trade of shark fins. In 2003, more than 10,000 tonnes of dried shark fin were imported to the territory, accounting for about 50 percent of the world's trade. Some of these were re-exported.

Shark's fin soup is also popular in Japan, Singapore and other parts of China.

The US Senate banned shark finning in all US coastal waters in 2000.

The international plan of action prohibits the taking of threatened shark species and targets fishermen who do not use the entire shark, suggesting countries provide the means to regulate "un-utilized" sharks.

Most sharks are migratory, so banning their slaughter in one ocean area does not protect them everywhere or allow them to breed successfully, since most sharks breed in one section of the ocean and travel to others.

Sixty shark species are on the International Union for Conservation of Nature and Natural Resources list of those endangered. It is estimated that of the 400 or more species, 185 are near extinction.

However, according to 2001 data compiled by the organization and available on its Web site "Bite Back," some of the most endangered come from areas that shark fin sellers to Hong Kong trade from.

According to the site, Hong Kong imports shark fins from 125 countries and exports them to 75. Conservationists say little of that trade comes directly from Hong Kong waters.

Local and international environmentalists have launched a campaign taking Disney to task for avoiding the conservation issue in Hong Kong, accusing the company of setting double standards by promoting marine protection in the United States but not doing so in Asia.

Disney has received support from legislator Tommy Cheung, chairman of the Hong Kong Catering Industry Association, who doubts whether sharks are a threatened species.

But environmentalists seem to have a more potent force on their side: children. Recently more than 500 students at the English Schools Foundation drew up a petition calling for a boycott of Disneyland until shark fins are taken off the menu completely.

Paul Bayne, a biology teacher at West Island School, told The Standard that students took up the issue on their own accord when they learned that Disney would be serving the dish.

Bayne, a diver with the South China Dive Club who receives regular e-mails from a diverse gathering of environmentalists who are bringing the case against Disney, said he had shown the e-mails to students, but they had been presented without bias.

The students now have plans to take their petition campaign to other schools in Hong Kong.

In fact, in recent weeks, children from the lower forms at West Island School have come up with their own arguments against the trade in fins.
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Disneyland faces green call
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Pro-Beijing lawmaker Choy So-yuk has urged Hong Kong Disneyland to be greener, saying its decision to serve shark's fin soup at wedding banquets cannot be justified on the grounds that is a Chinese custom.

Her comments follow the recent announcement by Disneyland that it plans to serve shark's fin soup at Chinese- style wedding banquets when it opens in September.

Choy, a legislator and member of the pro-Beijing Democratic Alliance for the Betterment and Progress of Hong Kong, said Sunday just because eating shark's fin soup is a custom, that does not necessarily make it a good tradition.

"There are different kinds of traditional culture. We've to encourage and promote the good ones but correct the bad ones," Choy said.

"Unlike other cultural activities such as the bun festival, the custom of eating shark's fin has a global impact."

Choy, who chairs the Legco environmental affairs panel, said the controversial shark's fin trade is endangering shark species and severely damaging the marine ecosystem, which many consumers and suppliers may not be aware of. It is estimated that up to 85 percent of the world's shark fin trade passes through Hong Kong.

The US-based environmental group WildAid said the lucrative Asian market for shark's fin soup has played a significant part in the decline of shark populations worldwide.

Choy said shark's fin is a "non- environmentally friendly food" that Disneyland should not supply to its customers.

"The demand for eating shark's fin creates the incentive to kill more sharks ... I suggest Hong Kong should ban the import of shark fin," Choy said.

"It's not good for health and a waste of money."

Choy said Disneyland, as an internationally recognized corporation, should take the lead in practicing corporate social responsibility.

Backing down under global pressure from environmentalists, Disneyland last week decided to take shark's in soup off its banquet menu _ but will still serve it on request after educating customers on the threat to sharks.

WildAid accused Disneyland of being "hypocritical" by serving shark's fin while saying it cares about the environment.

Choy argued Disneyland should establish "forward-looking" objectives to promote environmental protection rather than simply following the "basic requirements" of existing laws.

As the Hong Kong Tourism Board will spend more than HK$900 million on global marketing campaigns for Hong Kong in the coming two years _ with Disneyland one of the key promotion _ Choy said the government should demand that the multinational entertainment conglomerate fulfill a higher requirement on environmental protection to establish a "sound image" for Hong Kong.

She criticized the government's environmental policies as outdated and lacking teeth to push Disneyland to do more.

Choy is calling on Disneyland to adopt more environmentally friendly measures at its theme park and hotels before the official opening on September 12.
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