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Old April 10th, 2005, 12:29 AM   #41
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Great news Mick. Do you think there will be anymore additions to their fleet before the end of 2005?

How many more planes will they add in perhaps 2006?

Croatian Airlines just got bigger by 2 planes, A319 100 and 1 A320 200, there are are plans to get 3 more aircrafts by 2008 bringing CA to size of 15 Aircrafts,

Current CA Fleet:
4 A320 200
5A319 100
3 ATR42 -300

Passenger figures are also set to hit 1.7 million in 2005 and Annual turnover over 300millSU$.
CA profits last year where 7mill$ net and CA is one of few airlines from Central and Eastern Europe which are making profits. Other is Adria Airways and Czech Air is also hoping to join this exclusive club.

CA long terms plans are to have fleet of 20-25 aircrafts and primarily concentrate on short to medium hull flights,
Fleet in 2010/12 might look something like this:

7 A320 - 200 (capacity 150 to 164 passengers)
8 A 319 - 100 (capacity 124 to 144 passengers)
5 CRJ 700 (capacity 54 to 72 passengers)



note German flag on the Aircraft, this A319 100 is being lased from Lufthansa, CA's strategic partner and member of airline alliance.

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Old April 10th, 2005, 01:18 AM   #42
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Some photos of Zagreb Pleso Airport

Approach...







Split Airport



Split Airport new passenger terminal (planded 2012) - sorry for my Picasso, lol


green - New Apron
Blue New Terminal and taxiway


Zadar Airport

note the line up of CL415 fire bombers on right across the road where military side of the airport is located.

Ljubljana Airport - just to show where new terminal will be constructed...
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Old April 10th, 2005, 05:11 PM   #43
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Dubrovnik Airline (Dubrovnik) has officially been launched today by Croatian shipping company Atlantska Plovidba. It will start operations in spring using two ex-Alitalia (AZ/Rome Fiumicino) MD-82s.


http://www.dnevnik.com.hr/index.php?article=6042

Air Adratic is based in Rijeka and Pula


Adriatic Air has also taken delivery of its 6th Aircraft totalling fleet of 6 MD82 aircrafts all from All Italia.

North Adria Aviation


Croatian Civil Airliners as it stands

Croatian Airlines
4 A320 200
5A319 100
3 ATR 42 300

Air Adriatic
6 MD 82

Trade Air (Osijek)
3 Let 410

Dubrovnik Airlines
2 MD 82

North Adria Airways
2 Let 410

none related, I had a visitor this summer before I went to States on holiday, it was of course mr. Squirrel



I was redecorating my flat (apartment) and installed new kitchen, new bathroom, skylights and all new in bedrooms and dining and living room, central and under floor heating - works lasted all summer (started in August and finished in mid October) and almost every day I had this little Squirrel coming to my window and one day I decided to take a pic of it...

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Old April 12th, 2005, 06:05 AM   #44
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The pics havent come thru. Pity, wanted to see the planes of Dubrovnik Airlines and Adriatic Air.
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Old April 12th, 2005, 06:26 AM   #45
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Much better.
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Cute squirrel Mick! LOL
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Old April 12th, 2005, 11:49 AM   #47
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Well, I didn'd know we have 5 airliners! Great!
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Nice pics of squirrel, Mic! I only have cockroachs in my apartment
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Old April 12th, 2005, 05:27 PM   #49
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Nice pics of squirrel, Mic! I only have cockroachs in my apartment
lol, lmao,

I almost asked you take pics -
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Nice pics of squirrel, Mic! I only have cockroachs in my apartment
I have them and also spiders everywhere. I could spend the whole year killing them and still get nowhere. I really hate the spiders that are almost as big as your hand. They always come in after it rains
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Mick, dont forget the Croatian Infrastructure thread in Euroscrapers. Thats one place to update things as well.
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Old April 14th, 2005, 09:56 PM   #52
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I have them and also spiders everywhere. I could spend the whole year killing them and still get nowhere. I really hate the spiders that are almost as big as your hand. They always come in after it rains
yack, I hate spiders, as a kid I would catch them and take there legs or put 2 spiders on same web and let them fight it off (very poisonous ones large with yellow back and white and black stripes and ones with cross), or absolute laugh I would put them in nest of yellow ants,... lol

My neighbour is way scared of spiders, I mean she would come knocking at 12 (late at night) if she seen even smallest of the small spiders in her flat, I often have to move about 2thirds of her flat to find the culprit, lol...

And than she won't sleep in her flat and sleeps in my second guest bedroom, lol, ridicules to the point I asked her to take hypnosis.

I know you have like red backs and funnel web spiders which are very poisonous, could kill, and other are really big ones hand sized but are not so dangerous, more like what we call here house spiders which hunt mites and small insects.


Sorry to change the subject any news on Croatian airports front, there was an article recently about Dubrovnik Airport getting expanded and getting sky bridges, anyone knows about this story, anyone from Dubrovnik here ?

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Old April 15th, 2005, 04:55 AM   #53
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yack, I hate spiders, as a kid I would catch them and take there legs or put 2 spiders on same net and let them fight it off (very poisonous ones large with yellow back and white and black stripes and ones with cross), or absolute laugh I would put them in nest of yellow ants,... lol

My neighbour is way scared of spiders, I mean she would come knocking at 12 (late at night) if she seen even smallest of the small spiders in her flat, I often have to move about 2thirds of her flat to find the culprit, lol...

And than she want sleep in her flat and sleeps in my second guest bedroom, lol, ridicules the point I asked her to take hypnosis.

I know you have like red backs and funnel web spiders which are very poisonous could kill, and other are really big ones hand sized but are not so dangerous, more like what we call here house spiders which hunt mites and small insects.


Sorry to change the subject any news on Croatian airports front, there was an article recently about Dubrovnik Airport getting expanded and getting sky bridges, anyone knows about this story, anyone from Dubrovnik here ?
The Huntsman is the large harmless spider but its size scares the shit out of most people. I have a bad habit of leaving my car parked outside with the windows open to which I got the nastiest surprise in my life one morning.

Racing to work one morning I noticed a Huntsman spider from the corner of my eye running across the car dashboard. My jaw dropped and I begged for it to not jump onto the sterring column and it did ..... down onto my leg.

I slammed on the brakes and went to a screeching stop and jumped out screaming like a lunatic. Lucky no cars were driving behind me I spent ages trying to coax it out of the car which was sitting in the middle of the street. LMAO

Anyway ...... I havent heard anything further on any airports being upgraded.

There was an article in Vecernji List about the planned 2nd runway for Zagreb airport. It was just a study about the possibility and it mentioned that a lot of housing in a nearby suburb would have to get knocked down as it would be too close to the runway. Here is the link, let me know if you need anything clarified .......

http://www.vecernji-list.hr/newsroom...63631/index.do
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Old April 15th, 2005, 05:37 AM   #54
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The Huntsman is the large harmless spider but its size scares the shit out of most people. I have a bad habit of leaving my car parked outside with the windows open to which I got the nastiest surprise in my life one morning.

Racing to work one morning I noticed a Huntsman spider from the corner of my eye running across the car dashboard. My jaw dropped and I begged for it to not jump onto the sterring column and it did ..... down onto my leg.

I slammed on the brakes and went to a screeching stop and jumped out screaming like a lunatic. Lucky no cars were driving behind me I spent ages trying to coax it out of the car which was sitting in the middle of the street. LMAO

Anyway ...... I havent heard anything further on any airports being upgraded.

There was an article in Vecernji List about the planned 2nd runway for Zagreb airport. It was just a study about the possibility and it mentioned that a lot of housing in a nearby suburb would have to get knocked down as it would be too close to the runway. Here is the link, let me know if you need anything clarified .......

http://www.vecernji-list.hr/newsroom...63631/index.do


lol, yhea that's one, seen it when I was in ozz, my m8 took it and handled it, put as a joke on one of our friends, he killed it immediately, throw it on a ground and poor think died, well to make sure he jumped on it like 50 times on it, lol, other m8' was saying it is harmless and friend replied if I do your girlfriend in a shower it would be harmless, lol


Anyways about second runway let me read first , and yes from pics you can ce let me show it to you, ...





would need to be knocked down, and all cleared for support structures, it should have never been allowed for the houses to be built so close to the airport in first place...

anyways it is probably best option to knock down all this places, and in return house them somewhere more appropriate.

Project such as this would be costly about 15 million SU$ for a runway and about another 15 million for apron and taxiway. But As Croatian Government has 500 million Euros left for all Airports in Croatia (only 25million so far spent of original 525 million) I think it is feasible for the project to be finished by 2009/10.

New terminal should be also complete by May 2008 and it will be 200 million$ project not 125 million as first thought out in 2001.

Primarily cose Zagreb 2nd terminal will have capacity of 8-10 million passengers and current terminal has max capacity of 2 million and this s stretching it by extreme, you can ce how small the terminal is...
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Ok guys, air update, it looks like Airlines in Croatia sprung out like mushrooms after the rain, new airline has just been lunched, it is called Sun Adria and atm it has only one aircraft Fokker 100.

Sun Adria is based in Zagreb, and operate primarily Air Charter services during summer months and scheduled flights during winter. Sun Adria is part of Trade Air, which is also based in Zagreb.

Croatia Airlines has now 3 other domestic airlines in competition, at least for charter services,.

Sun Adria - Based in Zagreb - (1Fokker 100 - 108 passengers, 3 Let 410 - 19 passengers)
Dubrovnik Airlines - Based in Dubrovnik - (2MD82 - 166 passengers)
Air Adriatic - Based in Pula - (2 MD81, 4MD82 - 166 Passengers)

North Adria Airways - based in Rijeka, (2 Lets 410 - 24 passengers)
Sun Adria - Based in Zagreb - (1Fokker 100 - 108 passengers)
Dubrovnik Airlines - Based in Dubrovnik - (2MD82 - 166 passengers)
Adriatic Air - Based in Pula - (6MD82 - 166 Passengers)




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Those houses in the vicinity of the proposed second runway were illegally built so they cannot argue if the bulldozers come. As you may be aware the Croatian government has taken a hard handed approach to anything illegally built without local council approval. If they are infringing on the proposed second runway then they will simply be knocked down.

I would love it if we could somehow get more info on the new Zagreb Airport. Its of those elusive projects almost impossible to dig up some info.
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Those houses in the vicinity of the proposed second runway were illegally built so they cannot argue if the bulldozers come. As you may be aware the Croatian government has taken a hard handed approach to anything illegally built without local council approval. If they are infringing on the proposed second runway then they will simply be knocked down.

I would love it if we could somehow get more info on the new Zagreb Airport. Its of those elusive projects almost impossible to dig up some info.


hope LF has some time and takes pics one of these days...

In regards to illegal housing, I agree but ppl must go somewhere I think 700-800 families will need some alternate accommodation, say large new-built housing few kilometres away in V Gorica or Busin. Cost of this relocation could be in excess of 40million Euros - someone must pay for this I guess, it would partly be paid by ppl who are being evicted...

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New Airport Terminal to be built in Zagreb.
Zagreb Airport is to receive new terminal capacity up to10 million passengers.
New terminal to be built on present land occupied by Air Force Base, international tenders for new terminal will be invited for the design of new terminal with specification for minimum of 12-15 Air bridges (gates) and minimum capacity of terminal in excess of 8 million passengers.


Zagreb Airport currently handles an traffic of 1.5 million passengers in its small and unsophisticated terminal which currently can't handle more passenger numbers, in 1990 terminal handled maximum capacity of 2 million passengers and it was evident way than new terminal was required. War halted any future plans of expansion.



In 1997 Zagreb Airport got green light from Croatian Government to make study for new airport terminal in vicinity of present terminal and Dutch firm NACO - http://www.naco.nl/ which specialises with airport infrastructure has completed an study in 1997 which called for smaller terminal of 4.5 million passengers with 11 Air bridges.

This plans have now been revised and a terminal of 8 million passenger capacity is required, terminal with 15/16 air bridges and at least 40 check in desks will be a minimum requirement.


Croatian Airlines new Hanger Facilities, and NACO planed New airport terminal - now obsolete.



New Airport Terminal is excepted to cost 1Bn HRK (178.5 million US$) and construction is expected to start in early March/April 2006. It is excepted the terminal will have areas for only EU passengers and all other passengers will use separate check in system, primarily to comply with EU Maastricht and Schengen Agreements as to speed up passenger processing and increase security at the airport. Croatia is excepted to join EU in 2008 or January 1st. 2009 at the latest.

2nd Airport runway is also planed and construction of 3.5km x55m runway is excepted to start sometimes in 2007 and to be complete in 2009. New Cargo terminal 12 000 square meters is also planed and construction if this facilities is excepted to start sometimes in 2008.

Croatian Airlines facilities at the Airport will also expand and new Hanger 124x84m is planed and is construction is excepted to start in 2008 along with cargo terminal.

Zagreb Airport already got brand new Air Traffic control. In all investment at new Airport at Zagreb will cost no less than 2Bn. HRK or 357million US$ when completed.

Croatian Government is paying for 55% of all cost and Zagreb Airport will required to raise rest of the funds with international or domestic lenders.



New Air traffic Control at Zagreb Airport.

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Cool bananas Mick!
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lol, thanx you are welcomed, glad to be of assistance...
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