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Old April 27th, 2015, 10:17 PM   #1
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VISION: Edison Tower - New York









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TOWERPLANTS™

The idea
Facing an ever-growing world population going along with less and less energetic resources and tremendous ecological decline, Frank Jendrusch had already in the early Nineties the idea of constructing vertical cities with autonomic energy supply. Especially in the Middle and Far East, there is an emerging trend to build more and more higher and greater buildings be it for reasons of prestige or in order to satisfy the growing demand for living and working space.

A new dimension
TOWERPLANTS™ are buildings in the centre of metropolitan areas which form due to their function, size and height an own city centre, so to say a vertical city. At the same time they possess – like conventional "horizontal" cities - their own infrastructure with shopping, recreation and medical facilities, gastronomy, theatres, schools, exhibition spaces for cultural purposes and parks. The whole city is concentrated in a single building which offers space for up to 400 floors and may therefore reach a height of up to 1.600 metres. This is two times higher than the Burj Kalifa the so far highest building in the world.

Autonomic energy supply
Nowadays, extreme skyscrapers have only a limited profitability due to their immense energy demand. Therefore, the major target while developing TOWERPLANTS™ was to allocate independent environmentally sustainable energy sources: Upwind power plants transform the enormous ascending wind force and heat rejection via turbine engines into electric power. Additionally, the photovoltaic facade of the building produces further electrical energy. The necessarily very deep fundaments of the TOWERPLANTS™ will generate geothermic hot water for the heating and cooling of the water supply. These three renewable energy sources are able to produce - depending of the actual size of the TOWERPLANTS™ - between 500 and 2.000 megawatt power. As this system will generate more energy power than it can consume the energy supply will be free for the residents.

Logistics and safety
Also the traffic routing is similar to the one of a conventional major city – but just in a vertical direction! The traffic volume will be handled by elevators with pressurized cabins being powered by linear engines serving to reach the respective Sky-Lobby™ redirecting to the desired floor. This cable free system will run much faster and more flexibly than conventional systems. The Skylift™ is being developed in cooperation with ThyssenKrupp. The development of TOWERPLANTS™ will set completely new standards regarding safety technology, fire protection and avoidance of noise and vibration emissions. This innovative process engineering guarantees a smooth and frictionless operation of this highly complex mega system.
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MAGNETICALLY LEVITATING ELEVATORS COULD RESHAPE SKYLINES
THEY GO UP, DOWN, AND ALL AROUND

By Loren Grush Posted April 14, 2015


With the debut of passenger elevators some 150 years ago, cities were forever changed. Freed from the tyranny of stairwells, architects built as high as they liked. That is, until they ran into another barrier: the weight of steel cables. A new elevator design from German company ThyssenKrupp may solve that problem by trading cables for tracks that employ magnetic levitation, or maglev. Unconstrained by a linear pulley system, the cars--to be tested in Germany next year--will travel higher and in new directions, moving horizontally and even diagonally. The system, called Multi, may help make possible buildings of unprecedented size and energy efficiency, like this conceptual Edison Tower. Patrick Bass, CEO of ThyssenKrupp North America, says supertall, power-producing skyscrapers could help accommodate booming urbanization.

1. Lofty Design

The Edison Tower, dreamed up by German developer Frank Jendrusch, will reach nearly 4,300 feet--about four-fifths of a mile. The idea is to create an all-in-one space with residences, offices, shopping, and recreation. Jendrusch aims to build the tower by 2030.

2. Topping Out

After about 2,000 feet, the cables in a standard elevator can’t support both the car and their own weight, so passengers must switch to a new one. Multi will run 4,200 feet, direct from ground floor to observation deck.

3. Magnetic Pull

Maglev will enable Multi to “float” to its destination. Magnets in the car will repel opposing magnets along the track, causing the car to hover. A separate set of coils along the track will push and pull the car in its intended direction.

4. Range of motion

Multi is far more nimble than a pulley system. To change orientation, the section of rail carrying the elevator car will rotate, shifting the direction of the moving magnetic field.

5. Outdoors In

All that additional space will allow for creative interior designs, like parks.

6. Positive Energy

With its unique star shape, the core of the Edison Tower will act similarly to a solar updraft tower, using the flow of hot air to turn internal turbines. Along with photovoltaics, it’ll produce power for the building.

7. Room To Grow

Up to 20 percent of any high-rise building is consumed by elevator space. ThyssenKrupp estimates that Multi could reduce the elevator footprint in future buildings by up to 50 percent.

8. Sprawling Footprint

The building will cover nearly one square mile.
This article was originally published in the May 2015 issue of Popular Science, under the title "An Elevator That Will Reshape Skylines.”
http://www.popsci.com/elevator-will-reshape-skylines
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Old April 27th, 2015, 10:22 PM   #2
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yeah... no. never going to happen.

> NEW YORK | Edison Tower | 1310m | 4298ft | 296 fl | VISION
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Old April 27th, 2015, 10:26 PM   #3
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this is too hysterical.
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Old April 27th, 2015, 10:27 PM   #4
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I agree that this is an extremely ambitious project and I too have doubts whether this will be eventually be built. However it was proposed by a developer and itps special elevator technology is already in the prototype stages, so I do think this is a proposal, not a vision
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Old April 27th, 2015, 10:27 PM   #5
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seems legit...


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Old April 27th, 2015, 10:32 PM   #6
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April fools day is over 3 weeks ago Kanto.
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Old April 27th, 2015, 10:34 PM   #7
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I take it this is a subtle request for a VISION section.
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Old April 27th, 2015, 10:37 PM   #8
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April fools day is over 3 weeks ago Kanto.
Trust me, I am just as skeptical as you are. But a proposal is a proposal, no matter how improbable it might seem (and I agree that this does seem improbable)
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Old April 27th, 2015, 10:46 PM   #9
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saw this tower before. it was added on SSP a bit ago and i was interested and looked at the proposal on their website. it's a really nice vision. and an overkill one with that, we are going back to old tokyo vertical city levels of crazyness it looks like.
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Old April 27th, 2015, 11:26 PM   #10
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Overindulgent and overkill. I'm sure the sustainability ideas are sound, but they really need to work on the aesthetics. If you are going to have something that massive...it better look spectacular and not look like a humongous monolith. It also seems a little arrogant having it on its own island in the middle of the Hudson. An interesting idea, but I think this is way to much of a leap from something like the Burj or Kingdom to this!
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Old April 28th, 2015, 12:26 AM   #11
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This is just a vision.

I am not sure, but it seems to be "proposed" to be built on Governors Island. You can't have a serious proposal if you don't even own the land where you are proposing it. It is virtually imposible that they give up the island, an historical site and national monument dependant both of the City and State of New York and the Federal Government, already being developed as a public park, to build this. If they are "proposing" it on a new island, it is equally improbable since they won't give permission for a new island on the New York Bay or the Hudson, because of the ecological consequences (and again, they don't own the land, or the water, in this case)

This is not more than an advertising to show wath they supposedly could do. They might or might not ending up building something like this, somewhere, but certainly, not this, not there.
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Old April 28th, 2015, 12:52 AM   #12
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If you look really closely at the renders you'll notice how this is never going to happen.

(which is a good thing)
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Old April 28th, 2015, 04:01 AM   #13
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Lightyears from being a serious proposal. Even SkyCity seems more likely to be build
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Old April 28th, 2015, 04:13 AM   #14
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Edison? Won't work ... should be named Tesla Tower.

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Old April 28th, 2015, 04:16 AM   #15
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I'll take "Things that will never happen" for $500, Alex.
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I really appreciate vision and daring but this is TOO much, at least for the near future. But it's not an insane idea, just nowhere near practical enough at the moment. New York City in 2,300, 2,400 A.D.? Then we might be able to consider it more likely. There could well be visionary buildings actually built, even maybe a 2,000 ft megatall not too far in the future but this is so massive I just don't see how logistically we're anywhere close to this being possible in our lifetime, or even next few generations.
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Old April 28th, 2015, 07:46 AM   #17
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Oh kanto I thought you had mellowed out and left your eccentricities behind.
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Old April 28th, 2015, 08:10 AM   #18
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The idea is interesting, no doubt. But it'll stay just a vision, so this thread will be moved.
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Old April 28th, 2015, 08:20 AM   #19
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Looks like a modernized Ryugyong Hotel
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Old April 28th, 2015, 09:00 AM   #20
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Sorry, but the island is a park now so It will never happen. Also, FAA limits. Remember those? That is just the beginning of the problems with this funny proposal. For example, first up, we must examine the problems of bird collisions for instance, that would surely be a deal breaker, lol!

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