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Old May 19th, 2015, 10:59 PM   #1
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Historical Facade Re-Use/Adaptation/Preservation

I'm not an opponent of development, nor do I loathe all super-tall modern skyscrapers, however when they happen at the expense of a beautiful historical (or even just quaint and old) buildings, it aggravates me to no end! for everyone who has been following the development along West 57th street in New York, I think that the development is fine, good for the city even. But why must these developers destroy the historical buildings!?

While preserving the old building in its entirety would be the ideal, I think that preserving the Facade, while integrating it into a modern structure is a reasonable compromise.

In this thread I'm trying to compile a visual lexicon of well integrated facades into modern buildings. I'll start off with a few now, and please share some that you know of!







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Old May 19th, 2015, 11:51 PM   #2
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The Stock Exchange in Toronto, Canada





Although it's more like they built a tower over it. The original 1930s interiors are still intact.
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Hearst Tower, NYC

Probably the most famous example


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Old July 6th, 2015, 08:01 PM   #4
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When this is done, the building in question usually ends up looking absolutely ridiculous. I only think that this acceptable when it's the base is used, and the base only, I. e the Hearst Tower. Some of the other examples on here just look awkward.
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Old July 6th, 2015, 08:36 PM   #5
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The Lloyds building in London apparently preserves an old facade, though not actually incorporated.



There is also a classical room, the Adam Room, moved to within the skyscraper...



And a bell within a classical structure...



The skyscraper apes the aesthetic of an oil refinery, which doesn't sit well with neoclassical refinement...



https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lloyd's_of_London
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The Lloyds building in London apparently preserves an old facade, though not actually incorporated.

OMG, that is such a beautiful neoclassic facade. Lovely.
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Old July 6th, 2015, 08:45 PM   #7
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This, UCL student accommodation building,, that (badly) incorporates an old facade was nominated for the Carbunkle Cup, which goes to the worst new building in Britain.





http://www.theguardian.com/artanddes...nt-housing-ucl
http://www.dezeen.com/2013/08/29/car...ner-announced/

There is no relationship between the new building and the facade. The floors and windows don't line up. It's a mess.
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The classical exterior looks far better than the otherwise modernist one imo
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Here are some more horrible mutilations... Would it kill them to make the floor heights and windows line up?







I call this civic architorture.

More can be seen at the link below (where the above buildings are identified). Good article, actually...

http://www.theguardian.com/artanddes...oric-buildings

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This one isn't quite as bad... 67 Lombard street, London.



http://www.skyscrapercity.com/showth...246165&page=37
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Horrendous! Glasshouse Hotel, Edinburgh.



http://www.edinburgharchitecture.co.uk/glasshouse-hotel
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Art Gallery of Ontario, Canada. Not sure if it's strictly facade-retention, but it certainly provides a contrast, encapsulating the aesthetic decline of the West...



http://www.architravel.com/architrav...s/gehry-frank/
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The Spires shopping centre, High Barnet, incorporating towers from a Methodist church demolished in the 1980s.





The 80s structure was recently removed but the spired retained in a new design for the shopping centre, though there were fears they would be demolished...


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Hearst Tower, NYC
Probably the most famous example
In my opinion this looks better like this, than if these were two separate buildings side by side. I really don't like when a modern structure is build right next to a classic one. They always clash, but like this, one on top of the other, it's amazing.

Walking at street level you get to see the details of the classic building, while from the distance the majesty of the tower. Huge towers don't look good from up close. They are much more inspiring from a distance, while detailed ornate facades look unimpressive from far, but can be stunning up close. So this is the perfect combination. We need MORE MORE MORE of this in all our cities. Classic facades at street level, even new built, with massive towers above. Brilliant!
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It truly is disgraceful how they've violated and degraded some beautiful buildings to incorporate them into something which is essentially vulgar. This thread has taught me that by doing this, in the majority of cases, the results will be absolutely hideous.
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Looks kitschy as hell.

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A church facade with a block of flats behind it in Glasgow...


http://www.scotcities.com/cathcart/q...k_churches.htm



http://warmemscot.s4.bizhat.com/warm...topic6163.html

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Looks kitschy as hell.

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It looks cheap and nasty, and unimaginative. The 1980s one with the curved front was better, at least it had some details, and some symmetry.
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It truly is disgraceful how they've violated and degraded some beautiful buildings to incorporate them into something which is essentially vulgar. This thread has taught me that by doing this, in the majority of cases, the results will be absolutely hideous.
Yes, they should just demolish them and be done with it.
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