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Old May 21st, 2015, 07:18 AM   #1
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MISC | Rail line colours - should they be politically correct?

About cities assigning colors to rail lines, I would like to know, does anyone think they should be politically correct based on the areas that they serve?

I know that no city has a "Black Line" nor a "White Line", and I can see why.

I personally think cities should try their best if possible to make careful consideration on how each line gets assigned its color. I personally think if possible a "Yellow Line" should not serve an Asian area, a "Red Line" should not serve an Indian Reservation, and a "Brown Line" should not serve a Hispanic area.

In addition, I am also against the idea of a "Pink Line" being assigned to a line that serves a gay community. While some gays are not offended by the color pink and a few would even would like a "Pink Line" serving their community, I personally think that assigning the color pink to a gay community promotes gay stereotypes, since very few men who actually like or wear pink are actually gay. I am glad that Chicago's Pink Line doesn't serve the city's two gay communities.

What does anyone here think?
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Old May 21st, 2015, 09:04 AM   #2
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How stupid. Also, the Northern line in London is a black line.

I honestly think that only the most sensitive people would be offended about a line colour on a map. That is just PC gone absolutely mad.
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Old May 21st, 2015, 09:14 AM   #3
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That's Oxpoo. Sorry, but which colours will we accept then? Yellow could offend asians, red could offend native americans, orange could offend non-white south africans, blue could offend alcoholics, pink could offend gays, brown could be seen as nazi,...
There is still so much discrimination today and line colours are definitely not part of the problem.
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Old May 21st, 2015, 12:48 PM   #4
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Old May 21st, 2015, 03:09 PM   #5
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Railways are racist, get over it.
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Old May 21st, 2015, 05:25 PM   #6
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This topic offends me.
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Old May 21st, 2015, 05:28 PM   #7
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How stupid. Also, the Northern line in London is a black line.
But unlike in many North American cities, the colors are not used to name the line. Northern line is not called Black line.
The black is just a color to disassociate the line on the map.

The line 1 of Paris metro is yellow but this is just a color for the map, nobody except for some tourists call it yellow line.
If you ask a parisian about the yellow line, he will not understand. The name is line 1.
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Old May 21st, 2015, 05:43 PM   #8
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The reason why I bring this up is due to the Asian-American residents in Atlanta getting offended by the "Yellow Line", which is why it was renamed the "Gold Line". I would like to know if you think other cities should due the same.
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Are Americans this sensitive?
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Old May 21st, 2015, 06:46 PM   #10
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The whole concept of naming lines after colors is absolutely banal. Name them after the areas or corridors they serve.
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Old May 21st, 2015, 11:51 PM   #11
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The reason why I bring this up is due to the Asian-American residents in Atlanta getting offended by the "Yellow Line", which is why it was renamed the "Gold Line". I would like to know if you think other cities should due the same.
No. It's just a train line and a colour attached to it to separate other lines and their routes. Some cities just name them as "Line 1" or "Train A" or depending on the area, "Bakerloo" is a combination of Baker Street and Waterloo.

How many people were actually offended? Because being over sensitive on the colour of a line is just pathetic.
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Old May 21st, 2015, 11:53 PM   #12
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How many people were actually offended? Because being over sensitive on the colour of a line is just pathetic.
I would say a lot, because those complaints made national news at the time.
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Old May 22nd, 2015, 12:18 AM   #13
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In my opinion, it depends of how is called the line, not the color.
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Old May 22nd, 2015, 12:43 AM   #14
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well lines shouldn't be named after colours anyway. Lines named after colours or by name such as London Underground's central line discriminate against colour blind people. All lines should be numbered to make it fair for all and we can also get away from the hole racist thing.
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Old May 22nd, 2015, 02:13 AM   #15
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I would admit that my color selections for my dream light rail and streetcar system for the Phoenix area were intentionally assigned to be politically correct.

My Brown Line (which would serve Scottsdale, Tempe, and Chandler) was intentionally routed to avoid Hispanic areas.

My system also lacks a Yellow Line; I used Gold Line like MARTA in Atlanta, and part of my Gold Line would serve the Dobson corridor which has a significant Asian population.

While the Phoenix metro area doesn't really have any concentrated gay neighborhoods, I routed the Pink Line mostly through politically conservative areas (most of Chandler and all of Gilbert and east Mesa), which probably have lower than average gay populations due to the local politics. If any Phoenix metro area city would be described as gay-friendly it would probably be Tempe, which in my system would be served by every line except for the Pink and Silver Lines, with one line (the Green Line aka Tempe Streetcar) being entirely located within the city.
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I would say a lot, because those complaints made national news at the time.
Making national news does not necessarily have much to do with the number of complaints.


Making national news generally has more to do with how little other news there is, or how much distraction is needed from the news there is.
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Old May 22nd, 2015, 05:55 AM   #17
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Transit agencies just want people to use trains.

They are not fighting a culture war.

If changing the name of the Yellow Line to the Gold line makes some people leave them alone they'll do it. Or whatever.
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Old May 22nd, 2015, 02:44 PM   #18
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Pink Jazz: Your comments are racist. You are associating colours with races.

A non racist person wouldn't think that.

By defining city areas by race, you are being racist.

In London, the Northern line is Black in colour, it's absolutely ludicrous to consider this colour choice as racist.

The 'goldline' , is this predudice against pensioners for example. The Green Line, maybe that's anti ecology.
How about the red line, all those dam communists......

And your name 'Pink Jazz' lets not go there.
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Old May 22nd, 2015, 06:31 PM   #19
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Well... This whole debate is stupid. If you really think the colour of a underground line is racist you have no idea whatsoever what racism really is and how bad it can get.
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Old May 22nd, 2015, 07:48 PM   #20
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Perhaps colors can be substituted with elements or objects that represent the colors:
  • Red Line = Fire Line
  • Blue Line = Water Line
  • Green Line = Grass Line
  • Yellow/Gold Line = Lightning Line
  • Orange Line = Carrot Line
  • Purple Line = Grape Line
  • Pink Line = Jazz Line
  • Brown Line = Earth Line
  • Silver Line = Steel Line

That way nobody gets offended.
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