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Old September 14th, 2009, 05:55 PM   #801
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Moscow's current skyline is better...

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Old September 14th, 2009, 07:44 PM   #802
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HA_HA Backwards and dated? Good luck to learn geography... Commie blocks aren't charming, most of them are ugly, thats true, but in Moscow commie blocks are only in sleeping quarters, in the center there are a lot of great and beautiful houses, some of then were built in 14th century... And in Moscow very old houses stay nearby new modern houses... I'm not live in Moscow, but i was there and i know what i say...
Geography? You think I donīt know where Moscow is? I donīt even know how that is relevant here?

Anyway, Moscow is quite a backwards place compared to most European cities. Russia has always been more backwards than the rest of Europe, and it will continue to be that for a very long time. Cities in Western Europe are healthier than Moscow in every way.
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Old September 14th, 2009, 08:23 PM   #803
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Ok, learn history, not geography
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Old September 14th, 2009, 08:45 PM   #804
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Ok, learn history, not geography
Small isolated population... seems like a perfect breeding ground for inherent mental illnesses.
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Old September 14th, 2009, 09:35 PM   #805
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Cities in Finland may be healthier, but they are so dull. Only native people can live in these booooooooring cities...
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Old September 14th, 2009, 10:01 PM   #806
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I am a student of history so stfu

Historically Russia has always been the backwater of Europe. So was Finland until the mid 20th century.

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Small isolated population... seems like a perfect breeding ground for inherent mental illnesses.
Awww..This small country Iīm living in is at least wealthy, organised, technologically adavanced and sivilised.

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Cities in Finland may be healthier, but they are so dull. Only native people can live in these booooooooring cities...
I take it you have been to Finland? Anyway, Finnish cities arenīt too exciting architecturally (bar Helsinki), but Russian cities arenīt exactly known for their beauty either (except St Petersburg) are they? I guess high crime rates, filth and poverty make them more exciting though.
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Old September 14th, 2009, 10:14 PM   #807
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Mr Bricks, why do you feel the need to provoke others and insult other countries, not to mention totally derailing this interesting topic?

You should learn some manners
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Old September 14th, 2009, 10:36 PM   #808
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Awww..This small country Iīm living in is at least wealthy, organised, technologically adavanced and sivilised.
You don't behave civilized.

EDIT: By the way, being that far-left that I am, I'm always happy when I see a non-European country, such as Finland and Russia, achieve success.

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Old September 14th, 2009, 10:47 PM   #809
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Iīm sorry, but I just corrected someone who thought that "Moscow is the most futuristic city in Europe" which is untrue and ridiculous. How is that wrong? I was the one who was being attacked and called mentally ill etc.
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Old September 14th, 2009, 10:54 PM   #810
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Iīm sorry, but I just corrected someone who thought that "Moscow is the most futuristic city in Europe" which is untrue and ridiculous. How is that wrong? I was the one who was being attacked and called mentally ill etc.
I'm sorry.

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Old September 14th, 2009, 11:42 PM   #811
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Iīm sorry, but I just corrected someone who thought that "Moscow is the most futuristic city in Europe" which is untrue and ridiculous. How is that wrong? I was the one who was being attacked and called mentally ill etc.
You should drop this holier than thou attitude and respect other people's opinions. Your personal opinion is neither true nor ultimately correct - its just your own opinion which can be quite different from that of others

Stop insulting whole countries on the basis of a personal disagreement with a single forumer
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Old September 15th, 2009, 12:13 AM   #812
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You should drop this holier than thou attitude and respect other people's opinions. Your personal opinion is neither true nor ultimately correct - its just your own opinion which can be quite different from that of others

Stop insulting whole countries on the basis of a personal disagreement with a single forumer
You know disagreeing with someone is the same as not "respecting other peopleīs opinions". I disagree with you therefore I donīt respect your opinion at all. Furthermore Moscow is far from the most futuristic city in Europe, how could anyone come to that conclusion?

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Old September 15th, 2009, 12:21 AM   #813
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You know disagreeing with someone is the same as not "respecting other peopleīs opinions".
Neither is it the same as making broader generalized insults at an entire nation just because of your limited knowledge
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Neither is it the same as making broader generalized insults at an entire nation just because of your limited knowledge
Definitely, Russia's crawling with architectural masterpieces. They're just scattered due to the country's enormous size, that's all. In my library, the book "The History of Russian Architecture" is the fattest book about a national architecture - it's in the range of 600 pages. But you could still notice the author's bias towards the North-Western Siberian architecture. Pskov is given limited photographic coverage. I wonder why? It lies in the same spiritual sphere as the other Northern stone architecture of XVI'th century of which the author is very fond of.
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Old September 15th, 2009, 07:24 AM   #815
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Geography? You think I donīt know where Moscow is? I donīt even know how that is relevant here?

Anyway, Moscow is quite a backwards place compared to most European cities. Russia has always been more backwards than the rest of Europe, and it will continue to be that for a very long time. Cities in Western Europe are healthier than Moscow in every way.

Maybe your country is healthy, wealthy and so on, but people in this country are most uncivilized, impolite and intolerable, and very very disrespectful. Simple boors.Seems they are not taught good manners there at all in their schools. So what is better?
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Huh? I said two things; Moscow is not the most futuristic city in Europe. Most sensible people would agree with me on this. Secondly I said Russia has always been behind Europe, which is also true. How am I ignorant?

I am sure there are lots of beautiful buildings in Russia, but as ainttelling already pointed out theyīre scattered over an enormous area. Apart from St Petersburg (which I hear is an architectural wonder) most Russian cities would look ugly to most Europeans.

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Maybe your country is healthy, wealthy and so on, but people in this country are most uncivilized, impolite and intolerable, and very very disrespectful. Simple boors.Seems they are not taught good manners there at all in their schools. So what is better?
Actually, from what Iīve heard from tourists Finns are exceptionally friendly, polite and helpful. However Finnish people arenīt always that good at chit chatting about the weather etc.
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Huh? I said two things; Moscow is not the most futuristic city in Europe. Most sensible people would agree with me on this. Secondly I said Russia has always been behind Europe, which is also true. How am I ignorant?

I am sure there are lots of beautiful buildings in Russia, but as ainttelling already pointed out theyīre scattered over an enormous area. Apart from St Petersburg (which I hear is an architectural wonder) most Russian cities would look ugly to most Europeans.



Actually, from what Iīve heard from tourists Finns are exceptionally friendly, polite and helpful. However Finnish people arenīt always that good at chit chatting about the weather etc.
then where do you come from?
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right now you can have a street view of Moscow in a 3D mode. Go to http://maps.yandex.ru/ and find Moscow in their satellite map of the world. The blue highlighted streets are those that enable a 3D mode. There is not any street in Moscow available yet, but quite many of them already and all the streets in the city center. The whole thing is in Russian, but I think you will find your bearings into this stuff pretty quickly.

Look and decide whether one can name this wonderful city the ugliest city in the world as some people, who seem to envy the growth of prosperity and sublimity of this city, call it this way.

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Old September 15th, 2009, 02:52 PM   #819
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^I think the skyscrapers and other projects in Moscow are very cool, and I think that is what makes Russian forumers so damn nationalistic and overly proud that they go on saying things like "Moscow is the most futuristic city in Europe". Europeans tend to be more humble when it comes to picturing their own cities (which are mostly far ahead of Moscow in almost every field).

Btw, what does it matter where Iīm from?
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^I think the skyscrapers and other projects in Moscow are very cool, and I think that is what makes Russian forumers so damn nationalistic and overly proud that they go on saying things like "Moscow is the most futuristic city in Europe". Europeans tend to be more humble when it comes to picturing their own cities (which are mostly far ahead of Moscow in almost every field).

Btw, what does it matter where Iīm from?
I would like to know where one can still regard Russia a backward country.

The reason is that some Russians do proud themselves upon their country is that they have understood finally is that Russia is not that backward and gloomy as we were told for so many years during the socialism, that some projects and things in Russia are not worse than in Western Europe and maybe even better. It will pass with the time. Yet, I agree that Russia is not that wealthy and prosperous as other countries in Europe and it has still a huge way to go, but the fact that we can do it, we are doing it adds them some enthusiasm. As I have already told it will pass with the time.

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^ Europeans tend to be more humble when it comes to picturing their own cities (which are mostly far ahead of Moscow in almost every field).
Europe has been free in their free speech for even centuries, Russia only for 18 years.So, don't be too hard on the Russian on this matter.Pretty soon they will catch up with the rest of Europe.

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