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Old May 29th, 2015, 06:15 PM   #21
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Number of floors will be 76 for Forte Tower 1 (6 Podium + 70 Regular Floors) and 56 for Forte Tower 2 (6 Podium + 50 Regular Floors)

Source: http://www.gulfconstructiononline.com/news/story/4174

regarding the height there is still no official release whether this is a supertall (300m+) or not.

There are a couple of residential buildings with similiar number of floors in Dubai which can be used as a reference (between 80 and 70 floors):
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Name                              Height    Floors
D1 Tower		          284m      80	
Ahmed Abdul Rahim Al Attar Tower  342m      76
Sulafa Tower		          288m	    76
Al Habtoor City Tower 1		  300m	    74
Al Habtoor City Tower 2		  300m      74
Cayan Tower		          306.4m    73
Marina Pinnacle		          280m	    73
HHHR Tower		          317.6m    72
The Atrium		          277.6m    70
Considering no/very small crown on Forte these are the best references:
Code:
Name                              Height    Floors
Sulafa Tower		          288m	    76
Al Habtoor City Tower 1		  300m	    74
Al Habtoor City Tower 2		  300m      74
Cayan Tower		          306.4m    73
Marina Pinnacle		          280m	    73
Depending on floor height the chances are good this is a residential supertall with exactly or slightly over 300m, but it might also turn out to be 280m/290m and thus being only a skyscraper.
Let's not forget that this building has a very tall podium. It says 6 floors in the article but the renders are showing 11 floors from the ground to the pool deck. Newspapers do oftenly count floors differently than we do here at SSC.
There is another Emaar project with such a tall podium - Fountain Views. The main tower has 11 podium floors + 65 reg. floors = 76 f and will be 329m tall.
Considering this, it's fair to assume Forte I will be a supertall too.
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Old May 29th, 2015, 10:14 PM   #22
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Well, in this render I can't even count up to 7 floors..
Which render did you mean, where you saw a podium with 11 floors? Don' forget, that podium floors may have a way higher ceiling than normal residential floors.
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Old May 29th, 2015, 10:55 PM   #23
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according to Skyscrapercenter the building next to Forte is called the Lofts and is 134.1m, does that help in nailing it down?
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Old May 30th, 2015, 01:43 AM   #24
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I haven't seen this render before, and it really confuses me. As KillerZ said, the tower to the right side is 134m tall. So according to the render, Forte I would barely reach 270m with 81 floors. That makes an average floor height of just 3.33m - that seems very small.

Here is how I'm counting the floors:

Forte by Christopher Rotter, on Flickr
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Old May 30th, 2015, 12:01 PM   #25
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those 11 podium floors seem weird to me, I'd assume it is a mistake in the render or just the facade design of the lower floors, but not actual floors.

If you assume 3.5 meters for regular floors (floor to floor, including slab thickness), about two floors for the crown plus a 10m ground floor and about 5 meters for the other podium floors this is what I get:

1 x 10m = 10m (Ground Floor)
+ 5 x 5m = 25m (Podium Floors)
+ 70 x 3.5m = 245m (Regular Floors)
+ 2 x 3.5m = 7m (Roof/Crown)

= 287m Total
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If the floor to floor height (including slab thickness) is 4 meter the total height increases dramatically:
1 x 10m = 10m (Ground Floor)
+ 5 x 5m = 25m (Podium Floors)
+ 70 x 4m = 280m (Regular Floors)
+ 2 x 4m = 8m (Roof/Crown)

= 323m Total
-> Supertall

Anybody in here who knows what the average floor height in Dubai is for high end residential towers?
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Old May 30th, 2015, 01:23 PM   #26
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Although this guessing game won't take us anywhere but If I wanna guess according to what I see in renders I would believe podium floor is more than 5m each and the tiniest change in regular floor height to 3.55m for example will push it to a supertall height. Emaar sooner or later will clear this confusion out but till now I strongly believe this one will hit the 300m threshold
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Old May 30th, 2015, 01:51 PM   #27
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AltinD talked about activity on site, but isn't it just the access (going under MBR Blvd) to the Opera House site and the equipment that is placed there for the Opera?

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Old May 30th, 2015, 03:19 PM   #28
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those 11 podium floors seem weird to me, I'd assume it is a mistake in the render or just the facade design of the lower floors, but not actual floors.

If you assume 3.5 meters for regular floors (floor to floor, including slab thickness), about two floors for the crown plus a 10m ground floor and about 5 meters for the other podium floors this is what I get:
[..]

If the floor to floor height (including slab thickness) is 4 meter the total height increases dramatically:
[..]

Anybody in here who knows what the average floor height in Dubai is for high end residential towers?
Assuming this is just facade design, it would make the podium floors double-height.

The formula would be:

GF + 2*5x + 70x + Crown ,

assuming 2x for GF and 1.5x for Crown:

= 83.5x

So the minimum floor height for 300m would be

300m / 83.5 = 3.59m

I don't know about many buildings in Dubai, but since I made a Burj model not so long ago, I can tell that it has 3.2m floor height at the lower residential sections and 3.5m at the luxury residential ones. But I'm pretty sure most residential buildings in Dubai exceed 3.5m floor height.
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Old July 23rd, 2015, 11:00 AM   #29
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The Forte towers - number of floors

The Forte Towers project in Dubai Downtown consists of two towers Forte 1 G+71 and Forte 2.
The Forte 2 will be launch later this year.
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Old July 23rd, 2015, 03:06 PM   #30
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Forte in Downtown exterior image

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Thanks, but the render was posted just a few posts above.
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Some type of machine was drilling on the site today, but wasn't close enough to check ... most prob they started with ground work .. will take a pic tomorrow of it
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Looks like they will start with this one soon

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Another update from the local forums says this is just about ready to rise.

Would be awesome if Il Primo started soon after!!
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Another update from the local forums says this is just about ready to rise.

Would be awesome if Il Primo started soon after!!
And Opera Grand and BLVD Heights and BLVD Crescent and The Address Residences Dubai Opera
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I'm not from Frankfurt, so puny 200m-something buildings don't impress me!

Kidding. Seeing the skyline (that still looks pretty patchy on aerials) get crowded will be amazing.
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I'm not from Frankfurt, so puny 200m-something buildings don't impress me!

Kidding. Seeing the skyline (that still looks pretty patchy on aerials) get crowded will be amazing.
here you go a scoop only for you droneriot (DubaiM knows about this already ) ... next to IL Primo and Forte there is another supertall that will have 111 floors (500m+) there is many proposed renders but nothing is 100% confirmed yet .. but the first following render most likely will be the chosen one

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Old June 1st, 2016, 06:36 PM   #39
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The last render looks great and would fit perfectly into there (next to BK).
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next to IL Primo and Forte there is another supertall that will have 111 floors (500m+)
Is this 500m+ tower on the purple area or the green area? Sorry I got really confused there because the 1st design somewhat resembled Opera Grand... BTW is my depiction of the 2nd Il Primo tower correct? This area will become the next tallest block it's crazy.

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