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Old November 25th, 2009, 05:33 PM   #261
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A dummy booking on AF can answer this question. CDG-JNB becomes 1 daily with the beginning of the A380 service.
im going to add to this as it isnt entirely correct...

CDG-JNB will become 10 x weekly with the A380 operating 3 x per week and i a daily B772/B77W...dont forget that due to the altitude and climate the A380 will arrive to JNB in the morning and only depart in the evening once temperature has cooled down with about + - 12 hours sitting at a remote stand therefore CDG -JNB needs 2x A380 to operate on a daily basis

when there next A380 comes in it will become a daily A380 operation and the extra B772/B77W will fall away
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Maybe they believe the national soccer team will attract crowds of French supporters to the World Cup!
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CDG-JNB will become 10 x weekly with the A380 operating 3 x per week
Humm...strange: with only one aircraft, it won't be easy to fly 3x weekly to JFK and 3x weekly to Jo'burg.
AF will have to wait until march when the company will get 3 A380...the Paris-Tokyo route should open in the same time.
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FROM http://corporate.airfrance.com/en/pr...u-23-novembre/

AF A380 service to JNB will begin on feb 3, 2010 and is now bookable
AF990 : CDG - JNB : 23:20 - 10:55 next day
AF995 : JNB - CDG : 20:30 - 6:00 next day

A380 service will be first operated 3 times a week (to JNB : wed, fri, sunday. From JNB : Thur, sat, mon). Other days are 772 and/or 77W. From march 28 A380 service becomes daily.
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Old November 28th, 2009, 05:18 PM   #264
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Here's a couple blog posts that show the inaugural JFK->CDG flight on the A380. http://www.planereality.com/?p=533
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Old November 28th, 2009, 06:21 PM   #265
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This is a great plane to fly with, very spacious.
I've flown it last summer from CDG to SIN and back,
with Singapore Airlines A380-800.
So qiuet smooth fligts.
I would recommend it!!
How many seats are in the A380 of Air France? Much more then the Singapore Airlines configuration?

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Old November 28th, 2009, 07:58 PM   #266
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Air France : 538 seats, Emirates : 489, Singapore : 471, Quantas : 450
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and Air Austral: over 800 seats (all economy)!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
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Old November 29th, 2009, 06:06 PM   #268
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Postcard: Paris.
7 December 2009
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The first Air France Airbus A380 passenger jet arrives at Charles de Gaulle airport near Paris on Oct. 30, 2009
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Read more: http://www.time.com/time/business/ar...#ixzz0YGVao2Mi

Air France's transatlantic A380 service features comfy seats, six bars and an art gallery. But is the Airbus jumbo now a white elephant? Bringing the party back to the skies

By my watch, the takeoff roll for Air France Flight 380 lasted 35 seconds. "Thirty-nine seconds," corrected Laurent Bonnard, a French historian, as we chatted in a lounge area later. Either way, all the planiacs on board Air France's inaugural A380 Airbus New York City--to--Paris flight agreed the takeoff was a thing of beauty. Imagine a 500-ton apartment building with wings stepping into the sky with the quiet grace of a ballet dancer.

The A380 is the largest airliner to ever part with the pavement: it can hold more than 800 passengers in full-sardine-tin configuration, although Air France has mercifully limited the crowd to a mere 538. In preparation for its entry into service in 2007, airports widened runways and hardened taxiways. Its catering trucks rise two stories off the ground to reach the galleys.

France's national carrier got the departure of the European-built jet off with considerable élan. The flight leaving John F. Kennedy Airport was packed with partying Francophiles, journalists and airline junkies. An in-flight band played "C'est Magnifique"; birthdays were celebrated; the Champagne flowed.

Air France is trying to bring the party back to the skies in the critical transatlantic market. There are six bars on the plane, which encourage passengers to mingle (in their own class, of course). On the upper deck, there's even an art gallery of sorts: flat-screen TVs displaying previews of the New York City and Paris cultural scenes.

The A380's standard coach seat is about 5% wider than that of other jets on the route--as good as it's going to get in the claustrophobic calamity that is air travel. Alex Hervet, an A380 design engineer, explained to me that he repositioned the hinge point on the chair back an inch higher so that your knees won't get squeezed when the guy in front of you reclines his seat. But let's not kid ourselves--it's still a coach seat. Business-class travelers, ensconced in their designer flatbed seats, face a full French press of everything that Gallic cuisiniers can throw at them: menus by three-star chef Alain Ducasse, vin extraordinaire and, of course, the smugness of knowing you're not in coach.

Like all new jetliners, the A380 was controversial in conception, delayed in construction and years late on arrival. But none could have predicted that it would fly into the most turbulent economy in the history of aviation. Air France ordered a dozen of the $300 million aircraft starting in 2001; by the time it took delivery, the industry was on its knees, and the globetrotting executives whose business- and first-class tickets make up the bulk of airline profits were staying home.

Aircraft analyst Richard L. Aboulafia of Teal Group has called the A380 the "worst product-launch decision since New Coke." It was made for a hub-and-spoke world where flights between countries were regulated. Now airlines are freer to travel between any two cities, avoiding the major hubs--and making 800-passenger megajets less necessary. (Emirates, the first to fly the A380 into New York City, quietly withdrew the plane from its JFK flights.)

Analysts like Aboulafia see a future that favors Boeing's smaller, lighter 787 (assuming it ever gets delivered). Airbus is developing its own not-so-jumbo jet, the A350, for that reason. But Air France CEO Pierre-Henri Gourgeon is sticking by his hub strategy. The skies are getting crowded, and he'd rather have the A380 collect passengers in Paris from all over Europe and deliver them to places like New York City and Johannesburg. "It's just like the big cities today," he says. "It doesn't make sense to add a lot of small cars. You need to add buses."

To the jetizens aboard the A380 as it made a somewhat wobbly landing, the arguments about economics and hub-and-spoke miss the point. The A380 is new, massive, filled with technology, and right now only Air France's flies the Atlantic's most glamorous route. They booked passage on this inaugural flight to catch a glimpse of better days, when flying was still an adventure, even if it will never cease to be a chore.
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Old November 30th, 2009, 03:45 AM   #269
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I wish there was an A380 flight to Rio. Anyone knows if it will happen?
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Old November 30th, 2009, 07:01 PM   #270
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Computer glitch forces New York-Paris superjumbo to turn back
30 November 2009
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An Air France A380 had to turn around and land in New York after problems with its navigation system, only days after the superjumbo began flying across the Atlantic, the airline said Monday.

The double-decker Airbus made a U-turn 90 minutes after takeoff from New York and landed safely at Kennedy Airport in the early hours of Saturday, an Air France spokesman told AFP.

"The plane is new and is still getting into its stride. It was a minor computer problem that made navigation a little imprecise," he said.

The plane was carrying about 530 people on the New York-Paris flight when it was forced to turn back. Following repairs in New York, it took off again three hours later.

It was the second time that an A380, the world's largest passenger plane, was forced to turn around in mid-flight due to a malfunction.

A Singapore Airlines superjumbo returned to Paris on September 27 after one of its four engines failed during a routine flight to Singapore. Airbus later said the engine trouble was a "non event" in technical terms.

The Air France spokesman described last week's problem as a "minor" computer glitch, and said the airline took immediate steps to respond to the defect.

"It was a minor glitch, but we do apply a principle of absolute caution and as soon as there is the slightest concern, we come back, we fix it and the plane takes off again," he said.

"It was a problem with the in-flight computer but it did not at all affect air speed," he added.

An Air France A330 jet made by Airbus crashed in the Atlantic in June, killing all 228 people on board.

Investigators found the plane's air speed sensors were defective, but said that the crash was not solely caused by the faulty monitors. The inquiry is continuing and no final verdict on the cause of the accident has been released.

Air France's main pilots' union, the SNPL, said the superjumbo was forced to return to New York after the automatic pilot broke down, but it stressed this was a minor incident.

"Every hour, there are several planes that are forced to make a U-turn and land at another airport," said Erick Derivry, spokesman for SNPL.

"After making several attempts to re-activate the automatic pilot, the crew decided to turn back," he said.

The superjumbo made its maiden flight for Air France 10 days ago, taking off from Paris for New York with 538 passengers on board.

Air France is the first European airline to use the giant plane, but it made its first test flight in April 2005 and has been in service for Singapore Airlines since October 2007.

The superjumbo can carry 525 people in the standard three-class layout and up to 853 with all-economy seating.

Gulf-based Emirates airlines and Australia's Qantas are also flying the A380, which has enjoyed some commercial success despite initial production delays.

Singapore Airlines has ordered 19 A380s in all, and plans to have 11 in service by March 2010. Air France is planning to fly 12 superjumbos, with three others to be delivered by June.

Air France has said it will begin A380 flights from Paris to Johannesburg and Tokyo in the coming months.
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Old December 3rd, 2009, 05:28 PM   #271
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Air France to revamp European operations-paper

PARIS, Dec 2 (Reuters) - Air France plans to renegotiate working conditions with pilots and cabin crew as part of a drive to restructure its European network and boost profitability by 120 million euros, Les Echos reported.

Air France, part of the Air France-KLM group, unveiled its new short- and medium-haul service last month, the paper said in an advance copy of its Thursday edition.

The paper did not cite sources for the story.

The airline faces stiff competition from high-speed train links and low-cost carriers, and the group as a whole needs to generate 500 million euros of extra earnings before interest and tax in the coming months to allow for a return to break-even for the domestic and European network for the financial year 2011-12.

Les Echos said the 120 million euro profitability gain would contribute to that.

Contacted by Reuters, an Air France-KLM spokesman declined to comment on the article.
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Government to quiz Air France on works council report
11 January 2010

PARIS, Jan 11 (Reuters) - The French government will ask Air France management for explanations after a newspaper report said an audit would reveal on Monday that there is a hole of over 20 million euros ($29 million) in the accounts of the airline's works council.

French works councils are made up of representatives from staff and trade unions and notably manage budgets for employees' social and cultural benefits.

"Naturally we will look at this very closely and ask the chairman of Air France for explanations ... if there is a problem, it must be addressed swiftly," junior transport minister Dominique Bussereau told France Info radio.

Le Figaro quoted an unidentified member of the management board of Air France's works council saying the hole in the accounts could come "95 percent from bad management and 5 percent from possible personal enrichment".

The situation was tied to the works council's team in place from March 2007 until Nov. 3, 2009, the paper said.

Five members of the former works council said in a statement issued on Monday that the situation described in the Le Figaro report was "totally false" and they were considering legal action.

They said the works council budget was around break-even in 2009 and that there was no "hole", though they added that there remained a "cash flow problem".

Air France officials had no immediate comment. ($1=.6983 euros)
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Air France-KLM Sells Freighters to FedEx

Bruce Barnard | Jan 29, 2010 5:08PM GMT
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Downsizing carrier unloads two yet-to-be delivered 777s Air France-KLM signed a letter of intent to sell two new 777 freighters to FedEx as it downsizes its all-cargo operation.

"This sale is in line with the current slump within the global air cargo industry," the Franco-Dutch carrier said.

The sale of the planes, which have yet to be delivered by Boeing, will not affect the number of flights by Air France Cargo, the airline said.

Air France didn't say how much FedEx is paying for the 777s, which have a list price of $252 million to $260 million each.

Air France Cargo currently operates five aircraft -- two 777-200 extended range freighters and three 747-400 extended range freighters. It has leased two 747-400s to Russian carrier Air Bridge and a third is due to be chartered out in March.

Air France-KLM owns Europe's largest all-cargo fleet of 29 freighters but plans to significantly reduce its exposure to the sector by transferring some aircraft to its Amsterdam-based subsidiary Martinair and selling others to rival carriers.

The airline, which has grounded 11 freighters, wants to optimize the use of belly hold space on its passenger aircraft and its combi passenger/freight planes.

Air France-KLM's cargo unit booked a $219 million loss in the second quarter ended in September against a year-earlier profit of $15 million as revenue slumped 41 percent to $851 million. The airline does not expect to break even for at least another 18 months.


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Well .. selling them now at a big discount / loss probably given the downturn in freight demand.
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Old June 9th, 2010, 07:26 PM   #275
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Travel Daily News, June 09, 2010 :
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The Air France A380 between Paris and Tokyo

With the arrival of the fourth Airbus A380 in its fleet, Air France will be offering as from 1 September 2010, three weekly frequencies between Paris and Tokyo operated by the Airbus 380. The flight will be daily as from 5 October. Tokyo is therefore the first destination in Asia to be served by the Air France A380 and the third worldwide after New York in November 2009 and Johannesburg in February 2010. It is already possible to make bookings.

A380 flight schedule between Paris and Tokyo:
- Paris-Tokyo:
AF 276 on Wednesdays, Fridays and Sundays (daily as from 5 October 2010)
departing from terminal 2E at 1:30 pm, arriving at 8:10 am the following day.
- Tokyo-Paris:
AF 275 on Mondays, Thursdays and Saturdays (daily as from 5 October 2010)
departing at 11:50 am, arriving in Paris at 5:15 pm at terminal 2E.

Air France's A380 is equipped with 538 seats, divided into three cabin classes La Premiere (First) 9 seats on the main deck -, Affaires (Business) 80 seats on the upper deck and Voyageur (Economy) 449 seats divided between the two decks.

The A380 is the most environment-friendly aircraft in the world - with less than 75 grams of CO2 produced per passenger per kilometre - and the quietest in its category. Its wide cabin offers passengers additional space and comfort. On board this aircraft, Air France has innovated by introducing different lighting moods adapted to the various stages of the flight, areas for passengers to meet up and a brand new in-flight entertainment system with new, wider individual screens.

Air France offers up to 5 daily flights between Tokyo, Osaka and Paris-Charles de Gaulle. The flight schedules enable passengers to benefit from rapid connections at Paris-Charles de Gaulle to the rest of the world.
http://www.traveldailynews.com/pages...aris-and-Tokyo
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The retro paint job looks class but makes the plane itself look like its from the 60's (1st pic only).
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Emergency alarm on Air France flight caused by faulty smoke detector

Investigators have determined that emergency alarms that forced an Air France Boeing 777 jet to land at the eastern Canadian town of Goose Bay earlier this week were caused by a faulty smoke detector, Canadian officials announced Friday.

The jet, en route from Paris to Montreal Tuesday, was about 500 km northwest of Goose Bay, Labrador, flying over subarctic wilderness, when alarms went off.

The plane, accompanied by Canadian air force fighter planes, landed safely at Goose Bay one hour later.

The 478 passengers were stranded in the town of 7,500 people for 28 hours before another Air France flight arrived from Paris to take them to Montreal.

Peter MacKay, Canada's minister of national defense, on Friday thanked Canadian Air Force pilots and the people of Goose Bay for their help.

"I would like to take this opportunity to extend my sincere thanks to the Canadian Forces members and contractors at 5 Wing Goose Bay, as well as the people of Happy Valley-Goose Bay, who so graciously offered their hospitality to the stranded passengers and crew of an Air France Boeing 777," MacKay said.

"You opened your hearts and worked long hours to house, feed and make comfortable 478 unexpected guests following some tense moments in the skies. I know that they were appreciative of your efforts and grateful for your kindness."

Berjan Nicolas, a passenger on the plane, said passengers were told there were some technical difficulties and the plane would try to land at the nearest location.

Nicolas said they were later informed that a fire alarm had gone off.

After the plane touched down and an inspection was done, the decision was made to send another aircraft to transport the passengers to Quebec.

While waiting for the replacement plane to arrive, the passengers and crew members spent the night in air force barracks in Goose Bay.

They were provided with access to phones and given meals by Canadian air force personnel and local townspeople and continued their journey the following day.

The Canadian Transportation Safety Board said Friday the forward lower level cargo smoke detector on the first plane was replaced and it had since been returned to service.

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