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Old May 16th, 2006, 12:17 PM   #1
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New MAX cars (Portland, OR, USA)

New MAX Trains Coming in 2009
More seats, larger windows and a sleek design


TriMet has ordered 21 new MAX trains from Siemens Transportation Systems for the I-205/Portland Mall MAX Light Rail Project.

The new low-floor trains will have a streamlined look with larger windows and 12 more seats per car (as there is only one operator cab per train). Each car will have 76 seats, versus 64 on our current low-floor MAX. The trains cost about $3.5 million each.

The new trains will go into service when the I-205/Portland Mall light rail lines open in September 2009.

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Old May 16th, 2006, 04:04 PM   #2
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How do the current trains look?
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Old May 16th, 2006, 06:33 PM   #3
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Like this:


A nice improvement, IMO.
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Old May 17th, 2006, 02:55 AM   #4
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WHOO HOOO!!!! Portland MAX keeps on getting better and better!!!! Those Siemen trains rock!!!
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Old May 17th, 2006, 04:17 AM   #5
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Those look like the ones in Houston
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Old May 17th, 2006, 05:32 AM   #6
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I believe that is because they are the same model as the ones in Houston.
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Old May 17th, 2006, 06:46 AM   #7
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They look really good - very futuristic.
How about sending some down to Australia?:p
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Old May 18th, 2006, 01:05 AM   #8
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Wow, they look pretty cool. Are all MAX two cars only, or are some three for busier routes/periods? I know the DLR in London is going to add a third (twin) car for its busiest line.
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Old May 18th, 2006, 02:31 AM   #9
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Those are nice.
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Old May 18th, 2006, 02:32 AM   #10
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Wow, they look pretty cool. Are all MAX two cars only, or are some three for busier routes/periods? I know the DLR in London is going to add a third (twin) car for its busiest line.
Well... the current siemens cars are also great cars! Siemens is doing a great job here in US!

Max uses a maximum of 2 cars because in city center the blocks are only 200-some feet long, and 3 cars will not be able to fit in a city block.

I do, however think that the one cab per train may have operational difficulties with turning trains around.
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Old May 18th, 2006, 11:50 AM   #11
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Well... the current siemens cars are also great cars! Siemens is doing a great job here in US!

Max uses a maximum of 2 cars because in city center the blocks are only 200-some feet long, and 3 cars will not be able to fit in a city block.

I do, however think that the one cab per train may have operational difficulties with turning trains around.
Not if you turn the one at the rear around.

(Cab) Car - connection - Car (Cab).

The cabs in the middle were kind of pointless anyway since most of the sets stayed together permanently with the exception of maintenance or tech difficulties.
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Not if you turn the one at the rear around.

(Cab) Car - connection - Car (Cab).

The cabs in the middle were kind of pointless anyway since most of the sets stayed together permanently with the exception of maintenance or tech difficulties.
What I'm saying is that now they've added a new problem of having to turn cars around if they need to uncouple/recouple them. Granted the connection above, which I though they were going to use as well, stays permanent or semi-permanent they should be fine, but they will definately need to build a wye or a turntable in their yards.
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Old May 18th, 2006, 09:16 PM   #13
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I prefer the current ones.
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Old May 19th, 2006, 10:09 AM   #14
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I believe that is because they are the same model as the ones in Houston.

D'ya have any pic from Houston's tram?
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Old May 19th, 2006, 11:03 AM   #15
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Very nice cars, when I was a young boy , I wondered when the world would look like the futuristic sets of movies like logan's run and the like , looks like it's here!

Btw who made your old trains and what does portland intend to do with them? The reason I ask is that Manila LRT Authority recently bought some old Viennese trams for like 1$ (basically a donation) and will have the manufacturer refurbish them. They may get interested in those old trains (don't look too bad) as well!
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Old May 19th, 2006, 09:57 PM   #16
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cool. i believe they are the same cars (same company I'm quite sure)
that Phoenix will be getting in 2007 for service starting in 2008.
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Old May 20th, 2006, 12:45 AM   #17
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cool. i believe they are the same cars (same company I'm quite sure)
that Phoenix will be getting in 2007 for service starting in 2008.
Phoenix is purchasing light rail vehicles from Kinkisharyo:



For more information, see the Kinkisharyo website:

http://www.kinkisharyo-usa.com/vmr_phoenix.html
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Pheonix's are the same as San Jose's, except a better looking front. Yes, those new portland ones are the same as those from Houston
Houston's
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Wow, they look pretty cool. Are all MAX two cars only, or are some three for busier routes/periods? I know the DLR in London is going to add a third (twin) car for its busiest line.
apparently they cant add a 3rd because the downtown blocks are designed to be 200 feet long, so that limits them to 2, which is too bad. 3 cars are cool
EDIT: wow, I should read more closely. Someone already answered this question earlier up the page haha
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Pheonix's are the same as San Jose's, except a better looking front. Yes, those new portland ones are the same as those from Houston
Houston's

COOL, I thought this kind of trams were only in European countries.
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