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Old June 25th, 2015, 11:40 PM   #1
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MISC | Suburban Rail frequencies

What are the headways like for your city's suburban/commuter rail network for both peek service and off-peak?
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Old June 26th, 2015, 12:47 AM   #2
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Stockholm pendeltĺg.

Winter frequencies:


Peak: 7.5 min per line.
Off-peak and weekend: 15 min per line.
Late night: 30 min per line.


Summer timetable:

Peak and off-peak: 15 minutes per line.
Late night: 30 min per line.



Exception: The interurban line to Uppsala runs on average every 30 minutes throughout the day. This line runs along the same stretch as the Märsta branch all the way from Upplands Väsby to Alvjö (off-peak) or Tumba (Peak).
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Old June 26th, 2015, 11:36 AM   #3
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Varies...the Electric network gets more service then the Diesel lines... I will post Metro North's wacky Service patterns later today... Each of their lines is divided into segments...and serviced by local or express trains only...some segments are only 7 stations long...while others skip over the entire line except the first 2 and last 2 stations...

New Jersey Transit

Electric/Main Line - 30minutes off peak & 5-10mins peak
Diesel/Main Line - 45minutes offpeak & 20mins peak
Electric/Branch - Hourly offpeak & 15mins peak
Diesel/Branch - Hourly offpeak & 20mins peak

Metro North

Electric/Main Line - 30mins off peak & 5mins peak
Electric/Branch - Hourly offpeak & 20mins peak
Diesel/Main Line - 45mins offpeak & 15mins peak
Diesel/Branch - 90mins offpeak & 30mins peak
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Old June 26th, 2015, 01:18 PM   #4
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I'm simplifying the network quite a lot, and I've missed out the diesel lines in the north of the city, and the lines to Edinburgh.

North Clyde Electrics:

Between Partick and Hyndland: 14 trains per hour (off-peak)
Argyle Line central section: 9 trains per hour (off-peak)
North Clyde Line central section: 8 trains per hour (off-peak)

South Suburban Lines:

Central to Mount Florida: 4 trains per hour (off-peak) or 6 trains per hour (peak)
Cathcart Circle: 2 trains per hour (off-peak)
Paisley Canal Line: 2 trains per hour (off-peak)
South Western Lines: 4 trains per hour (off-peak)

West Coast Lines:

Central to Paisley Gilmour Street: 11 trains per hour (off-peak)
Inverclyde Line: 5 trains per hour (off-peak)
Ayrshire Coast Line: 4 trains per hour (off-peak)
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Those are quite impressive frequencies.
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Old August 7th, 2015, 07:10 PM   #6
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The most used lines in Chicago, peak in one direction:

Red/Brown/Purple (two track, same direction): 43 trains
Brown/Purple (share track): 22 trains
Red Line: 21 trains
Blue Line: 20 trains
Central Loop (clockwise): 30 trains

The busiest commuter train line has 15 trains per hour peak.
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That's the L isn't it (which is a metro/subway)? No. He's asking for just suburban/commuter rail. Are all lines on Metra 15 tph? What about the off peak frequencies?
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Old August 7th, 2015, 07:50 PM   #8
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Buenos Aires, Argentina:

Línea Sarmiento 8 min
Línea Mitre 15 min (varies the sections)
Línea Roca 12 min (varies the sections)
Línea San Martin 15 min
Línea Belgrano N 15 min
Línea Urquiza 15-20 min
Línea Belgrano S 25 min or more.
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Old August 7th, 2015, 08:00 PM   #9
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That's the L isn't it (which is a metro/subway)? No. He's asking for just suburban/commuter rail. Are all lines on Metra 15 tph? What about the off peak frequencies?
Oh, I missed the "suburban" part.

The Metra Electric line has the most trains at peak times at 18 trains per hour in the 16:00 hour and 20 trains per hour in the 17:00 hour.

For the typical metra trains (diesel) the peak is on the BSNF line which has 15 trains during the 17:00 hour. The other lines might only see 6-7 trains per hour peak and 1 train per hour non-peak.

The number of trains per hour and per line vary GREATLY from line to line and during the different times per day.

For instance the BSNF line will have 20 trains during the 17:00 hour, but then there is a train around 10:00 incoming during the morning and not another one for two hours. Then they are a few an hour and ramping up to 20 an hour during the heart of rush hour.

The trains go to different stops depending on the train, so they almost all have "express" type service and you have to get on the right train to get to your stop. The lines are very long, upwards of 70KM long with dozens of stops. Some trains might start downtown and then skip every single stop until the last two stops on the line - yet those trains would be filled to capacity. It would take maybe 60% of the time to complete the trip than if it stopped at every stop. So you'll get trains leaving every few minutes on the same lines, but they are staggered out as far as where they stop. They'll send out three trains at once on one line, the first one goes all the way to the end stops, the second one does the middle stops and the third one does the closest stops, so they don't get in each others way. Compile that with 11 train lines going out of a handful of stations, and you have trains leaving constantly, it's very tight at rush hour since that's when almost everyone uses the system, but they have the scheduling so there are very few delays. When there are though for track damage or severe storms - it can turn into a mess quickly.

Trains run from around 4:30am to around 24:45, although the overwhelming purpose of Metra is to deliver 300,000 rides to people coming into downtown Chicago from 5:00am to 10:00am and then take them home between 16:00pm to 19:00pm. Outside those hours there might be only 1-3 trains per hour.

Later in the evening there are normally only trains every two hours from around 21:00 onward. Just to give people one last chance at 24:40am to get back to the suburbs if they happened to have stayed late downtown doing dinner or drinking.
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Romania
4-12 trains...a day

Not kidding, sadly
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That's really pathetic.
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Old August 8th, 2015, 12:25 AM   #12
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It's interesting that trains in the US are very "peaky" if they're commuter trains. The frequencies are actually worse than intercity trains are across Sweden - there is more than one train an hour from Stockholm to Gothenburg for example!
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The USA doesn't do mass transit well as you know. There is couple of reasons why commuter/suburban service have poor frequencies compared to those in Europe or East Asia.

1.Vast majority of commuter rail lines in US cities are controlled by private freight companies. There is rather small window to run trains frequently.

2.Lack of money for better operations, maintenance, and expansion largely do to political reasons. Remember this is the USA, where political groups and segments of the population look down on non-auto alternatives.

3.FRA crash regulations make it difficult for agencies to buy sleeker trains you see in Europe and elsewhere.

4.Most commuter lines aren't electrified. See Reasons 1,2, and 3.

5.NIMBYs

6.Commuter lines serve areas with lot of auto-centric sprawl around stations largely because many of suburbs grew post-WWII. See Philadelphia for example.

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Old August 8th, 2015, 01:47 PM   #14
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Wiki sums up the Sydney's frequencies fairly well.
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The network is a hybrid suburban-commuter railway with a central underground core that serves 182 stations over 815km of track. The network has 20 hours a day operation with train frequencies of every three minutes or better in the underground core, 5-10 minutes at most major stations all day, 15 minutes at most minor stations all day and four trains an hour on the Cumberland Line. On weekends service is less frequent with headways of upwards of a half hour on outer stations with frequencies of less than 10 minutes in the underground core.
Off peak, each line on the network usually gets a train every 15 minutes, every 10 on the few busiest lines, and every 30 in a small number of stations usually in the quietest areas (I'd say around 5-10% of stations within Sydney), but if you look at the network map there's sections where lines merge and that's where trains get more frequent (the under 10 min frequencies stated in wiki). Also because of the length of a few of the lines such as the Western and Illawarra lines, stopping patterns within the line can vary. Some trains will stop all stations in the outer areas then run express to the CBD stopping only at larger stations, and vice versa with inner stations. There's also the 'intercity' lines (regional lines) which run outside of Sydney then once they get within Sydney they stop at major stations only. That's how you get more frequent services at larger stations in sections where lines don't merge. Trains run more frequently during the peaks, usually double for most of the lines (every 15 becomes about every 7 or 8, the few 30 min stations becomes 15) and up to 3 mins or better in the busiest sections and stations.

With weekends it's usually every 10 mins or better in the busiest sections for much of the day (the City Circle, the Eastern suburbs line, much of from Chatswood to the CBD, at major stations and a few other areas), then 15 mins at the majority of smaller stations and every 30 mins elsewhere.

However Sydney doesn't have a proper metro system as of yet.

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Old August 8th, 2015, 05:40 PM   #15
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In Seoul, South Korea, train frequency depends on the distance from downtown and which direction. As you go farther out, the frequency goes down all day. Looking at the schedule, they run a few minutes more often, but not much more than during the day or night.

For example, trains to the south (probably the most popular route) run 5-8 minutes to Anyang, then 10-20 minutes (more during rush hour) to Pyeongtaek. Finally every 30-40 minutes to Cheonan. Out to the eastern suburbs is about 20-30 minutes.

I guess you could say the average for mid-suburbs is about every 30 minutes. The rush hour frequency is really not much more than during the day.

There are some lines that have express trains, but those run only once or twice a day in each direction. They skip most of the smaller stations, but definitely not like Chicago where it goes all the way to the end without stopping.
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Linea Roca, Buenos Aires Argentina:


Plaza Constitución Station - Ezeiza Station and Cańuelas station (middle distance):

Monday - Friday




Saturday:





Sunday and holidays:





Plaza Constitución Station - Temperley (Alejandro Korn - Glew services)

Monday - Friday:




Saturday:




Sundays and holidays:




Plaza Constitución Station - Claypole services:




Plaza Constitución Station - La Plata services:



Plaza Constitución Station - Bosques (Circuit line):



Temperley Station - Haedo Station:



Temperley Station - General Alvear Station:



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