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Old August 19th, 2015, 04:50 PM   #1
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Ghost Airports Worldwide, the Stories and Photos thread.

Ghost Airports are becoming a global problem. I refer to airports BUILT since 2000 and intended as 'Commercial' scheduled airline airports, not abandoned military airports or pleasure and charter airports or swallowed up by a nearby town.

Many of us already know that Spain has 3 famous Ghost Airports constructed c. 2007/8 before the crisis finally kicked in for the bankers. These are:

1. Madrid South (it is in Toledo more or less and was marketed as Madrid )
2. Murcia
3. Castellon

(Numbers 2 and 3 are only a few km from Alicante and Valencia airports which are both successful airports and have good motorway connections in all directions.

Numbers 2 and 3 never opened but they do promise to open up every year in April...and fail to do so. )

Madrid South opened, closed, featured on Top Gear and was then sold (still closed of course) for €10,000 during summer 2015 to a mystery Chinese buyer. It cost almost a €1.1bn to build including High Speed Rail stations and motorway spurs etc.

I'd say the three of them pissed through around €2bn including infrastructure outside to connect to them.

Now INDIA is trying to get into the ghost airport business...and allusions are made to some in China too in the following link. This looks interesting.

http://in.reuters.com/article/2015/0...0QN2BV20150819

Once Ghost Airports go global like this.....time for a thread I think. From that Reuters link.

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Wed Aug 19, 2015 Ghost airports highlight risks as Modi spends to grow

India has spent more than $50 million since 2009 on eight airports that do not receive scheduled flights - white elephants that are a reminder of the pitfalls for Prime Minister Narendra Modi as he bets on an infrastructure drive to fuel growth.
200 airports is a lot, even if there was a war on which there ain't.

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India's ghost terminals were built largely by the previous government, which planned 200 'no frills' airports, encouraged by rising air travel and the need to connect far-flung regions.

But the empty check-in desks and cavernous baggage halls highlight the risks for Modi, too, of catering to powerful regional bosses and spending without a unifying strategy.

China's investment splurge has left dozens of similar ghost projects.
Reuters has plenty more on the subject.

200 Airports ?????? Jesus!!! .

How many of these 200 airports in this grand Indian plan exist right now and how many of those are empty or closed and how many are basicially zombie 2 flight a day facilities ( with 100 employees no doubt) and how many are actually successful??.

An Indian airline ordered 250 Airbus 320s in the past few weeks so surely there is some demand for flights and not all Indian airports will end up as expensive failures.

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on Tuesday, Modi pledged 27 billion rupees ($413 million) for four new airports in the impoverished state of Bihar, which holds elections this year.
And of course I look forward to seeing the Chinese Ghost Airports too.

This thread is for Anyone who would like to add a short piece with a selection of striking photos on their own favourite ghost airport.

Max 5 photos per Ghost Airport!!! The stories themselves are more interesting.

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Old August 20th, 2015, 08:58 AM   #2
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Berlin built a big Ghost airport too
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Old August 21st, 2015, 12:06 AM   #3
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That one is not finished and will be over capacity when opened rather than a Ghost Airport.

Berlin airports had 28m pax in 2014, are set to get quite near 30m pax in 2015 and are all to be closed immediately when their NEW airport with a terminal capacity of a mere 27m opens .....due 2018 or something. Templehof was already closed years ago.

A Pukka Ghost Airport has to be ghostly after it opens...won't happen in Berlin 4 sure.
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Old August 21st, 2015, 12:46 AM   #4
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Many of us already know that Spain has 3 famous Ghost Airports constructed c. 2007/8 before the crisis finally kicked in for the bankers. These are:

1. Madrid South (it is in Toledo more or less and was marketed as Madrid )
2. Murcia
3. Castellon
Acutally, Spain has more ghost airports, but they are run on a ludicrous deficit with no traffic to justify them.

1. Burgos
2. Córdoba
3. Salamanca
4. Albacete
5. León
6. Lleida
7. Huesca
8. Logroño
9. Badajoz

Beyond these, there are 20 odd more that are like 80-90% subsidized with public funds to stay afloat. The ones above are more like 98-99% subsidized.

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Old August 21st, 2015, 01:40 AM   #5
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Some of those are ex military airports that never really found a use in civilian life Gincan.

"Paris Disney" is another example of that.

I'm more interested in brand new build commercial airports with no commerce and no real possibility of commerce, ever. Proper lunacy. That's why I picked those three Spanish Airports, Murcia ( Murcia Corvera) is even located in a NO FLY zone ........FFS
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Old August 21st, 2015, 02:04 AM   #6
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Berlin Brandenburg.

Looks like this and has looked like this for 4 years now, still not open.



Photo Bloomberg. Bloomberg has an excellent summary of why the testing failed 4 years ago ...it may be open in 2016 ( in your dreams) or in 2018 (more likely) and will be at capacity on day one.

Story > http://www.bloomberg.com/news/featur...-embarrassment

Long Long Story but here is a little snippet.

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In February 2015 the board managed to lure Karsten Mühlenfeld, the well-regarded 51-year-old former chief of engineering at Rolls-Royce Germany. It also hired a former Siemens manager as his technical director. One of the first moves the two made was to yank out and reinstall the miles of cables. Then they turned to the fire prevention system. Smoke now channels upward through chimneys, in accordance with the laws of physics.

The board says construction should be completed by the middle of 2016, to be followed by fresh rounds of testing by ORAT crews. If all goes according to plan, says Mühlenfeld, the airport should begin operations in 2017. Berliners are trying to remain patient as tourism is booming and growth is limited by a lack of flights. “The number of defects that they’ve found has grown to 150,000, including 85,000 serious ones,”
2018 then, Construction started in 2006 and this airport will be seriously over capacity on day one UNLESS they also leave Tegel open well into the 2020s while they add extra terminal space.

But as Brendan Behan said when he was asked what he thought of New York??? "It will be grand when its finished."
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