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Old May 23rd, 2016, 10:56 PM   #41
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KOREA TRADE INSTITUTE confirm investment in this project!
I will explain more news later
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Chairman Kim In Ho of KOREA trade council announce to built Second COEX in olympic stadium area.
$3 billion project
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Old June 15th, 2016, 05:12 AM   #43
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As part of the Jamsil Sports Complex Redevelopment Project, the city government has announced its plan to build a gondola between Jamsil and the Ttukseom Park / Resort, spanning over the Han River, so for a length of around 1000 meters. Each gondola would have a capacity of 8 people.

Construction would start at the same time of the Jamsil Complex, so not before 2019.



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Old June 23rd, 2016, 07:53 PM   #44
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Jamsil Sports Complex to Undergo Major Redevelopment


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A massive redevelopment will see Seoul's Jamsil Sports Complex become a major centre for conventions, meetings, travel, leisure, and exhibitions. Environmentally friendly and transit-oriented infrastructure will form the backbone of the urban development scheme, which will include hotels and cultural spaces at the Hangang River and Tancheon Stream.
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Old June 24th, 2016, 01:47 AM   #45
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that is my rendering!!! I got that from top source and open to world!!! let's expectation I what I open another detail Design and photos. those rendering is just small pieces among my cabinet!
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Old November 26th, 2016, 07:14 AM   #46
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Threads overlapping but this one is regarding the entire project, rather than the New Trade Tower.

In any case, here is the update from New Trade Tower thread.

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New Trade Tower 70FL proposal by Korea Trade Federation
I'm not sure it can be over 300m height or below cause they not open height data public
But It can be over 300m cause It located very middle of between HYUNDAI HQ(over 500m) and Lotte Tower(over 500m)

This project not only 70fl landmark but also complex project with massive develop of 88Olympic sport area turn into MICE hub of Asia
So I gonna update not only this landmark but also around connected development project too.

Such like a NEW BASEBALL STADIUM/NEW MULTI COMPLEX STADIUM/convention facility/Pedestrian friendly Bridge etc.

Below is OFFICIAL SEOUL DATA.
Let's see detail of project contents
-Project name : Olympic Trade Park
-Proposal by Korea Trade Federation
-proposal date 18 November 2016
-Project site area : 334,605㎡
-Cost : 2조4918억 won
-New Trade Tower : 70fl(used for Global Company's office,International office)
-Main stadium remodeling
-New Baseball stadium :35,000 seats
-New Gym(muti theater and Sport gym) :11,000 seat
-70 yacht harbor
-Marina swimming pool
-Buried car road into underground and make pedestrian way
-New Pedestrian friendly bridge connected to HYUNDAI HQ(OVER 500M)
-New Hotel Building : 600 rooms
etc

Consortium who proposal above
Korea Trade Federation 51%
KDB Infra(10%)
KDB(5%) : very powerful korea bank
KB asset&manage(4%)
HYUDAI STOCK(3%)
KB BANK(3%)

Construction company
DAEWOO construction Inc
DAERIM construction Inc
GS construction Inc
POSCO construction Inc
SK construction Inc
each one has 4% right

Hotel will manage by SHINSAEGAE HOTEL(0.5%) & PARNAS HOTEL(0.5%)


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Old June 16th, 2017, 08:38 AM   #47
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http://land.hankyung.com/news/app/ne...#01.14126261.1
Official confirm : 88 olympic stadium around road buried underground
Below Seoul's confirm data
-Buried 3 highway
-Cost : $ 650 millions USD 7145 억 won
-500,000 ㎡ Haniver park area make water sport&citizens leisure facility road view => http://naver.me/GMMRGfWp
-Thanchun west road : 1km road view => http://naver.me/G4jrHPgf
-Thanchun east road : 365m road view => http://naver.me/G4jrH3xw
-Olympic road : 400m road view => http://naver.me/xahPak1u


1. Actually seoul all closed 4 lamp highway but around citizens complain about traffic jam. So seoul only remove 동부간선진출램프 dongbu lamp to nearby location.
2. to make new pedestrian bridge 300m length between HYUNDAI GBC~STADIUM
3.All of these project begin design will be basic design+detail design simultaneously.
4. Olympic road : 400m is short term. So it design low deep. so 3m will be pup up ground. But all of these unbalanced will be compromised when Main stadium&New domed stadium will be design as compromised with 3m pup up.
And 400m ground will be make as "Green walking Deck" which people access into river park by walking(now can't go to han river due to highway)
5. Thanchun west road : 1km buried underground. this is one way road.
6. Main stadium's seat changed 1∼2fl seat 55㎝, 3fl seat 47㎝ which all of them seat 6㎝ wider than original seat.
And seat and ground distanced closer from 36m to 29.6m
6. Main stadium's canopy and sky structure substitute with modern style&material.(sky observation deck on there)
7.west sub-ground remove to est sub ground and make life sport palce
8. to built new Hostel 135 room in east
9. Infront main stadium entrance all parking lot buried underground and surface to make huge meeting square
10. to built domed or half domed stadium
11. to built new Han river side public&professional swimming pool
12. to built new Yacht&ship harbor in front han river park
And KOREA TRADE federation submit "Trade tower 70fl and to built huge MICE facility in here too.(now negotiation with Seoul government)

http://www.cnews.co.kr/uhtml/read.js...21346023350269

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Old June 30th, 2017, 03:39 PM   #48
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http://www.newsis.com/view/?id=NISX2...0201&pID=10200

http://www.edaily.co.kr/news/NewsRea...05&OutLnkChk=Y

Yesterday held official citizens presentation&talking conference about Jamsil Sports Complex Redevelopment
1000 citizens participated on this conference and listening expert&government's presentation and suggest citizens opinions and claim

"Jamsil area will be New citizens's leisure&healing sport area when this project completed" say expert

and citizens suggest opinions " △prepare traffic jam when project completed △To built more Gym&public sports facility for citizens △Economical booming with around area △ prepare for prevent noisy increased due to stadium&concert area increased"

"Jamsil project is historical area for SK history which introduce korea to world citizens. So we will make this place for New place&success that historical value too. And this area make as new economical engine of SK. So we will keen contact with Seoul government and do best completed this project" say Park chun hee songpa governor
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Old July 4th, 2017, 04:17 AM   #49
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official citizens presentation&talking conference about Jamsil Sports Complex Redevelopment project
Most citizens clap hands and supporting this project
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http://www.fnnews.com/news/201707131925415385
"to built over 50fl luxury hotel(west)& around 50fl hotel(east) in this project" say Mr jung su young chief official of seoul development department.
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New renders. Technically it's not exactly new renders, I think it's more of a 3d animated video of the previously seen renders. Also, please remember that these are definitively not final. For the new Jamsil Baseball Stadium, they're not even sure yet what kind of stadium they're going to build (domed, retractable roof, open). And it's the same thing for the MICE complex, New Trade Tower or new Basketball Arena.









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Seoul speechless













I'm speechless
Yes seoul disoder and nosy and ugly but this is seoul class
I'm not envy tokyo london

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Jamsil stadium remodeling and built sky deck!!!
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seat will be more wider and nearby ground seat will be extension to ground
SAM_2226 by Inno Inno, Flickr에서

below huge parking lot and commercial and olympic history exhibition
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Few days ago "Seoul international district"'s citizens participated hall open in Jamsil


Above photos copyright news1
위 모든 사진들의 저작권과 출처는 news1 http://news1.kr/photos/view/?2822335...m_source=dable

Then we can see future of Around HYUNDAI tower.

According to the above hall's mock up. we can estimate or assume this project scale.

HYUNDAI tower to built supertall.
and Jamsil's new landmark tower around over 200~300m
and New baseball stadium built as half dome.(but it can built as Dome too)
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Jamsil Baseball Stadium Reconstruction

A workshop was held this week to discuss the reconstruction of Jamsil Baseball Stadium.

As you know, it is part of the massive Jamsil Sports Complex redevelopment project.

As an avid baseball fan who often goes to Jamsil Stadium, this is a topic of special interest for me.

The entire project is scheduled to be completed by 2025.

The new ballpark will be built just North of the Olympic Stadium, on the grounds of the auxiliary stadium / field.

The outfield seats will be orientated North with great views of the Han River, although the current view is great as well with the Gangnam skyline on the 1st base bleachers.

The big question is about whether to make it an open, domed, or retractable roof stadium. Open is cheaper (200 million), but is a problem because games get rained out, and it can get too hot or polluted. It also prevents using the stadium during the winter, which prevents Korea from hosting large baseball events (MLB All-Star Tours, Premier12, World Baseball Classic, other domestic events) or other events such as concerts.

A dome would solve those problems, but is significantly more expensive, and domed stadium are usually known for their hollow atmosphere, artificial grass, and would not benefit from the great views or the sun in the summer.

Finally, retractable-roof is the most expensive option, but allows for use of the stadium in all seasons while being able to play outdoors most of the time when the weather is good.

The total capacity would be 35,000 (compared to 26,000 today, but without the same amenities or comfort).

While some want a bigger stadium, I agree that 35,000 is sufficient, and on par with some of the newest MLB stadium. The previous renders (which were just artist impressions) showed an asymmetrical structure with more seats on one side of the ballpark than the other. I think this is good, not only because the best looking ballparks are asymetrical, but because Korean Home Teams usually always sit on one side (currently 1st base in Jamsil), which makes the Home side frequently sell-out, while the Visitor side is fairly empty, which is inefficient and unaesthetic.

I would personally put Retractable Roof first, and Open-air second. I suspect the figures they're giving for the cost are voluntarily lowballing open-air stadium as they're leaning towards open-air.

I'd favor the retractable-roof of the canopy variety (rather than a full roof), similar to Minute Maid Park or Safeco Field.

We'll see, in any case the public is split on the issue, and it's gonna take at least one year before a final decision is made.



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anycase one thing is sure that this new stadium must built either "retractable or Domed!

Personally I used to participated on EDM music festival in jamsil main stadium.
Most important festival used held in here but can't rise up sound properly in the night and 24 hour festival impossible due to around citizens's noisy complain.

So this new stadium must built not only used for baseball but also festival purposed.

BTW This area will changed amazing!!!
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anycase one thing is sure that this new stadium must built either "retractable or Domed!

Personally I used to participated on EDM music festival in jamsil main stadium.
Most important festival used held in here but can't rise up sound properly in the night and 24 hour festival impossible due to around citizens's noisy complain.

So this new stadium must built not only used for baseball but also festival purposed.

BTW This area will changed amazing!!!


Well, while festivals should be factored in the discussion, i don't think your argument alone warrants choosing a domed stadium, for a variety of reasons:
- The ballpark will be the most used ballpark in the world, with 144 home games (72 each for Doosan and LG), around 15 additional spring training games in March, playoffs in October depending on the teams' standings (even if they don't make the playoff, it wouldn't be known for certain until the end of September, which would make planning big events such as festival impossible in October). You can add additional games, such as the Korea-Yonsei Games, National Team Preparation games, and potentially WBC, Premier12, Olympic/Asian Games, Asia Professional Baseball Championship, MLB All-Star Tours, High-School Tournaments... So until early March to late October or even mid-November, the stadium is going to get used virtually everyday for baseball. This only leaves 4 months for other events, such as festivals, single-act concerts, fairs, political meetings... Which is only a limited number of days, and an even more limited number of weekends. And we all know that Winter season is not the season which attracts the most festival goers.
- When the weather is good, domed stadiums are strongly disliked by fans and players alike. The only remaining MLB roofed stadium is the much-maligned Tropicana Field, and the numerous domed stadiums built around 20-25 years ago in the NPB are the least popular ones. Same goes with Gocheok SkyDome, which, although decent for a dome, has been criticized a lot. Also, domed stadium don't have natural grass but FieldTurf / AstroTurf, which causes many injuries and is dangerous. So the experience of a domed stadium is not very good for fans and players alike. It's sometimes a necessary compromise, especially in a country with cold weather in the winter and rainy summers such as Korea (so I think Gocheok serves a decent purpose), but overall, most baseball fans would prefer retractable-roof over domed.
- Even if a domed stadium is built and such festivals are held, I doubt that any 24-hour event (or very late night event of that nature) could be held. Noise is of course an issue, but personnel costs at night, lower demand, security issues, lack of transportation would make it unlikely that promoters would be willing (or even allowed to) run such a festival. I might be wrong, but I don't know of many/any arenas and domed-stadiums which hold EDM/raves in the middle of the night in the heart of the city.
- A ballpark is not the best location for a music festival. Sitting arrangements in ballparks are usually not optimal for festivals or music events, with a roundish field of play, the inability to use the entire tribunes/bleachers, and the fact that ballparks are usually baseball-specific which makes it more difficult to transform into a music venue than a basketball/volleyball/hockey arena. It is true that there is a dearth of large quality indoor arenas in Seoul which can accommodate large concerts or festivals. However, the situation is changing and this need is starting to be met by new facilities:
- Jangchung Arena was completely renovated in 2015.
- Gocheok Sky Dome opened before the 2016 season. While not perfect, it can accommodate concerts. I know some K-Pop acts played there, as well as Metallica.
- The Olympic Gymnasium in Olympic Park is currently being remodeled as a large (15,000 seat) music-only venue.
- Seoul Arena is currently being proposed for a large multi-use arena in Changdong, mostly with music in mind.
- On the Jamsil site, a brand new 11,000-seat Basketball (maybe even Hockey) Arena is being planned for 2025 to replace of the Jamsil Arena and Jamsil Students' Gymnasium. There is no doubt that this arena could complement the Olympic Stadium for a festival such as Ultra, especially since the basketball season doesn't run into the summer.


So I don't think night festivals should be the main considerations for the redevelopment of the project. I would still favor a quite open retractable-roof though, like the U/C Global Life Park. In any case, I need to see more before making my mind.
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Well, while festivals should be factored in the discussion, i don't think your argument alone warrants choosing a domed stadium, for a variety of reasons:


So I don't think night festivals should be the main considerations for the redevelopment of the project. I would still favor a quite open retractable-roof though, like the U/C Global Life Park. In any case, I need to see more before making my mind.


that is your opinions
If you really think no need "domed stadium then you asking to built new stadium in your city

this is my city. Actually 6 month ago I asking to Seoul's city council to built domed in there through official seoul's citizens hearing channel.

And they officially reply to me "No confirmation whether domed or open. But We sincerely hearing your opinion and apply to olympic redevelop project"

So your talking just your opinions. not at all influence to this project. useless.

also Everybody know that retractable is best one.
But retractable one is expensive compared with domed. LG will be must pay this project's u/c cost as public donation. As I'm citizens I don;t like imposed huge financing burden to LG company. We should compromised!

btw I really preference retractable or domed! But in conscience person I choose domed.
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that is your opinions
If you really think no need "domed stadium then you asking to built new stadium in your city

this is my city. Actually 6 month ago I asking to Seoul's city council to built domed in there through official seoul's citizens hearing channel.

And they officially reply to me "No confirmation whether domed or open. But We sincerely hearing your opinion and apply to olympic redevelop project"

So your talking just your opinions. not at all influence to this project. useless.

also Everybody know that retractable is best one.
But retractable one is expensive compared with domed. LG will be must pay this project's u/c cost as public donation. As I'm citizens I don;t like imposed huge financing burden to LG company. We should compromised!

btw I really preference retractable or domed! But in conscience person I choose domed.


Why do you need to be divisive and aggressive about everything...


First of all, you missed the whole point of my argument. I didn't diss the whole dome stadium thing. I said that using a once a year EDM event as a rationale for choosing a dome over another design was fairly short-sighted, if not self-centered. I don't have an absolute opposition to domed stadium. And I cited in the first post that the results of the survey were neck to neck between domed and open-air (retractable was not proposed as an option). I also said that personally, I thought that Gocheok was better than it was made out to be.


And, unlike you, I presented tangible facts, rather than ad hominem, to put things in perspective regarding the entire project for other people who might be unfamiliar with this project: state of current arena facilities, baseball season schedule and international baseball opportunities, suitability of a baseball venue as a temporary concert event, perspective of people involved in baseball and comparison with MLB and NPB stadia.


Why do you have to be insulting and kind of xenophobic? You know perfectly well that I've lived in this city for years, speak Korean, work and pay my taxes and insurance here, and I'm a Seoul resident just as much as you are. And as a baseball enthusiast who goes to Jamsil at least every month, I have just as much of a say in this matter as you do.


And you don't have any "influence" on this project, at least not more than the 2,000 people who participated in the survey. You participated in the survey, and got a generic thank you answer. Good for you that you participated, that doesn't make your opinion regarding dome stadium, legitimate as it may be, worth more than anyone else's.
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I said that using a once a year EDM event as a rationale for choosing a dome over another design was fairly short-sighted,

I thought that Gocheok was better than it was made out to be.


And you don't have any "influence" on this project, at least not more than the 2,000 people who participated in the survey.

"A Once a YEAR?"

You wrong
In this year I go 4 times(ultra/5 stadium/global gathering/count down) EDM festival in there jamsil stadium.
Think about how many times other rock concert/pop/festival/religion/sport meeting held in there?
Recently i booked "Count down new year festival" which one held Jamsil stadium again.
https://booking.naver.com/booking/5/bizes/115538
there will make it artificial Big tent in the ground called Big top arena due to "cold" during New year count down!
Think about as you like said If Gocheok can substitute Jamsil then why they not choose Gocheok for "count down" for Jamsil?
cause Gocheok is inproper place for festival.
No other facility can substitute for jamsil about festival.

What is wrong with you? I used to go Jamsil and I think Seoul need domed stadium.So I asking to Seoul to make it as Domed. that is not your business.

20151107_164950 by Inno Inno, Flickr에서

Gocheok was better?
Gocheok is only 15 minute take from my infront door by bicycle.
I was go there for edm festival(one night carnival).
But it was terrible place to held. Not proper place at all bro. small and location is very bad.

2,000 people who participated in the survey=> I am the one who one of them 2,000 participated.
Seoul send me invited mobile message and i go there for conference bro(at seoul press center!)
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