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Old December 2nd, 2015, 04:33 PM   #21
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Because it is simply not the right time for Iraq to build this project. They have other serious civil issues they should take care of first before they make these utopian plans.
Then the rest of the world should stop doing anything to first take care of some serious climate issues. And America should stop building skyscrapers and first deal with their extremist conservative republicans and the death penalty.

I don't know if this plan is realistic. But your reasons are not the reasons not to build. And yes, Islamic State is serious, I know.
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Old December 2nd, 2015, 06:42 PM   #22
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Here Comes "The Bride": Iraq Debuts Future World's Tallest Skyscraper

http://www.forbes.com/sites/keithfla...st-skyscraper/

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Iraq is the last place you’d expect to build world’s tallest building. But it’s scheduled to happen. The war-torn nation—battered by bombs, terrorism, corruption and civil war—has survived more than 12 years of turmoil (longer if you count the first Gulf War). Now much of the country is experiencing a rapidly growing economy, which typically means a construction boom is on the horizon. The once fertile land where civilization began—where the Biblical Garden of Eden, Tower of Babel and Babylon reportedly resided—is enjoying a cultural renaissance architecturally.

AMBS Architects is taking the lead in rebuilding Iraq and restoring it to former greatness—not an easy task. The firm (run by founding architect Ali Mousawi and partners Amir Mousawi and Marcos De Andres) is a consortium of international architects, designers and engineers dedicated to architecture and project management. The firm has offices in London, Baghdad and Basra.
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Old December 2nd, 2015, 08:22 PM   #23
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This is just as amazing as it is unrealistic. Pipe dream.
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Old December 2nd, 2015, 08:25 PM   #24
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I really hope this will be built. I just can't shake the feeling of skepticism because of how, well, utopian the building looks.
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Old December 2nd, 2015, 08:58 PM   #25
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If I may speculate a little bit about what's going on here:

Some climatologists have recently argued that the low-lying areas around the Persian Gulf, and in particular the vast majority of Iraq, may become so hot and humid as to become uninhabitable to humans by 2100 -- basically daily high temperatures of 60C/140F, with too much humidity to be able to cool one's body with sweat. If we take that assertion at face value, then Iraq is going to have a huge crisis on its hands within this century. The Iraqi people will need to either abandon the country (we've seen how the world has handled a few thousand Syrian refugees, how do you think they'll react to Iraq's projected 2100 population of 163 Million?), hope that climate trends are drastically reversed, or find a new, smart, long-term habitation solution.

I believe that this proposal is a first step towards that solution. Self-contained, efficient, climate-regulated communities -- let's be real, we're talking about arcologies -- certainly seem like the stuff of science fiction but 1) are not totally unfeasible given the last decade's advances in architecture (see Kingdom Tower/Burj Khalifa as examples of extreme height, and Shanghai Tower for LEED certified megatall efficiency), and 2) are much more realistic than the mass exodus/hoping-and-praying options I described above.

Getting it right is going to take many technological advancements, not to mention decades of trial-and-error. It appears that Basra is investing in that process now, and for that reason I would agree this is not simply a "vision." While the chances of this particular project actually being completed as designed are probably slim, the knowledge gained from trying to engineer and build it will advance Iraq's long term viability as a place where civilization can survive.
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Old December 2nd, 2015, 10:16 PM   #26
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This is nonsense! China needs to build this high not Iraq!
Or the UAE
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Old December 2nd, 2015, 10:21 PM   #27
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UAE will have the next tallest tower and it will be a mile high not like this one only 1067m Just you wait
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Old December 2nd, 2015, 10:27 PM   #28
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This is nonsense! China needs to build this high not Iraq!
When Iraq finally attains peace, they'll have more important things to empty their limited coffers on, other than unicorns in the desert.
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Old December 3rd, 2015, 10:51 PM   #29
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ISIS would blow up this thing, they cannot win with terrorist group which is occupying 1/3 of their country and they would build worlds tallest ? nonsense.
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Old December 5th, 2015, 05:53 PM   #30
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Wow! So many patronizing comments!
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Old December 6th, 2015, 07:22 PM   #31
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It's quite the proposal! Very attractive design. It'll be interesting to see how this pans out.
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Old December 8th, 2015, 01:49 PM   #32
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very interesting and huge ambition!
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Old December 23rd, 2015, 11:26 AM   #33
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Basra's plan to build the world's next tallest tower: Is this the MidEast's most ambitious or most foolhardy project?

http://www.arabianbusiness.com/basra...l#.Vnpm07Z94-U

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In a bid to redraft more recent global perceptions, despite ongoing conflict in the country, Basra’s officials recently unveiled out-of-the-blue plans to build the world’s next tallest tower, overshadowing the 828-metre Burj Khalifa in Dubai, and the under-construction 1,000-metre Kingdom Tower being built by Saudi billionaire Prince Alwaleed Bin Talal Bin Abdulaziz Al Saud in Jeddah.

Basra’s 1,152-metre skyscraper, named The Bride after a local nickname for the city, has been met with plenty of scepticism. But project manager Marcos De Andres, a director at British firm AMBS Architects, insists it has merit.
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“The Basra Province in South Iraq has remained very quiet and removed from political and religious tensions. Having the bulk of Iraq’s oil reserves, it is becoming one of the fastest growing business centres in the world [and most expensive per square metre].

The new downtown master plan was commissioned by the Basra Governorate with an aim of maximising the city’s capacity by 2025. Avoiding urban sprawl is a top priority to protect the precious environment and therefore we need to go vertical. The new downtown area will feature a one-of-a-kind landmark to match its importance.”
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“The Bride will have investors. This project has become bigger since all the attention and a lot of big companies are wanting to be part of it. We will resume working on the master plan.”
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“Furthermore, The Bride is designed to be a round-the-clock city, with offices, hotels, whole neighbourhoods, commercial centres, sky-squares, parks, gardens and its own rail network.

“It is expected that revenues will far exceed the costs.”
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Old December 27th, 2015, 10:05 PM   #34
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Does Irak have enough money to undertake such as dream-building???
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Old December 30th, 2015, 03:56 PM   #35
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I hope this gets fulfilled

the iraqi people deserve it

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Does Irak have enough money to undertake such as dream-building???
of course! iraq is a rich country!
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Old January 2nd, 2016, 02:39 PM   #36
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Kingdom tower looks nicer
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Old January 4th, 2016, 06:06 PM   #39
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The tower has an amazing design and there is Oil Money in IRAQ that could pay for it.

But Who wants to invest billions when ur building it on Very shaky ground indeed.

Usually when investors see that they wont make, a profit they pull out or cancel it during construction.
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The tower has an amazing design and there is Oil Money in IRAQ that could pay for it.

But Who wants to invest billions when ur building it on Very shaky ground indeed.

Usually when investors see that they wont make, a profit they pull out or cancel it during construction.
I truly don't believe this project has any chance at all of getting built. Even if they have plenty of oil, there's not much money in oil these days. Most oil companies and undergoing massive layoffs.
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