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Old December 9th, 2015, 12:24 AM   #1
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MISC | Train Approaching Warning Systems

I didn't see a thread for this... What does your National or Regional Railway network use to warn people at stations of high speed or express trains approaching the station?

This system is used on Amtrak's Northeast Corridor line east of New Haven.

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Old December 9th, 2015, 12:49 PM   #2
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On major stations(that accept at least all the suburban trains going or in big cities) there are signs for people not to stand on the edge of the platform. That's how in Ukraine. Some may also hear a very annoying noise of the train approaching if there is a road crossing the rail at grade
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Old December 9th, 2015, 02:05 PM   #3
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Normally high speed trains don't pass near platfroms in Austria so that no signaling is necessary:



There are however announcements in those rare cases where such separation is not in place and it looks like this with additional barriers to keep the people away from the edge:

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Old February 27th, 2016, 02:24 AM   #5
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In Poland we still don't really have high-speed trains, we reach only 200 km/h on short section of tracks, the highest speed with which the trains go on a few major lines is 160 km/h - but when a train is crossing a station without stopping, it's just announced through the same sound system, through which the arrivals and departures of trains are announced, either by an employee, or by a computer speech synthesizer. If there is no such system at the given station, it's not announced. Even if there is, it's not always done so. Sometimes it happens that the sound system is old and the loudspeakers introduce distortions to the sound, and at the same time the person announcing the trains is speaking fast, so that it's really difficult to understand everything. In terms of that the speech synthesizers are better. But on the other hand, they lack of something... of a soul? And they are much less prepared for non-typical situations.

In Germany they also use a speech synthesizer - which sounds quite strange: "Achtung am Gleis - ein Zug fährt durch", and is quite tricky to understand that at all. It means "Attention on the track - a train goes through". Why on the track? It's forbidden to walk onto the tracks anyway... Much more sensible would be "Achtung am Bahnsteig" - "Attention on the platform".

Examples from Poland:



From 0:03: "Po torze pierwszym przy peronie pierwszym przejedzie pociąg ekspresowy. Proszę zachować ostrożność". The fragment in italics told so fast that it's almost impossible to understand. Meaning: "On the track 1 at the platform 1 an express train will go through. Please be careful".




From 0:10: "Po torze drugim przy peronie pierwszym przejedzie pociąg bez zatrzymania. Po torze drugim przy peronie pierwszym przejedzie pociąg bez zatrzymania. Proszę zachować ostrożność na peronie".

From 1:09: "Po torze pierwszym przy peronie pierwszym przejedzie pociąg bez zatrzymania. Po torze drugim przy peronie pierwszym przejedzie pociąg bez zatrzymania. Proszę zachować ostrożność na peronie".

Translation: "On the track two/one at the platform one a train will go through without stopping. On the track two/one at the platform one a train will go through without stopping. Please be careful on the platform". While in the previous case it seemed to be a live announcement, here it seems to be a recording. It's interesting that only after both announcements, both trains cross the station.

3:45: Again the same, for the platform 1 track 2.
8:03: Again. It's definitely a recording.



From the beginning, unfortunately only the end of the announcement: "...pociąg pospieszny. Prosimy zachować ostrożność, nie zbliżać się do krawędzi peronu".

Translation: "...a fast train*. Please be careful, don't come close to the edge of the platform".

* - a train category, like Eilzug in Germany in the past; in fact there is no such train category in Poland any more too, but they used this word for simplicity, I think.

And how the announcements of train delays look like - go to 0:09 in the same recording: "Pociąg InterRegio 'Rudawy' ze stacji Jelenia Góra do stacji Białystok przybędzie z opóźnieniem około 15 minut. Pociąg InterRegio 'Rudawy' ze stacji Jelenia Góra do stacji Białystok przybędzie z opóźnieniem około 15 minut. Opóźnienie pociągu może ulec zmianie". Translation: "The InterRegio train 'Rudawy' from the station Jelenia Góra to the station Białystok will arrive with about 15 minute delay. The InterRegio train 'Rudawy' from the station Jelenia Góra to the station Białystok will arrive with about 15 minute delay. The train delay may change".

And an example of a few train announcements from a station with a speach synthesizer (by the way, at this station the announcements have been computerised already for a really long time, but until not a long time ago, from 1996 do 2012, they were based on recordings):



0:09 (arrival announcement): "Pociąg Regio spółki Przewozy Regionalne ze stacji Toruń Główny wjedzie na tor przy peronie 4b" -> "A Regio train of the Przewozy Regionalne company from the station Toruń Główny will arrive on the track at the platform 4b"

0:21 (departure announcement): "Pociąg InterRegio 'Drwęca' do stacji Olsztyn Główny przez stacje: (?), Toruń Główny, Iława Główna, Ostróda - planowy odjazd godzina 15:15 - odjedzie z toru przy peronie drugim. Uwaga, podróżni: na torze przy peronie drugim podstawione są dwa pociągi. Prosimy o zwrócenie uwagi na tablice umieszczone na wagonach".
The fragments in italics were not to understand or almost not to understand. The speech synthesizers are also not so good in these terms.
Translation: "The InterRegio train 'Drwęca' to the station Olsztyn Główny through the stations: (?), Toruń Główny, Iława Główna, Ostróda - planned departure 15:15 - will depart from the track at the platform two. Attention, travellers: on the track at the platform two there are two trains waiting. Please have a look at the boards on the cars".

0:52 (arrival and departure announcement): "Pociąg Regio spółki Przewozy Regionalne ze stacji Leszno do stacji Konin - planowy odjazd godzina 15:30 - wjedzie na tor przy peronie pierwszym".
"A Regio train of the Przewozy Regionalne company from the station Leszno to the station Konin - planned departure 15:30 - will arrive on the track at the platform one".

Unfortunately there is no announcement of long-distance trains here (OK, there was the InterRegio one, but this was anyway very simple since it doesn't have many features that long-distance trains often have) - although they are much more complex.

Here is a long-distance train, also with a speech synthesizer:



"Uwaga, podróżni. Pociąg T. L. K. 'Gałczyński' ze stacji Szczecin Główny do stacji Lublin przez stacje: Choszczno, Krzyż, Poznań Główny, Konin, Warszawa Centralna - planowy odjazd godzina 12:01 - wjedzie na tor drugi przy peronie trzecim. Pociąg objęty obowiązkową rezerwacją miejsc. Wagony w kolejności od czoła pociągu - klasy pierwszej: numer 14. Następnie wagon barowy oraz wagony klasy drugiej numer: 15, 16, 17, 18, 19, 20, 21. Przesyłki konduktorskie przyjmuje i wydaje kierownik pociągu w wagonie numer... 16. Prosimy o zachowanie ostrożności i odsunięcie się od krawędzi peronu".

"Attention, travellers. The T. L. K. train (should be just TLK, but there were abnormally long intervals between) 'Gałczyński' from the station Szczecin Główny to the station Lublin through the stations: Choszczno, Krzyż, Poznań Główny, Konin, Warszawa Centralna - planned departure 12:01 - will arrive on the track two at the platform three. The train subject to obligatory seat reservation. The cars in the order from the train front - first class: number 14. Next the diner car and the second class cars number: 15 16, etc. up to 21. Railway parcels are taken and returned by the train manager in the car number... 16. Please be careful and stay away from the platform edge".
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Old February 28th, 2016, 01:37 AM   #6
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Nothing very hi speed in Ireland, but when an intercity goes by a station there is an automated message in English and Irish to Fan taobh thiar an líne buí/ Stay behind the yellow line.
Not sure if Dart stations make the same announcement everytime a commuter train goes by
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Old February 28th, 2016, 01:37 PM   #7
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No high speed rail here either but this seems to be the announcement for passing trains that don't stop.

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