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Old December 17th, 2015, 06:39 AM   #1
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China to demolition 200m skyscraper in Tianjin due to corruption!

What a pity!



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Old December 17th, 2015, 06:49 AM   #2
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You mean to demolish, not to demolition.
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Old December 29th, 2015, 07:52 AM   #3
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Old December 30th, 2015, 07:54 PM   #4
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this is quite big. the anti corruption laws are pretty crazy, it sounds great, but losing the spire of ping'an and sky city never getting a chance for approval leaves a bitter taste in my mouth.
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Old January 3rd, 2016, 11:43 PM   #5
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Are they structurally unsound?
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Old January 4th, 2016, 03:24 PM   #6
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A skyscraper that tall/large is going to be demolished all because of corruption? If such a demolition actually happened, that will be a devastating waste. I'm thinking that the skyscraper in Tianjin must have structural problems, or it must have violated building/zoning codes.
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Old January 4th, 2016, 06:02 PM   #7
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They were supposed to be 31-35 floors, but they topped out at 65 floors, 58 floors and 41 floors ILLEGALLY. That's why Chinese government want to demolish these towers, simply because they are ILLEGALLY TALL and they were not approved by the government.

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China is reportedly planning to demolish three new high-rise buildings, including one that is 65 stories high, as part of its ongoing campaign against corruption. The residential buildings, in the northern city of Tianjin, are up to 30 floors taller than originally planned and Chinese state media said this "serious breach of planning regulations" posed a major safety risk.

The three apartment buildings to be demolished make up the Waterfront Ginza development, owned by Zhao Jin, a wealthy real estate developer arrested last year in the corruption crackdown. Zhao’s father, who is also in detention for bribery and fraud, is a former secretary general of the Communist Party Committee of Jiangsu province.

According to its original plan, Waterfront Ginza was supposed to consist of two 31-story buildings and one 35-story building, as reported by Shanghai-based news website The Paper. However, when they were topped out in September, 2014, the buildings were actually 41, 58, and 65 stories tall (210m twins) respectively. One of them was a full 88 meters taller than was permitted. The developers are also reported to have “stolen floor area”, adding extra apartments on each floor so that the development’s total construction area is more than three times its planned size at some 360,000 square meters.
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The authorities' proposed solution – to demolish the buildings – has reportedly angered some residents, though officials have said that plans are in place for them to be compensated. However, state media pointed out that not only had the developer run out of funds, but the scale of illegal construction meant the building was unsafe. The Paper said the population density of the compound would be "too high", leading both to practical problems for the residents in their daily lives and also safety risks: if there were a fire, it claimed, the stairwells and fire exits would not be able to cope with dispersing up to 70 families from each floor.
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Old January 5th, 2016, 10:36 PM   #8
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Why don't they tell them just to take off the floors that were illegally built?
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Old January 6th, 2016, 12:50 PM   #9
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The other floors (except of that in advance) are illegaly constructed too. They are unsafe because they don't have enough space in case of fire to save people. The developer has ignored the safety concerns for this project, putting apartments for 70 families on each floor, then, he has added 30 floors to tallest illegaly, without the approve of the government or the city of Tianjin (I don't know how it works in China.)
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Old January 10th, 2016, 03:37 AM   #10
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do we have threads for the towers and are they in the SSP database?
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Old January 10th, 2016, 10:34 AM   #11
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We've have no thread for the towers because they were supposed to be, maybe, under the 100m mark too, and we've have no diagrams on SSP, also being actually two twins of 210m and one of 185m. Maybe you should add them as On Hold!
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Old January 11th, 2016, 12:27 AM   #12
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yes, i would like to add them, considering they would soon enter the database as the tallest buildings that got demolished (after the WTC)
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Old January 11th, 2016, 01:35 AM   #13
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Destroying those titanic buildings is an ecological catastropher!

They should be expropiated instead.
Too many materials were used for constructing them consuming natural ressources and labour hours.

I imagine they are not expropiated for not giving arguments to sinophobic occidental media to say comunist country expropiates private property ommiting why.
Occidental media is busy enough inventing cases for their Chinese permanent discredit campaign, let's imagine if such a building is expropiated!!!
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Old January 11th, 2016, 04:05 AM   #14
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Hopefully it'll be with an implosion. Though with the river that close, probably not
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Old January 17th, 2016, 07:34 PM   #15
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Hopefully it'll be with an implosion. Though with the river that close, probably not
The debris pile would be almost 140 feet tall and the angle of repose is 2:1 so it would be tough(but not impossible) not to keep it out of the river.
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Old October 19th, 2016, 12:01 AM   #16
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The towers are really huge. It's possible to measure them here: http://wikimapia.org/#lat=39.1177&lon=117.218&z=18 According to the satellite map, they're still in place.

They have almost 2,500 m² gross floor area each, which is 4x more than the surrounding buildings. If we assume 80 m² as the average apartment size, then all 3 buildings would contain around 4,000 units.
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Old January 24th, 2017, 09:02 AM   #17
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Ok so a year ago these buildings were supposed to be destroyed, but google maps still shows them. the images on maps are from may last year. Is it possible that the developer paid a fine or got a deal out of it to let the building stand? There is more to this story, which I would like to hear. After all this would be the biggest building destroyed outside of disasters and terrorist attacks.
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Old January 25th, 2017, 07:38 AM   #18
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I think this is part of the Manhattan replica project.
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Old January 27th, 2017, 07:16 PM   #19
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No it's not, it's in Tianjin downtown.
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They were supposed to be 31-35 floors, but they topped out at 65 floors, 58 floors and 41 floors ILLEGALLY. That's why Chinese government want to demolish these towers, simply because they are ILLEGALLY TALL and they were not approved by the government.
Which also raises questions about the strength of the construction and safety overall.
Nothing wasted with those ugly skysores, IMO.
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