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Old February 28th, 2008, 11:51 PM   #141
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Yeah, lot of people lost their relatives in war times.. should we stay at trees or what? Btw I know nearly everything about history of Europe, especially it's central part..
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Old February 29th, 2008, 09:46 AM   #142
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...Good Work...


why good work? good work at the destruction of the city or at the guy who collected the pictures and made the thread?
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Old February 29th, 2008, 03:20 PM   #143
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At the guy who collected the pictures and made the thread.

Man what did you think?
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Old February 29th, 2008, 04:22 PM   #144
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At the guy who collected the pictures and made the thread.

Man what did you think?
Someone complained about your post, so I asked instead of banning you outright. Nothing else.
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Old February 29th, 2008, 05:03 PM   #145
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I swore one time in this forum and i edited it a few minutes later ...

To thank the people who collected the pics is not forbidden (i hope so). You wanted to ban me because some people think this was a vitriolic remark or what?
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Old February 29th, 2008, 05:09 PM   #146
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remaining buildings the only building that was left on that street, i think its was left as a reminder
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Old February 29th, 2008, 06:10 PM   #147
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I swore one time in this forum and i edited it a few minutes later ...

To thank the people who collected the pics is not forbidden (i hope so). You wanted to ban me because some people think this was a vitriolic remark or what?
lol no, I won't ban you. Not now at least. Just wanted to know what you meant.
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Old March 1st, 2008, 02:48 AM   #148
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downtown
1935:

1945:

2005:




Old City:
1935:

1945:

2005:





Wola/Srodmiescie district:
1935

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2005:







1935:

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remaining buildings the only building that was left on that street, i think its was left as a reminder
and this:








Poniatowski Brige:
the bridge was destroyed by German troops during the Warsaw Uprising, on 13 September 1944. All spans were toppled, and only the lower piers survived.
(rebulit 1946)
Old pier:





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Old March 1st, 2008, 05:16 PM   #149
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Darhet.....such a great work !!

About the pictures...IMPRESSIVE, SAD, DEPRESSIVE....HOW MUCH WE ALL HAVE LOST IN THIS LAST TERRIBLE WAR !!!!!!
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Old March 2nd, 2008, 12:02 AM   #150
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Are there any reconstructions going on in Warsaw?
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Old March 2nd, 2008, 01:58 AM   #151
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After World War II -1945- Rebuilding of Warsaw began, the Old Town, The Royal Route,Royal Castle and many Church, Palaces was meticulously rebuilt. As many of the original bricks were reused as possible. The rubble was sifted for reusable decorative elements, which were reinserted into their original places. Bernardo Bellotto's 18th-century vedute, as well as pre-World-War II architecture students' drawings, were used as essential sources in the reconstruction effort.
Warsaw's Old Town has been placed on the UNESCO's list of World Heritage Sites as "an outstanding example of a near-total reconstruction of a span of history covering the 13th to the 20th century."
Bernardo Bellotto:
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Rebuilding









The reconstruction The Jabłonowskich’s Palace was completed Ten Years Ago. Before the war it functioned as a town-hall. The building was completely destroyed and after the war it was demolished. At the end of the 90’s the city reacquired the building or what remained of it, the clock tower and façade.




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Are there any reconstructions going on in Warsaw?
Now we are going to reconstruction of the Saxon Palace(from 17th century.) and some others building .
Project of the reconstruction which is going to start soon.








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At the moment - dug up basements and the Tomb of the Unknown Soldier in the middle:

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Old March 2nd, 2008, 03:02 AM   #152
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"who suffered more" contest?
That's our national speciality. I also can not stand it anymore, again and again, "Katyń", "WWII", "Nazis", "Soviets" blah blah blah

I would prefer to see more progress in my country.
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Old March 2nd, 2008, 03:32 AM   #153
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Its great to see all the reconstructions. I hope someday all cities destroyed in WWII can be reconstructed to their original beauty. Its impressive how much work was put into properly rebuilding the old part of Warsaw.
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Old March 3rd, 2008, 06:04 PM   #154
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I bet, in Warsaw they don't fight so much about the recontruction of the castle... They see it as a great chance to heal the city, right?
In Berlin the modern architects and some polititians will never stop argueing about the reconstruction of the "Stadtschloss".
They like to see Berlin torn apart.
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Old March 3rd, 2008, 06:34 PM   #155
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Actually there are more reconstructions currently in places like Minsk Belorussia and I don't think it's something bad... past is past we should build modern buildings and think about the future.
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Old March 3rd, 2008, 10:44 PM   #156
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I bet, in Warsaw they don't fight so much about the recontruction of the castle... They see it as a great chance to heal the city, right?
In Berlin the modern architects and some polititians will never stop argueing about the reconstruction of the "Stadtschloss".
They like to see Berlin torn apart.
I remember an interesting article that recently appeared in polish newspaper, about the problems with reconstructions in both cities. It says that in Warsaw, there's a political will to reconstruct Saxon Palace and Bruhl Palace, and there's money, but city authorities have some major problems with overcoming this investment (endless problems with recently discovered basements) while in Berlin there are problems with money, and the castle will be extraordinary expensive. I don't know about Berlin, but hopefully in Warsaw, the construction will start soon. I can't wait, its been quite some time since Jablonowskich's Palace was reconstructed in 1997:

I really like the way it looks, even though it's only facade and the clock tower, the rest of the building is modern
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Old March 4th, 2008, 02:10 AM   #157
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I bet, in Warsaw they don't fight so much about the recontruction of the castle... They see it as a great chance to heal the city, right?
In Berlin the modern architects and some polititians will never stop argueing about the reconstruction of the "Stadtschloss".
They like to see Berlin torn apart.
Plus like a million modernists. Eh but that movement will only last so long then it will fade like every other fad.
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Old March 16th, 2008, 04:20 AM   #158
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Planned destruction of Warsaw 1944 X- 1945 I after the fall of the Warsaw Uprising .
http://pl.youtube.com/watch?v=yasFbg...eature=related




" A Necropolis" (Warsaw)was liberated from the Nazis on 17 January 1945
http://pl.youtube.com/watch?v=ay-18kbfi14
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Life Returns III 1945:
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Old March 16th, 2008, 04:42 PM   #159
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It's such a shame what happened to Warsaw, the architecture was sublime prior to the war, and the Germans had to come and literally flatten the place, it's just a horrible loss (but nothing compared to all the lives lost).

But you know, the destruction is also a sign that they stood up and fought back. They could have kept their buildings, but fought back, so they can hold their head up high. It's a proud and noble city.

So the buildings can change, but spirit is what really counts. Even today, looking at the next gen of tallies planned in Warsaw you can see a real bright future ahead.
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pre-war Warsaw (1937-1938):

http://pl.youtube.com/watch?v=AqvfMJjJ8oE
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