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Old April 15th, 2017, 09:57 AM   #161
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PRR only built a pair of North River Tunnels but two pairs of East River Tunnels. Probably a pair for NEC through operations and a pair for LIRR terminal. Other PRR trains terminated at Exchange Place, NJ. The addition of other commuter railroads from NJ to NY Penn Station contrary to original design caused most of congestion today. It is hoped that East Side Access project will relieve NY Penn Station from its current capacity constraint.
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Old April 22nd, 2017, 02:57 PM   #162
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Work to begin this spring on Penn Station-Moynihan Train Hall complex

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This spring, the 650,000 commuters who travel through Penn Station daily may finally start to witness Governor Cuomo’s $1.6 billion plan to revamp what he called the “overcrowded, decrepit and claustrophobic” station into a more spacious and high-tech transit hub. As the Daily News reports, the first phase of the overall Moynihan Station Development Project will begin soon, extending Penn Station’s West End Concourse to reduce congestion. The second phase will transform the James A. Farley Post Office into the new Moynihan Train Hall, which will hold more than 112,000 square feet of retail and 588,000 square feet of office space, in addition to new ticketing and waiting areas for Amtrak and Long Island Railroad passengers...
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Old May 13th, 2017, 10:48 AM   #163
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It's happening. NYC will soon be rid of its embarrassing train station. Woo!
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Old May 13th, 2017, 11:23 AM   #164
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Yeah, the current Penn Station is awful. I wonder how this along Manhattan West will transform the neighborhood. I can imnagine that a lot of property around has huge amounts of air rights left, which might result in more tower being build there.
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Old May 21st, 2017, 04:48 PM   #165
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The pros and cons of privatizing Penn Station, explained

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Who can do a better job running New York's cramped, confusing and congested Penn Station? A private company, a consortium between two commuter railroads and Amtrak, or just Amtrak?

The current relationship must change, in which Penn Station's landlord, Amtrak, owned by the federal government, makes major decisions even though it runs fewer trains than tenants NJ Transit and the Long Island Rail Road, experts and public officials said.

"We're stuck with something set up with poor foresight in 1976," said Martin Robins, director emeritus of the Voorhees Transportation Institute at Rutgers University. "We have been living with the results and commuters have been suffering for more than 40 years."

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Old May 21st, 2017, 06:15 PM   #166
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No privatization should occur ... ever ...
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Old May 28th, 2017, 07:28 PM   #167
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A 3-Part Plan to Rebuild New York's Old Penn Station


May 4th, 2015

By ERIC JAFFE

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Old May 29th, 2017, 11:52 AM   #168
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They should totally rebuild it.
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Old May 29th, 2017, 12:40 PM   #169
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it's not going to happen!
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Old May 31st, 2017, 01:01 AM   #170
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The biggest disaster of the 60s mindset. A beautiful building, maybe the most beautiful train station of the world, torn down by a fking box. What a shame if it would never be rebuild
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Old May 31st, 2017, 11:55 PM   #171
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No privatization should occur ... ever ...
As long as New York City and state are run by clueless liberal pigs, enjoy the same mediocrity under government control. British and Japanese railways were privatized, and look what has been accomplished in the last few decades.
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Old June 1st, 2017, 09:18 AM   #172
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British railways are very expensive -even with high ridership- and Japanese railways -although ridership is also very high- make their profit mostly from the land they have been given on which they built malls, offices and housing. It is quite therefore difficult to compare situations.

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Old June 1st, 2017, 06:25 PM   #173
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We should be aware that Farley Post Office was not designed to be a train station.
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Old June 1st, 2017, 06:38 PM   #174
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clueless liberal pigs
Seriously?? Please tone down the rhetoric.
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As long as New York City and state are run by clueless liberal pigs, enjoy the same mediocrity under government control. British and Japanese railways were privatized, and look what has been accomplished in the last few decades.
Right Wingers could care less about about transit other than highways and cul-de-sacs.
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The biggest disaster of the 60s mindset. A beautiful building, maybe the most beautiful train station of the world, torn down by a fking box. What a shame if it would never be rebuild
Don't forget Singer Building being replaced with an generic black "international" box.

I know it's very unlikely, but if they somehow rebuild old Penn Station, it would one of the best decisions ever made in the history of architecture.
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British railways are very expensive -even with high ridership- and Japanese railways -although ridership is also very high- make their profit mostly from the land they have been given on which they built malls, offices and housing. It is quite therefore difficult to compare situations.
Amtrak is already expensive, even with the NEC competing successfully with domestic flights. American rail companies make their profit from freight, but if incentive and/or less government in the way exists, they would be willing and able to reintroduce passenger service, either of their own or taking over the respective Amtrak routes.

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Right Wingers could care less about about transit other than highways and cul-de-sacs.
False. We want things done properly like the private sector did when they first built our railroads and grand stations, and the government has and likely will never been able to do it as the main stakeholder.

If the left in NY cared about transit, they wouldn't be rebuilding LGA with its runways which aren't long enough for the airplanes it serves, and instead sell or lease the land to fund an expansion of JFK and/or EWR to accommodate the flights. If the left cared about transit, they would work with Trump, who is pro-transit, instead of parroting false Russian conspiracy bullshit on CNN all day, because their beloved Hildabeast didn't win, who by the way, helped create many these blunders from poor leadership and corruption.
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Old June 1st, 2017, 11:39 PM   #178
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Amtrak is already expensive, even with the NEC competing successfully with domestic flights. American rail companies make their profit from freight, but if incentive and/or less government in the way exists, they would be willing to reintroduce passenger service, either of their own or taking over the respective Amtrak routes.



False. We want things done properly like the private sector did when they first built our railroads and grand stations, and the government has never been able to do it as the main stakeholder.

If the left cared about transit, they wouldn't be rebuilding LGA with its runways which aren't long enough for the airplanes it serves, and instead sell or lease the land to fund an expansion of JFK and/or EWR to accommodate the flights. If the left cared about transit, they would work with Trump, who is pro-transit, instead of parroting baseless Russian conspiracy bullshit on CNN all day, because their beloved Hildabeast didn't win, who by the way, helped create many these blunders from poor leadership and corruption.


Yes, i'm sure Republicans would be ok with democratic leadership appropriating the funds for rebuilding our nations airports, railways, and funding the necessary mass transit that is needed.

You're obviously a nutter and in the Trump cult.
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Old June 2nd, 2017, 12:00 AM   #179
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"I'm not denying a couple Republicans are at odds with Trump, but if you believe Democrats get stuff done other than pork barrel "muh legacy" pet projects, you must be a nutter. Remember all those Obamabucks which disappeared for "shovel-ready projects?"
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Old June 2nd, 2017, 10:14 PM   #180
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This is not the politics thread. Let's keep it about Penn station development news.
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