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Old January 11th, 2016, 12:48 AM   #1
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Renovations wich gone wrong,very wrong.

Dedicated to historic buildings that looked awful and after reconstruction look even worse

Historic vila in Zagreb

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and after "reconstruction"


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Old January 11th, 2016, 12:58 AM   #2
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Manor house Janković

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Old January 12th, 2016, 03:43 AM   #3
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They need to bring the wrecking ball in and then.. give it another try
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Old January 13th, 2016, 10:47 AM   #4
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Not the worst examples, I would say "Reconstruction which gone not so good".

This is what I would call "wrong, very wrong" (not a visualization, real colors)

krasnaolomouc.cz/wp-content/uploads/2015/03/koule-revers.jpg

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Old January 13th, 2016, 11:13 AM   #5
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Not the worst examples, I would say "Reconstruction which gone not so good".

This is what I would call "wrong, very wrong" (not a visualization, real colors)

krasnaolomouc.cz/wp-content/uploads/2015/03/koule-revers.jpg

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That... is terrible. Especially since it didn't look that bad to begin with. Where is this?

The longer you look at it, the worse it gets. Not only is the result awful, they actually seem to have destroyed a lot of original details, such as the window frames and the frieze.
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Old January 13th, 2016, 11:52 AM   #6
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now that is UGLY.
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Old January 13th, 2016, 03:35 PM   #7
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Historic hotel Kvarner in Opatija, Croatia


The look after renovation



closely resembled

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Old January 13th, 2016, 03:54 PM   #8
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Operetta, Opatija

It is difficult to list all what went wrong here.

Original look



and after renovation in shopping center




Stairs and elevator are set in the middle of the former concert hall , loggias and balconies walled





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More pathetic than this stunningly bad outcome is the likely fact that the architect is showering himself with self praise on his "accomplishment".
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Old January 14th, 2016, 12:23 AM   #10
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Barbarians... D:
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Old January 14th, 2016, 03:30 AM   #11
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Budapest...

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Old January 15th, 2016, 12:52 AM   #12
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Once again I see the wrong use of the word "reconstruction" which implies the rebuilding of a largely gone building.

The thread title and intro should say renovation instead.


Btw, the Polish forum has some very cruel examples within the thread "Architektura gargamele", perhaps I'll pick some. Or someone else does.
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Old January 15th, 2016, 10:16 PM   #13
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Once again I see the wrong use of the word "reconstruction" which implies the rebuilding of a largely gone building.

The thread title and intro should say renovation instead.
I've come to the conclusion that maybe our German word Rekonstruktion doesn't really equal reconstruction in other countries.

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More broadly, such as under the ICOMOS Burra Charter, "reconstruction" means returning a damaged building to a known earlier state by the introduction of new materials.[1] It is related to the architectural concepts of restoration (repairing existing building fabric) and preservation (the prevention of further decay), wherein the most extreme form of reconstruction is creating a replica of a destroyed building.

More narrowly, such as under the Secretary of Interior's Standards in the United States, "reconstruction" is "the act or process of depicting, by means of new construction, the form, features, and detailing of a non-surviving site, landscape, building, structure, or object for the purpose of replicating its appearance at a specific period of time and in its historic location."[2]
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Recons...(architecture)
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That... is terrible. Especially since it didn't look that bad to begin with. Where is this?

The longer you look at it, the worse it gets. Not only is the result awful, they actually seem to have destroyed a lot of original details, such as the window frames and the frieze.
It's located in Olomouc, Czech Republic, and it's considered as one of the worst examples of arrogance of the owner in recent years in CZ.
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Old January 18th, 2016, 03:26 PM   #15
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Tiaren, I'm aware of the somewhat different use of 'reconstruction' in the anglosphere (US especially). It was the same in the former East bloc / GDR. But from all I can see the term has made a major transformation in most languages and nowadays should be used more precisely. Revitalisation/transformation is a better word for the 2nd use implied in your quote.
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Budapest...

Actually that looks as if the top part of the building was lost (through fire or war) and that it would have been too expensive to rebuild as it was. After all the ground floor seems largely untouched. It doesn't seem so much like a bad renovation, but having to make-do with the circumstances.

Having said that I do not know of this building so that is mere conjecture on my part.
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Actually that looks as if the top part of the building was lost (through fire or war) and that it would have been too expensive to rebuild as it was. After all the ground floor seems largely untouched. It doesn't seem so much like a bad renovation, but having to make-do with the circumstances.

Having said that I do not know of this building so that is mere conjecture on my part.
It was built for the Hungarian Royal Ministry of Finance by architect Alexander Fellner.

The top floors suffered serious, but not irreparable damage in WW2.

The building was originally designed in late neo-Gothic style to comply with the style of the Matthias Church.

After the war, the communist politicians and the modernist architects of the era condemned this style as "aristocratic" "too ornate", "convoluted" "excessive" and "too german". So after war the building underwent a process of intensive "simplification" and "rationalization" to make it more "functional". This is the result.

"Lecsendesítés" which literally translates as "calming something down" was a common phrase amongst modernist Hungarian architects who were put in charge of the planned reconstruction of Buda Castle after the war.



After the war:

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Old January 22nd, 2016, 12:21 PM   #18
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Reconstruciton of historic villa on Lošinj - Croatia



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Old January 22nd, 2016, 02:24 PM   #19
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Well, it obviously isn't finished yet...

Though the loss of original substance is to be pitied, of course.
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Well, it obviously isn't finished yet...

Though the loss of original substance is to be pitied, of course.
That, and the fact that the top floor went from two to three windows shows that historical accuracy isn't high on their list of priorities..

Also, again the original building looks quite good. Difficult to judge from a single picture, of course, but did it really have to be torn down?
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