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Old February 2nd, 2016, 05:01 AM   #1
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US Skyline Power Rankings

I had some extra time today, so with the help of Wikipedia, decided to put together a top10 list of U.S. skylines. My criteria was this: Number of 500-799 foot towers completed, (worth 2 points each), Number of 800+ foot towers completed (worth 3 points each), and towers over 800 feet under construction (worth 1 additonal point). Here are my results...(disclaimer, not scientific, just based on my criteria).

1. New York City (power ranking 306)
2. Chicago (power ranking 179)
3. Houston (power ranking 65)
4. Los Angeles (power ranking 49)
5. San Francisco (power ranking 43)
6. Dallas (power ranking 40)
7. Miami (power ranking 35)
8. Boston (power ranking 34)
9. Atlanta (power ranking 33)
10. Seattle (power ranking 29)

runner-up: Philadelphia (power ranking 26)

This is based on my criteria, nothing else. You can argue that towers under 500 feet count, but I am using 500 feet as a skyline indicator.
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Old February 2nd, 2016, 10:28 PM   #2
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A true power ranking should distinguish between office towers and residential ones, assigning lower weights for slender condo towers and greater weights for beefy office towers.
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Old February 3rd, 2016, 03:25 AM   #3
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A true power ranking should distinguish between office towers and residential ones, assigning lower weights for slender condo towers and greater weights for beefy office towers.
That is a valid point. However, I was going just on height, as picking through the residential/commercial/hotel differences would have been too much work!
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Old February 3rd, 2016, 05:30 AM   #4
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A good methodology. Can you add other Western cities to the mix like London or Melbourne?
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Los Angeles (18,688,022) - Miami (6,723,472) - Minneapolis (3,894,820) - New York (23,689,255) - Orlando (3,202,927) - Philadelphia (7,179,357) - Phoenix (4,661,537)
Portland (3,160,488) - San Diego (3,317,749) - San Francisco (8,751,807) - Seattle (4,684,516) - Tampa (3,032,171) - Washington (9,665,892)
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A good methodology. Can you add other Western cities to the mix like London or Melbourne?
Thanks for the challenge! I will try. In the meantime, please accept my Canadian power rankings, which I did not include.

Toronto: 114 power ranking (which would put it #3 in North America)
Calgary: 30 power ranking (very nice, and beats Vancouver big by my criteria)
Vancouver: 4 power ranking, (only 2 above 500 ft.)

I'm sorry did not research, Edmonton, Winnipeg, Ottawa, or Montreal.

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Old February 3rd, 2016, 07:08 AM   #7
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I went back and re-checked your numbers since Wikipedia is off (for New York, it cuts off before showing the 500' buildings, so you missed quite a few there). Here's the data from Skyscraper Center (Council on Tall Buildings and Urban Habitat) using your methodology, which I quite like. Most cities got a bump since SkyscraperCenter's database is more complete, but a few did drop (mostly because SkyscraperCenter labels towers as Complete only after they are partially habitable, not after they Top Out).

Atlanta 35
Austin 6
Baltimore 4
Boston 32
Calgary 29
Chicago 229
Dallas 40
Detroit 14
Honolulu 0
Houston 69
Las Vegas 28
London 29
Los Angeles 47
Lyons 4
Melbourne 62
Miami-Miami Beach-Sunny Isles Beach 79
Minneapolis 16
Montreal 12
New York-Jersey City 499
Oklahoma City 5
Panama City 96
Paris-La Defense 30
Philadelphia 24
Pittsburgh 20
San Francisco 41
Seattle 27
Sydney 61
Tokyo 232
Toronto-Mississauga 88
Tulsa 8
Vancouver-Burnaby 6
Washington 0

So in North America I have...
1. New York 499 (will pass 500 soon since there's quite a bit of tall buildings under Prep. Liberty Rising in Jersey City (900') just broke ground)
2. Chicago 229
3. Panama City 96
4. Toronto 88
5. Miami Area 79
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Los Angeles (18,688,022) - Miami (6,723,472) - Minneapolis (3,894,820) - New York (23,689,255) - Orlando (3,202,927) - Philadelphia (7,179,357) - Phoenix (4,661,537)
Portland (3,160,488) - San Diego (3,317,749) - San Francisco (8,751,807) - Seattle (4,684,516) - Tampa (3,032,171) - Washington (9,665,892)

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Old February 3rd, 2016, 07:22 AM   #8
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Here's the Top 5 in North America assuming every tower currently under construction is completed:

Chicago 235 +6
Miami 126 +47
New York 577 +78
Panama City 101 +5
Toronto 134 +46

In effect...
1. New York 577
2. Chicago 235
3. Toronto 134
4. Miami Area 126
5. Panama City 99

^ So these numbers are a worst case scenario for these cities in the coming years.

In Oz right now it's Melbourne 62, Sydney 61. So for the first time in decades (if not ever), Melbourne has become the best skyline in Australia.

Assuming all U/C are completed, then we get:
Melbourne 93 +31
Sydney-Chatswood-Parramatta 71 +10

And adding Brisbane for fun:
Brisbane 25 +5
Melbourne 93 +31
Sydney-Chatswood-Parramatta 71 +10
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Los Angeles (18,688,022) - Miami (6,723,472) - Minneapolis (3,894,820) - New York (23,689,255) - Orlando (3,202,927) - Philadelphia (7,179,357) - Phoenix (4,661,537)
Portland (3,160,488) - San Diego (3,317,749) - San Francisco (8,751,807) - Seattle (4,684,516) - Tampa (3,032,171) - Washington (9,665,892)
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I went back and re-checked your numbers since Wikipedia is off (for New York, it cuts off before showing the 500' buildings, so you missed quite a few there). Here's the data from Skyscraper Center (Council on Tall Buildings and Urban Habitat) using your methodology, which I quite like. Most cities got a bump since SkyscraperCenter's database is more complete, but a few did drop (mostly because SkyscraperCenter labels towers as Complete only after they are partially habitable, not after they Top Out).

Atlanta 35
Austin 6
Baltimore 4
Boston 32
Calgary 29
Chicago 229
Dallas 40
Detroit 14
Honolulu 0
Houston 69
Las Vegas 28
London 29
Los Angeles 47
Lyons 4
Melbourne 62
Miami-Miami Beach-Sunny Isles Beach 79
Minneapolis 16
Montreal 12
New York-Jersey City 499
Oklahoma City 5
Panama City 96
Paris-La Defense 30
Philadelphia 24
Pittsburgh 20
San Francisco 41
Seattle 27
Sydney 61
Tokyo 232
Toronto-Mississauga 88
Tulsa 8
Vancouver-Burnaby 6
Washington 0

So in North America I have...
1. New York 499 (will pass 500 soon since there's quite a bit of tall buildings under Prep. Liberty Rising in Jersey City (900') just broke ground)
2. Chicago 229
3. Panama City 96
4. Toronto 88
5. Miami Area 79
That is fair. I didn't include many of your cities. I also didn't use the same stats, so there are bound to be differences, but I can see that the general US stats are in the right order. I also noted that my list was not scientific, so these lists can be subjective. But thanks! (BTW, I only used Miami City, not Miami area, for what it is worth...if we get into metro areas the numbers become skewed again, such as Bellevue to Seattle, Ft. Worth to Dallas, New Jersey to New York, on and on!) Atlanta is one example of suburban areas inside the city limits. Houston, too.
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Old February 3rd, 2016, 07:34 AM   #10
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Beijing 44
Dubai 327
Guangzhou 170
Hong Kong is at 583
Sao Paulo 22
Shanghai 245
Shenzhen 183

So of the ones listed so far..
1. Hong Kong 583
2. New York 499
3. Dubai 327
4. Shanghai 245
5. Tokyo 232
6. Chicago 229
7. Shenzhen 183
8. Guangzhou 170

And that's assuming China's figures are correct. I suspect many towers are missing from Western databases, so their real figures could be much higher.
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Los Angeles (18,688,022) - Miami (6,723,472) - Minneapolis (3,894,820) - New York (23,689,255) - Orlando (3,202,927) - Philadelphia (7,179,357) - Phoenix (4,661,537)
Portland (3,160,488) - San Diego (3,317,749) - San Francisco (8,751,807) - Seattle (4,684,516) - Tampa (3,032,171) - Washington (9,665,892)
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Well isn't this thread called the US Skyline Power Rankings?

How is this thread viable now when we start including cities that are not even in the US now?
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Well isn't this thread called the US Skyline Power Rankings?

How is this thread viable now when we start including cities that are not even in the US now?
Well, a poster requested world information, and then it took a new life. But, I agree, this was meant to be about US cities.
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