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Old September 21st, 2017, 10:07 PM   #2541
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OH MY GOD .. this has got so fat now ... the bulb is now stretched to almost all of it!! The design keep on changing constantly .. this might become a real building now
The spire seems much longer again, too.
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Old September 22nd, 2017, 08:44 AM   #2542
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There's still cables attached in that render. 210 floors might just be the total number from base to tip not necessarily the number of occupied floors.
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Old September 22nd, 2017, 12:01 PM   #2543
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The chemical reaction in the concrete can heat a lot, how do they compensate this here??
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Old September 22nd, 2017, 12:06 PM   #2544
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Maybe They just didn't paid much attention to it and the render ended up like this as it was not the main building to show in the video but let's just hope that!
Honestly speaking I agree with Gabriel, I don't think it's a mistake. In another render of the Address Harbour Point, the Dubai Creek Tower is also pictured with a bigger core, as shown below. The possibilities of a wrong render are lesser with 2 pictures showing the exact same design let's watch and see if this really becomes a full-fledged building!

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Old September 22nd, 2017, 12:22 PM   #2545
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I canīt wait until it`s over ground. We will be flooded with u/c pictures
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Old September 22nd, 2017, 08:28 PM   #2546
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Photographers will need strong tele lenses when it gets above 1000 m.


I remember that the pictures during Burj Khalifa construction were also very detailed. Even of the spire above 800 m.
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Old September 24th, 2017, 10:23 AM   #2547
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So, observation, if I may. I mean to ask this in the fairest (and polite) sense. So, we are aware that Wiki, CTBUH, and others define a skyscraper as (broadly speaking), a tall structure with habitable or occupied floors throughout. Since Dubai and Emaar are all about pushing the limits and testing what can be done, who is to say that they aren't also testing the definition of this concept?

If a room has a ceiling, floor, and walls high enough for people comfortably, then what? I would imagine in the modern definition that okay, such room must either have windows or access to breathable air through ventilation as well as lighting, heating, cooling, plumbing fixtures, electricity etc. But how far can we stretch the definition? A non-air tight empty concrete room with a light and a chair is certainly "occupiable" even if it is very Spartan and uncomfortable psychologically. Jail cells can be occupied. But jail cells usually also have electricity, a toilet, and the bare minimum space to sleep in.

What I am trying to broadly ask of the concept, is if Emaar could achieve the "Fit for occupancy" requirement of a skyscraper with floors throughout with something as minimal as 4 hotel rooms on a floor? One large meeting room per floor and nothing else? Must every floor be reachable by an elevator, or if not that, then is stairwell-access alone sufficient? Would there need to be a bathroom / water closet on every floor?

I am not attempting to degrade the beautiful grandness this tower will be, but at the same time it seems too thin to have occupancy like that of a traditional apartment building or office. If they were to make every floor "boutique" or as the old concept of Pentominium had, with one luxury apartment per floor (yet fully furnished), that could certainly fit the requirement. I don't think this tower will end up as 190 floors of one bedroom apartments and 20+ floors of observatory but I think you can see the silliness.

I am just curious as Gabriel and others said that if they could make enough uses for all of the floors for a true, usable floor count, or are they going to stretch the definition of what the record keepers judge as "habitable"? Do the floors simply need to be accessible by the public or a private individual? Do they need modern staples like water, bathrooms, electricity, etc.?

For a tower of 200+ floors, they must hold something after all.

Either way, excited to see this structure rise up! Why not just go for "tallest tower" when they can nip Jeddah Tower's record too and also claim the tallest building? If it can stand without the cables and they are there for decoration then isn't that enough?
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Old September 24th, 2017, 03:11 PM   #2548
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I just hope it will actually be 200+ floors
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Old September 24th, 2017, 04:34 PM   #2549
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Well Emaar, like what they did with BK, wants to break all records with this one, and it seems will break all labels as well One of a kind wonder rising from the sand
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Old September 25th, 2017, 09:27 AM   #2550
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Hi everybody.
I've heard that the tower will be the main attractor during Dubai Exo 2020. Does it mean that it will be completed by then (which is less than 3 yr) or what?

Anyway, DCT is a great piece of arcitectural art and engineering. Probably, safe to say, one of the greatest. So awesome it is to live in such a marvelous time.

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Old September 25th, 2017, 09:42 AM   #2551
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Hi everybody.
I've heard that the tower will be the main attractor during Dubai Exo 2020. Does it mean that it will be completed by then (which is less than 3 yr) or what?

Anyway, DCT is a great piece of arcitectural art and engineering. Probably, safe to say, one of the greatest. So awesome it is to live in such a marvelous time.
The greatest! if it ends up with the information in the thread topic being all right and true
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Old September 25th, 2017, 09:53 AM   #2552
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Hi everybody.
I've heard that the tower will be the main attractor during Dubai Exo 2020. Does it mean that it will be completed by then (which is less than 3 yr) or what?
EXPO is the main attraction .. this is a side show

Finished or not this will keep people drooling over Dubai .. the construction of this tower is a one of a kind show by itself
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Old September 25th, 2017, 10:54 AM   #2553
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I can't share drawings for various reasons, but I can tell that there is no space at all available for any "real" usage until refugee floors are reached (floor L14 / 711m). All "floors" below that are occupied by elevator shafts, stairs and the massive anchor points for the supporting cables.

There are 8 elevator shafts located in the core (2 north, 2 west etc.). There is also two VIP elevator shafts on the outer edges (I.e. west and east) while anchor points are (north and south). Stairs are located in the very center core.

Total amount of floors are still referred to as L55 (at level 1146m). There is a "new" elevator shaft added in latest revision from technical spire enter (L55 / 1007m) going up L55 / 1124m. Funny as all floors from spire entry to spire top are referred as Level 55, 1-27).

It seems highest reachable floor for any non-technical staff would be "L54 VVIP OBS" at level 1000.2m.

Some revolving balconies are in the layouts now too.

210 floors are probably correct if counting floor slabs, but inhabited/used floors are 55.
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Old September 25th, 2017, 11:11 AM   #2554
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I can't share drawings for various reasons, but I can tell that there is no space at all available for any "real" usage until refugee floors are reached (floor L14 / 711m). All "floors" below that are occupied by elevator shafts, stairs and the massive anchor points for the supporting cables.

There are 8 elevator shafts located in the core (2 north, 2 west etc.). There is also two VIP elevator shafts on the outer edges (I.e. west and east) while anchor points are (north and south). Stairs are located in the very center core.

Total amount of floors are still referred to as L55 (at level 1146m). There is a "new" elevator shaft added in latest revision from technical spire enter (L55 / 1007m) going up L55 / 1124m. Funny as all floors from spire entry to spire top are referred as Level 55, 1-27).

It seems highest reachable floor for any non-technical staff would be "L54 VVIP OBS" at level 1000.2m.

Some revolving balconies are in the layouts now too.

210 floors are probably correct if counting floor slabs, but inhabited/used floors are 55.
Thanks, that does clarify a lot of things! But wow, madness! Excited to see this be going up.
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Old September 25th, 2017, 01:29 PM   #2556
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I'm not that good in floors counting

Which one is the official floor count? 210 or 55?

Explanation of the count would be appreciated
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Old September 25th, 2017, 01:46 PM   #2557
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There is also two VIP elevator shafts on the outer edges (I.e. west and east)
It will be panoramic elevators?
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Old September 25th, 2017, 01:46 PM   #2558
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I'm not that good in floors counting

Which one is the official floor count? 210 or 55?

Explanation of the count would be appreciated


Official? I think nothing is official until now.
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Old September 25th, 2017, 02:10 PM   #2559
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Official? I think nothing is official until now.
Maybe I didn't explain my point very well

So, what's the true floor count (roof over roof)? 55 or 210?

Or is it totally unknown? there is a big gap between 55 and 210
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Old September 25th, 2017, 02:30 PM   #2560
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when we get an official number we would know! 210 is the total number of floors within them there is 55 that are habitable .. but that is only preliminary information .. nothing is official .. when we know will let you know
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