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Old June 28th, 2016, 04:48 PM   #661
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They're filling up a lake with sand. And they live in Arabia.

What.

Shouldn't they be encouraging water?
Not sure if you're serious or just joking
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Old June 28th, 2016, 04:59 PM   #662
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TBH I love this masterplan but I would like it a bit better if they added more waterways in it! I loved the lagoons idea and its sad to see it go. I am not sure if he's sarcastic or serious but I think there's a point in what he's saying.

Plus there is Emaar, I just don't know what's up with Emaar although I love their towers but they have a way to underwhelm any masterplan their hands touch.

The lagoons is one example, another one is Bawadi which was taken over by Emaar which instead of going with what I thought was the most exciting project and masterplan in Dubai they changed it and turned it into a Villa community!!!! As if Dubailand doesn't have enough of those.

Anyways my point is they went from this:



To this: (minus the twins)



Which isn't bad at all but not unique enough! That's my humble opinion anyways
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Old June 28th, 2016, 05:28 PM   #663
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Guys, have you been to Jumeirah Islands any day after 5p.m. at winter time? Water create a very considerable amount of issues.

Whisky Peak, the comparison was said between the 2 identical latter pictures. You missed the former one which was posted prior to the latter one.
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Old June 28th, 2016, 05:48 PM   #664
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Not sure if you're serious or just joking
I'm quite serious. You are in a desert. Shouldn't water be a priority for retention? Especially fresh water. And even sea water can help cool things off.
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Old June 28th, 2016, 05:51 PM   #665
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@Gabriel900, yea I thought he meant that water is precious in the desert (eben though there's a whole sea in Dubai), but if he/she meant to say what you repeated extensively, he's right.
Water is pretty nice to look at if it's 38 degrees outside. On the other hand, it divides the city a lot. The first masterplan has way too much water in my opinion, which makes it inconvenient to walk from place to place.
Something in between would be perfect, e.g. a canal or two going through the city.
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Old June 28th, 2016, 06:12 PM   #666
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Guys, have you been to Jumeirah Islands any day after 5p.m. at winter time? Water create a very considerable amount of issues.
JI lakes are fresh stagnant water so I am sure they have problems like mosquitoes and foul odors which are greatly reduced in Dubai Creek Harbour just for the fact that its connected to the sea which makes it not really stagnant and its salt water. Now technically speaking, salty water can cause faster corrosion hence higher expenses to maintain everything but then again, having bodies of water all around have as well some benefits I presume.


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@Gabriel900, yea I thought he meant that water is precious in the desert (eben though there's a whole sea in Dubai), but if he/she meant to say what you repeated extensively, he's right.
Water is pretty nice to look at if it's 38 degrees outside. On the other hand, it divides the city a lot. The first masterplan has way too much water in my opinion, which makes it inconvenient to walk from place to place.
Something in between would be perfect, e.g. a canal or two going through the city.
Yeah I won't mind fewer watery connections in the masterplan, but what bothers me is the complete lack off it. Connectivity issue can be solved by extending pedestrian access on all bridges built as well as having some pedestrian bridges.
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Old June 28th, 2016, 06:54 PM   #667
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Are all the waterways to be filled up with sand or just reduced in size?
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Old June 30th, 2016, 05:12 PM   #668
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has anyone seen the remaining designs?

"Calatrava’s firm was competing against six others from around the world."

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Old June 30th, 2016, 05:16 PM   #669
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Old June 30th, 2016, 08:01 PM   #670
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I think Calatrava is the best proposal, the 3rd is too bulky while the 4th is another Burj khalifa/Jeddah tower clone ... Nothing new design-wise.

I would like to see the remaining proposals cz what we have here is underwhelming.
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Old June 30th, 2016, 08:29 PM   #671
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Interesting to see some of the other proposals.
The second one looks very strange, the fourth by SOM is unique like a second KT.
And the third one...mhmm....i would like to see more detailed renders to judge thoughtfully.
But comparing these three others with Calatrava's concept it's nonetheless a simple decision
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Old June 30th, 2016, 10:01 PM   #672
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they certainly chose the best one
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Old July 1st, 2016, 01:06 PM   #673
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There was that one proposle with thre legs and another one with a big giant circlular hole that i thought were very unique and interesting, i saw them in the video, can't find any images of them..
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Old July 1st, 2016, 01:07 PM   #674
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Some of these designs looked like they were attacked by spiders, specially the second one.
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Old July 1st, 2016, 09:20 PM   #675
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I haven't seen this video. How can i find it?
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Old July 1st, 2016, 10:46 PM   #676
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Some of these designs looked like they were attacked by spiders, specially the second one.
Nice observation! Indeed, threads are characteristic to relatively few things in nature, and spider webs are among them.
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Old July 2nd, 2016, 03:40 AM   #677
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I haven't seen this video. How can i find it?
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Old July 2nd, 2016, 10:06 AM   #678
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Definitely there won't be any swing-opening grilles of that scale on the top (like in Calatrava's design). In this climate, they are simply not required to be opening. The mashrabiya grilles would better stay in place all the time. Why would they make the opening windows around 100 meters tall? It's a ridiculous size.
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Old July 2nd, 2016, 02:40 PM   #679
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I posted the wrong videos, the other proposals are showen here:



Some of them look sick !
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Old July 2nd, 2016, 09:23 PM   #680
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^ Calatrava's is by far the best just because the 2nd one was IMO, hideous and impractical while the third design was not much of anything and the 4th one is far to similar to the KT and then the two tallest structures in the world would look almost identical.
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