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Old November 9th, 2016, 06:24 PM   #1201
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There isn't webcam in the area as in the Jeddah Tower?
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Old November 11th, 2016, 11:15 AM   #1202
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Emaar extended deadline for companies offers to implement the Tower to November 13
Again they extended deadline to 27 Nov!
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Old November 11th, 2016, 06:10 PM   #1203
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Old news. We knew this from when it was approved.
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Old November 11th, 2016, 10:32 PM   #1204
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His Highness Mohammed bin Rashid describes the new tower's unique architectural masterpiece as equally great and glorious to Burj Khalifa tower and the famous "Eiffel" Tower and will rival them.
I wouldn't call it "unique" and a "masterpiece", because there are similar towers built long time ago, one of them is actually quite similar in its structure to the tower named The Tower:


Sydney Tower


Stratosphere Las Vegas


Calgary Tower


Sky Tower (Auckland)


Central Radio and TV Tower (Beijing)


KL Tower (Kuala Lumpur)


Tashkent Tower


Milad Tower (Tehran)


Fernsehturm Berlin


Tianjin Radio & TV Tower


Liberation Tower (Kuwait)

And by the way, Menara Alor Setar, Space Needle (Seattle) and Zhongyuan Tower are more architectural edifices:




There are dozens of them around the world, actually. This image should give an idea that some of them are quite spacious on the top:


CN Tower decks structure (Toronto)
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Old November 12th, 2016, 06:19 AM   #1205
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so I'm guessing all these have 50F+ including a hotel and a height of over 1000m, with characteristics that stretch from a mast to a tower and a building? Cz quite honestly these look like boring basic towers, nothing like the grandeur and uniqueness of this project.
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Old November 12th, 2016, 01:07 PM   #1206
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you forgot Tokyo Sky tree which eventually will be moved to 3rd place of tallest structure in the world by The Tower in Dubai or 4th once kingdom tower is done
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Old November 12th, 2016, 01:29 PM   #1207
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I wouldn't call it "unique" and a "masterpiece", because there are similar towers built long time ago, one of them is actually quite similar in its structure to the tower named The Tower:
I also wouldn't call Burj Khalifa "unique" and a "masterpiece", because there is a similar tower built a long time ago, quite similar in its structure to Burj Khalifa:



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Cologne cathedral is also similar in structure to any generic German village church, Eiffel Tower is similar in structure to any 100m 19th century lattice tower, Empire State Building is similar in structure to any generic 25 storey 1920s art deco tower...
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Old November 12th, 2016, 03:02 PM   #1208
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These comparisons are off.. by alot lol
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Old November 12th, 2016, 03:19 PM   #1209
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They are on, everything need to be compared.
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Old November 12th, 2016, 06:34 PM   #1210
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I also wouldn't call Burj Khalifa "unique" and a "masterpiece", because there is a similar tower built a long time ago, quite similar in its structure to Burj Khalifa:

[Here be a Ryugyong Hotel picture]

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You've just killed all arguments with the checkmate example. There is no contemporary building that can compare to Ryugyong Hotel. This tower is a sacred paragon and an embodiment of perfect architecture. It is the very definition of it in every sense. Showing this example, you can call any other contemporary building a piece of sh!t, not even looking at what is proposed to compare.
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Old November 12th, 2016, 08:00 PM   #1211
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They are on, everything need to be compared.
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Old November 12th, 2016, 08:15 PM   #1212
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You've just killed all arguments with the checkmate example. There is no contemporary building that can compare to Ryugyong Hotel. This tower is a sacred paragon and an embodiment of perfect architecture. It is the very definition of it in every sense. Showing this example, you can call any other contemporary building a piece of sh!t, not even looking at what is proposed to compare.
Except that that building has been under construction for nearly 30 years, empty and abandoned inside with no opening of it in sight, and it stands in a country whose citizens are told what hairstyles they are allowed or not allowed to have. Anyways lets get back on topic. When is this tower expected to start rising?
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Old November 12th, 2016, 08:33 PM   #1213
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You've just killed all arguments with the checkmate example. There is no contemporary building that can compare to Ryugyong Hotel. This tower is a sacred paragon and an embodiment of perfect architecture. It is the very definition of it in every sense. Showing this example, you can call any other contemporary building a piece of sh!t, not even looking at what is proposed to compare.
Am I really the only one around here who thinks the Ryugyong Hotel looks like an ugly rocket drawing of a 7yo? I just can't see the beauty in it
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Old November 12th, 2016, 09:14 PM   #1214
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really nice
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Old November 12th, 2016, 09:18 PM   #1215
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Yes my dear fellows - goodybear and DubaiM: almost everything in that country is like that. But I'm lucky to possess a pretty darn good gift of being able to admit an excellent job, even if it was done by a communist-brainwashed preteen kid with a Down syndrome, who has just tried to offend me in every way he could. I would still be able to publicly say he's done a great job. DubaiM, your imagination is clearly biased by other's influence (Z.Hadid and/or other rebellious sculptors that have lost themselves in architecture).
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Old November 13th, 2016, 08:16 AM   #1216
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Well that's quite contradicting ain't it
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Old November 13th, 2016, 12:21 PM   #1217
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DubaiM, your imagination is clearly biased by other's influence (Z.Hadid and/or other rebellious sculptors that have lost themselves in architecture).
So what makes you think that just because I admire Zaha Hadid's work, I wouldn't tolerate any other architect? Maybe I'm not an architect (yet), as you apparently are, but I certainly know that architecture is not only about design and good looks.
I find the Ryugyong Hotel horrible because of many reasons:
- (the most superficial one) It's an ugly tower to look at
- It does not even closely respect its surroundings. The building rather stands out like a sore thumb with absolutely no context to the city.
- The tower has no use to the public and is not integrated in the urban context at ground level --> Functions as a show-off tower that is unreachable for a normal citizen
- The materials look tacky
- The structure is not sustainable at all
- The building has a terrible history with construction stops lasting decades
- Many structural issues were reported (No surprise if you take a look at the naked concrete shell before the tower was cladded)
- I still try to figure out how 105 floors fit in a 300m tall building
- It's still empty and won't find a use anytime soon

Anyway lets stay on topic
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Old November 13th, 2016, 02:05 PM   #1218
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...because I admire Zaha Hadid's work, I wouldn't tolerate any other architect...
You are being very precise here. And it applies to all admirers of any deconstructivist's œuvre. It's not possible to prove anything reasonable to a cult follower (like to an iphoner, or a bmwist). So I can't keep trying, although I could make serious remarks to your comments, esp. after a proposal to stay on topic
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Old November 13th, 2016, 05:23 PM   #1219
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You are being very precise here. And it applies to all admirers of any deconstructivist's œuvre. It's not possible to prove anything reasonable to a cult follower (like to an iphoner, or a bmwist). So I can't keep trying, although I could make serious remarks to your comments, esp. after a proposal to stay on topic
Let me say it differently: I think Zaha Hadid is a great inspiration in terms of design.
I still don't get why I wouldn't like any other style of architecture? Deconstructivist architecture itself is by the way not my favourite style. For me, it's more important that architecture is thought through in terms of sustainability, liveability and integration in the urban context. [email protected] is a great example for a sustainable and liveable skyscraper that houses thousands of people(!).

To make the statement above a little more on topic: That's what is missing a lot in Dubai. Architects in Dubai focus too much on height rather than how the building affects the surroundings. I hope Calatrava has plans for a great plaza at the base of The Tower, because the plaza on the current renders would just be a huge frying pan.
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Old November 13th, 2016, 07:22 PM   #1220
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I was trying to point out the level of such obsession. SkyVille @ Dawson looks to be a valid example of a sustainable ideas development, although not characteristic to her style.

I doubt the new development will depend on Calatrava very much. After the developer comes up with all the community features, Calatrava may be involved to introduce some decorations with strings or feathers. He can also come up with twisted or spiky things, but I really hope Emaar and sheikh Mohammed have some serious plans, to make it much more usable than previously presented on visuals and scale models.
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