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Old February 22nd, 2017, 12:02 PM   #1641
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I guess this piling is only for the tower itself.
When this is ready, tower foundation and tower core can start.

For the cables, 4 foundations are necessary (only pulling forces, so a complete different technique will be used).
The cables will become necessary when the core reaches a certain height, so they have some more time to make these 4 foundations.
The tower foundation is going to be big enough so that a 1 kilometer tower will be on it

In the picture it looks too small! Where is the diameter of the foundation? It is at least 30 meters long on the ground level if not longer! The digging area is what I'm talking about. The only possibility is that piling is being done without digging

Or maybe the tower is going to be union of poles in every corner. I marked the poles in red color in this render so that I make my point clear

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Old February 22nd, 2017, 12:08 PM   #1642
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the piling is happening only on the perimeter of the tower (70m) ... This pic from google earth is like 4 months and you see the footprints of some of the piles. Concerning piles for cable they might happen way later while this is under construction. Emaar most prob will appoint these to a specialised contractor.






In the pic it looks too small is because the tower is slender and very very tall with cable all around it gives it the impression of being "small"





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Old February 22nd, 2017, 10:33 PM   #1643
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I would think that for a tower so tall and thin, the foundation slab will be wider than the actual tower in order to spread the weight.
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Old February 23rd, 2017, 11:35 AM   #1644
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In order to sustain almost 1,000,000 tonnes of the Lagoon tower's weight on the tiny spot of 700m², the foundation will have to be quite unusual.
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Old February 23rd, 2017, 11:55 AM   #1645
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When did this tower become lagoon tower? you mean harbour tower! Anw its good time to fix the title a bit to its current official name
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Old February 24th, 2017, 08:36 PM   #1646
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the appearance of the home more often associated with the television tower, and not the house
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Old February 24th, 2017, 09:22 PM   #1647
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You better don't use English. It makes no sense at all.

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When did this tower become lagoon tower?
The moment it was announced by Argaam citing MEED citing Emaar, perhaps?
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Old February 24th, 2017, 10:35 PM   #1648
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The moment it was announced by Argaam citing MEED citing Emaar, perhaps?
Please don't tell me you mean the "google translate" name from the arabic article?

bcz the arabic article didn't say that! I know arabic ... keep it for the experts

Here is a free lesson, "برج الخور" means "the tower of the creek" it is not meant as name but as a description of the tower by its location since no official name is yet given by Emaar and it doesn't mean "lagoon tower" is anyway whatsoever ...

Hopefully they instead will relaunch the awesome lagoon towers once canceled
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Old February 26th, 2017, 02:15 PM   #1649
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Old February 26th, 2017, 08:57 PM   #1650
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My question is: Shouldn't they dig the whole circle like this?


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Old February 26th, 2017, 09:34 PM   #1651
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My question is: Shouldn't they dig the whole circle like this?
I think it depends, sometimes construction doesn't require any excavation at all, some other time excavation happens after piling is completed.

I don't think there is a right and a wrong method in this case. One thing is for sure thu, foundation has been carried on without digging, and I wouldn't expect any major depth even if they did dig afterwards.
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I estimate the concourse level plaza will cover around 180,000 sq.m of the underground facilities. So it won't be just a small round "hole" like on the picture.
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Old February 27th, 2017, 03:28 PM   #1653
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Wait, is this tower going to be 70 meters wide? I honestly find that hard to believe, given its use. You guys (particularly Gabriel) seem to be saying that is the case. If it is then this tower is massive...
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Old February 27th, 2017, 03:47 PM   #1654
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Wait, is this tower going to be 70 meters wide? I honestly find that hard to believe, given its use. You guys (particularly Gabriel) seem to be saying that is the case. If it is then this tower is massive...
Well that's what I wish for the truth is no one knows any detail about it so nothing is off the table but it might be smaller in diameter, 2 years ago first it was released (before the latest design change) they said diameter will be if I remember correctly 30m! Then again, no one really knows at this point, this year we should get the answer to this question
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Well that's what I wish for the truth is no one knows any detail about it so nothing is off the table but it might be smaller in diameter, 2 years ago first it was released (before the latest design change) they said diameter will be if I remember correctly 30m! Then again, no one really knows at this point, this year we should get the answer to this question
Let us hope. I do remember the 30 meter number being thrown around a while ago. That makes a lot more sense to me, as that would make the bulb 60-80m wide. Its an interesting foundation nonetheless.
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Old February 27th, 2017, 05:40 PM   #1656
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the piling is happening only on the perimeter of the tower (70m) ... This pic from google earth is like 4 months and you see the footprints of some of the piles. Concerning piles for cable they might happen way later while this is under construction. Emaar most prob will appoint these to a specialised contractor.






In the pic it looks too small is because the tower is slender and very very tall with cable all around it gives it the impression of being "small"





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Old February 27th, 2017, 08:05 PM   #1657
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The foundation slab is very likely wider than the tower itself in order to spread the load. Look at almost any bridge pylon.
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Old February 27th, 2017, 09:38 PM   #1658
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2 years ago first it was released [...]
Why is everybody saying that this project was released 2 years ago? As far as I know, we heard of the Tower at DHC the first time pretty much one year ago
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Old February 28th, 2017, 07:31 AM   #1659
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2 years ago first it was released (before the latest design change) they said diameter will be if I remember correctly 30m!
From what we can see on the last renders: proportionally, in order the width to be 30m, the height is estimated at above 1,220m. But if they choose to be a bit noble and respect KSA's efforts to have the tallest tower some time later in 2020ies by making "The Tower" as high as it was announced in the news (929m), then the trunk's width is going to be 23m.
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From what we can see on the last renders: proportionally, in order the width to be 30m, the height is estimated at above 1,220m. But if they choose to be a bit noble and respect KSA's efforts to have the tallest tower some time later in 2020ies by making "The Tower" as high as it was announced in the news (929m), then the trunk's width is going to be 23m.
When you said width, you mean diameter or radius?
because a 30m radius for 1220m , that's a 1:40 ratio, insanely thin
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