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Old February 7th, 2016, 03:37 AM   #1
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SOUTHERN CALIFORNIA | Commuter Rail

This thread is for Southern California commuter rail systems like MetroLinks & Coaster along with the semi-Intercity-commuter rail hybrid Pacific Surfliner..

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System Size : 388 mi (624 km)
Stations : 55
Number of lines : 7
Began operation : October 26, 1992
Top Speed : 90 mph (140 km/h)
Daily Ridership : 40,800 (Q3 2015)
Electrification : no
Fleet Size : 55 locomotives, 274 rail cars
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Source : https://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/F...em_diagram.svg

Pacific Surfliner


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Line Length : 350 miles (563 km)
Stops : 27
Number of lines : 1
Began operation : June 1, 2000
Average Journey time : 8 hours 15 minutes
Daily Ridership : 7,414 (Q3 2015)
Electrification : no
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Source : https://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/F..._Surfliner.svg

Coaster

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System Size : 41 mi (66 km)
Stations : 8
Number of lines : 1
Began operation : February 27, 1995
Top Speed : 90 mph (140 km/h)
Daily Ridership : 6,000 (Q3 2015)
Electrification : no
Fleet Size : 7 locomotives , 28 passenger cars
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Source : https://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/F...r_rail_map.png
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Metrolink Photos & Videos


Metrolink California
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Metrolink
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Metrolink
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San Bernardino Metrolink Panorama
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New Hyundai Rail Cars
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Old February 7th, 2016, 03:59 AM   #3
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Pacific Surfliner Photos & videos


Amtrak Pacific Surfliner at Del Mar, CA
by Mike Roqué, on Flickr


San Clemente view with AMTRAK Surfliner headed toward San DIego, CA USA
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Old February 7th, 2016, 04:07 AM   #4
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Coaster , Photos & Videos


Coaster 2105 ( EMD F40PH )
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Coaster
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COASTER
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Old February 7th, 2016, 06:07 PM   #5
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AVERAGE WEEKDAY RIDERSHIP
VENTURA COUNTY - 3,806
ANTELOPE VALLEY - 6,096
SAN BERNARDINO - 11,036
RIVERSIDE - 4,630
ORANGE COUNTY - 9,002
INLAND EMPIRE ORANGE COUNTY - 4,555
91 LINE - 2,596
BURBANK TURNS - 404

http://www.metrolinktrains.com/pdfs/...eport_FY16.pdf
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What are the Burbank turns?
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What are the Burbank turns?
I believe those are trains on the Ventura County line that operate between Los Angeles Union Station and Burbank Bob Hope Airport.
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Riverside Station needs a better connection to downtown Riverside. It's a stop for 3 different lines but is separated by a freeway from the central business district and community college.
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No mention of Metrolink Perris extension that may or may not open this month?
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No mention of Metrolink Perris extension that may or may not open this month?
I thought that was already opened a few months ago?
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That was just a photo op for the local kleptocrats. It wasn't meant to be taken seriously.

No passenger trains were put into revenue service.
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Needed to add about small Metrolink extension in San Bernardino:
http://www.sanbag.ca.gov/projects/re...dout22114b.pdf

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DOWNTOWN SAN BERNARDINO PASSENGER RAIL PROJECT:

Extends Metrolink service one-mile from the Santa Fe Depot to the multi-modal San Bernardino Transit Center
Old December video on project's progress:

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The system is good but needs more frequency and growth.
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The vast majority of the network is single-tracked, even in the busy stretch between San Diego and Orange County.
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How hard would it be to double track it?
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How hard would it be to double track it?
Probably not hard, but would be a significant capital investment. Is there any evidence that ridership levels warrant double tracking to accommodate additional trains on this corridor?
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Probably not hard, but would be a significant capital investment. Is there any evidence that ridership levels warrant double tracking to accommodate additional trains on this corridor?
There are already plans to double track the entire LAUS to SAN corridor; mainly due to the ridership demands from the Amtrak SAN to LA service which is the second busiest in the US. Metrolink and Coaster would obviously benefit as well since they use the same tracks. Here is the link regarding the portion in San Diego County:

http://www.keepsandiegomoving.com/Lo...san-intro.aspx

There are some sections that will be more costly to upgrade and replace as they will require tunnels, ie in Del Mar/San Clemente and around University City. There is also significant residential build up close to the tracks in Orange County which would make it difficult/impossible to expand without significant cost.
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I'm surprised the ridership is so low when you consider the huge commuting distances people have.
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These photos reveal quite well the difficulties associated with double-tracking, especially in a coastal environment.

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For whatever reason, the line takes a slow meandering circuituous route around, rather than through, University City in San Diego. A line through (or more likely, under) this area, along with a stop at UC San Diego, would boost ridership and speed up journeys between Oceanside and Santa Fe Depot. But I don't even see how this is achievable without tunneling or possibly building tracks in the median of the 5 Freeway.

In any case, this would be quite expensive and is not a priority since (a) the existing Sorrento Valley station is relatively close to UCSD and a connection to the university is available on shuttle # 979; and (b) San Diego Trolley is being extended to University City, such that Blue Line will run from University City to San Ysidro through downtown.
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I'm surprised the ridership is so low when you consider the huge commuting distances people have.
People in SO Cal are just used to driving. Additionally the rail system really only serves people who are travelling from a specific point to a specific point; until a more integrated mass transit system is completed, it's relatively difficult to justify taking the train when you need to travel from Alhambra to Grantville
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