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Old May 24th, 2011, 07:55 PM   #141
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Well, there's nothing to revive, anyway.
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Old May 25th, 2011, 01:32 AM   #142
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But this thread is not infested with the 2 morons...
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Old May 25th, 2011, 08:08 AM   #143
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That's right!

Well, we can post the updates here peacefully.
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Old May 25th, 2011, 08:54 AM   #144
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That's what makes it even better.
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Old May 25th, 2011, 04:40 PM   #145
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Any idea on how they'll be making LRT 7?
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Old May 25th, 2011, 04:58 PM   #146
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Don't take this as a 100% reliable update as I have no written sources to cite, but, my friend who works in in SMC under infrastructure told me that the project should be up for bidding to contractors later this year. She said they expect it to be done in 3 1/2 years, or by 2014. She also says that there are still no design for the stations, but, stated that they have an issue with the QC Hall -- whether the station in QC Memorial/City Hall should be underground or elevated. No info as well on the rolling stock, except that the trains will have (initially, I hope) a 3-car configuration.

Again, this is just from the mouth of a friend who works there. Let us wait for the official press releases to know if the information I got are true or not.
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Old May 25th, 2011, 06:24 PM   #147
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I thought Quezon Memorial station was underground?

Also, a three-car configuration is okay, provided this is full metro and not light rail (the great mistake that is MRT-3). It should also be expandable: medium-capacity systems should be fine at first, but eventually as ridership increases, the system should expand.
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Old May 26th, 2011, 09:26 AM   #148
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I wonder if they ever have plans on adding a monorail or light rail over ortigas avenue.
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Old May 26th, 2011, 12:45 PM   #149
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Grr.. 3-car config? I hope it won't turn out like the EDSA tram line AKA MRT Line 3.
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Old May 26th, 2011, 02:49 PM   #150
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I was thinking more like this:

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Old May 26th, 2011, 07:47 PM   #151
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Also, a three-car configuration is okay, provided this is full metro and not light rail (the great mistake that is MRT-3). It should also be expandable: medium-capacity systems should be fine at first, but eventually as ridership increases, the system should expand.
I hope that it also is not light rail. But judging from the name of the original propenent, Universal LRT Corp., I'm being to hopeful. Then again, I hope we're in for a wonderful surprise.

Also, from an MRT-7 presentation dated 2006, they plan to have an initial capacity of 300,000 people, then, as ridership increases, the capacity should, too, up to 850,000. But, that was back in 2006. I'm just wondering, how many cars would make up a train for it to be able to hold 850,000 people.
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Old May 27th, 2011, 07:09 AM   #152
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A 6-car config should be okay. MM has learned its lessons on Line 3.
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Old May 27th, 2011, 08:26 AM   #153
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Why isn't our MRT integrated?
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Old May 27th, 2011, 08:46 AM   #154
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A 6-car config should be okay. MM has learned its lessons on Line 3.
I agree with 6 car configuration!!
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Old May 27th, 2011, 08:51 AM   #155
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http://www.manilatimes.net/business/...tee-for-mrt-7/
DOTC endorses govt guarantee for MRT 7
May 16, 2011
BY DARWIN G. AMOJELAR SENIOR REPORTER

THE Department of Transportation and Communications (DOTC) is pushing for a government guarantee for the proponent of the seventh line of Metro Manila’s light railway.

In its presentation, San Miguel Corp. (SMC) said the DOTC endorsed to the Department of Finance the request for a performance undertaking to cover the Metro Rail Transit Line 7 (MRT 7).

SMC said it expects financial closure for the project in the fourth quarter.

Ruben Reinoso, DOTC undersecretary for planning and projects, earlier said that the performance undertaking is critical so the MRT 7 proponent can secure financial closure for the construction of the $1.235-billion project.
Proponent Universal LRT Corp. (ULC) earlier said that about $320 million of the project’s total cost would come in the form of equity, while $900 million to $1 billion will come from borrowings.
ULC is eyeing a loan from the Japan International Cooperation Agency to partly finance the MRT 7 project.

San Miguel Holdings Corp. (SMHC) had acquired a 51-percent stake in the MRT 7 project from the group of Salvador Zamora 2nd, the owner of ULC.

In 2008, the DOTC and ULC signed a contract to build the railway
system and develop the project’s real estate and commercial component worth $2.2 billion. The project has since been delayed because of lack of funds. ULC had planned to begin construction last year and complete the project in 2012.

In October last year, SMHC executed a share sale and purchase deal with ULC to acquire 51 percent of the consortium.

ULC holds the exclusive right, obligation and privilege to finance and construct the MRT 7.
The MRT 7 will run from San Jose del Monte, Bulacan to SM City in North Avenue, linking up to Light Rail Transit Line 1 and MRT 3.

MRT 7 will begin at Tala, Caloocan City, passing through La Mesa Dam reservoir, Fairview, Batasan, Diliman, Philcoa, and ending at EDSA-North Avenue.

It will serve an estimated two million commuters in the northern parts of Quezon City and Caloocan City.

Apart from the elevated transport system, ULC will also build at no cost a 17-kilometer, six-lane asphalt access road in Marilao, Bulacan that will lead to its depot in Tala.

Besides the railway project, ULC plans to develop 900,000 square meters of commercial space throughout the concession period.
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Old May 27th, 2011, 11:29 AM   #156
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A 6-car config should be okay. MM has learned its lessons on Line 3.
History should tell us what lessons need to be learned, but, apparently in PH, history never fails to repeat itself. I hope our leaders and private sector really did learn from Line3, but judging by the location of the Grand Central Station, It's hard for me to assume that we did.

Btw, other countries have 8-car configs now, if I'm not mistaken. I think it would be nice if the Line 7 stations would have a provision for this. I can't wait for the station designs to come out.
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Old May 27th, 2011, 11:33 AM   #157
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[url]THE Department of Transportation and Communications (DOTC) is pushing for a government guarantee for the proponent of the seventh line of Metro Manila’s light railway.

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Besides the railway project, ULC plans to develop 900,000 square meters of commercial space throughout the concession period.
So, first paragraph says it really is light rail? I wonder how the construction of this line would affect Line 3. Would it be just and express train from North Ave. to Makati?
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Why isn't our MRT integrated?
Because the Philippines is poor.

Poor in leaders who have vision -- the old Metro Manila passenger rail plans look very good on paper, but, that's all there is to it, paper; some politicos fail to listen to experts in their respective fields.

Poor in quality education -- in order to keep yourself in power, keep your people poor and stupid. For this reason, the same bozos get elected time and again.

And the list would go on. A simple problem, but, I believe, has very fundamental roots.
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Old May 27th, 2011, 01:42 PM   #159
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It's sad 'cause the people are suffering (or rather inconvenienced) 'cause of it.
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Old May 27th, 2011, 03:03 PM   #160
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Add those inexperienced officials that pop out like a popcorn.
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