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Old August 8th, 2005, 10:30 PM   #1
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Abandoned-dismantled-unused railway lines

Hi guys ,

As a map collector I have several maps from decades ago which show clearly where railway lines used to be.
Sometimes I am surprised to find an old track hidden in the landscape that has became a foot path or a cycle track.

Who can provide me with pictures and links on these subjects ?

Very appreciated , thank you very much
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Old August 9th, 2005, 12:07 PM   #2
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Pictures / Info on a selection of disused UK stations

A very long list of disused sections of line in the UK

I'm working on an atlas of London's railways, past and present, which is getting published next year... It has all of London's abandoned railways and stations on it. I regard myself as being quite the expert, if there's any specific information you want, then just ask!
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Old August 9th, 2005, 12:09 PM   #3
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Re: the first link

"Click here for underground sites", then "Click for Disused Stations"

I can't link direct to the right page for some reason
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Old August 9th, 2005, 12:10 PM   #4
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Abandoned Underground railways / station

(Some overground bits too)
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Old August 9th, 2005, 12:17 PM   #5
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Wow.. so many stations...
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Old August 9th, 2005, 12:17 PM   #6
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I'm working on an atlas of London's railways, past and present, which is getting published next year... It has all of London's abandoned railways and stations on it. I regard myself as being quite the expert, if there's any specific information you want, then just ask!

as a book seller, I can tell you there is quite a good demand for these sort of publications.

Is it going to be a guide book or a book?
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Old August 10th, 2005, 11:05 AM   #7
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as a book seller, I can tell you there is quite a good demand for these sort of publications.

Is it going to be a guide book or a book?
Its an atlas, like an A to Z map of railways... Geographically (and historically) correct. It also has an extensive index / gazetteer with some commentary, but its more "drawn" than "written".
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Old August 10th, 2005, 11:24 AM   #8
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Its an atlas, like an A to Z map of railways... Geographically (and historically) correct. It also has an extensive index / gazetteer with some commentary, but its more "drawn" than "written".
sounds good, I bet there is a demand for it.

People like specialist railwayana items that are not that easy to find, especially about disused railway lines.

Good luck with that.
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Old August 11th, 2005, 11:04 PM   #9
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I found out that there use to be a direct railway line from Remagen towards the former German communities in eastern Belgium.
Who has some info concerning the part going east of Remagen ?
The former tunnel entrance east of Remagen , on the right Rhine bank is no longer accesable to the public cause a wall has been built inside the tunnelopening...
Where was this tunnel leading too ?
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Old August 12th, 2005, 11:39 PM   #10
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Beltline

This is a very not topic right now in Atlanta, Georgia.

A concept that originated as a graduate student thesis about five years ago is about to change the urban core of the city in a very significant way.

Called the Beltline, it is a 22 mile loop of railway right of way that is in various uses. Most of it is not in use, however some is still used daily.

If built, the new greenspace, trails, development, and transit will remake our city. In terms of impact on our city this is bigger than the olympics and is as important to our future as all of our freeways put togather.

www.beltline.org
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Old August 13th, 2005, 12:53 AM   #11
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I belive that this used to be part of Vancouver's old interurban railway. There are and have been many plans for this corridor; it was an option for Vancouvers new RAV line but now that it is being built down Cambie street there are now plans for the old rail lines to become a cycling route or a light rail/streetcar line.



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Old October 14th, 2005, 06:19 AM   #12
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Singapore has a rather famous disused line.

The Jurong Railway, built in the 1960s, and used to deliver goods to and from the factories of Jurong to Malaysia.

In the 1980s, it was shut down.
Parts of the railway had since been dismanted.

But most of it is still around, very badly overgrown.
Old rail bridges, tunnels, crossing arms, tracks, and even railway signs are still there.


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Old October 14th, 2005, 06:48 AM   #13
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many empty tracks where this used to run:



Here's an example near my area:

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Old October 14th, 2005, 12:39 PM   #14
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An interesting one here:

The Post Office Tube, London
Sadly, this closed down recently. Started in 1914, it was an underground railway with driverless trains under the streets of London to connect the main post offices. It was fully underground and carried the mail between the sorting offices and around 23miles of tunnels with 7miles of actual route.






The line was closed down in late 2003, but it's all still there, and there are discussions on what to turn it into or use it for. Hopefully they find some solution that can keep it working or at least remain intact, the line is being maintained in such a way that it could be reactivated overnight, whether to deliver post or for some more unusual reason.

Just before closing, the line was carrying 30,000 mailbags per day, with each of the 50 trains taking 26 minutes to cover the seven miles, stopping for a minute at each station5. Each train would be loaded with 84 bags of letters and parcels, and would run at speeds of up to 40mph6 except for in the stations, where the reduced voltage applied to the rails decreased the top speed to 7mph.

Some Stats:
* Designed solely for movement of letters and parcels.
* Operated 19 hours a day, 286 days a year.
* 23 Miles (37 Kilometers) of 2 foot gauge track.
* 70 feet (21 meters) below the streets of London.
* Fully automated, computer controlled trains.
* Carried the Capitals mails for over 75 years.
* Once served 9 stations, including 2 mainline stations.
* Once carried around 4 million letters every day.
* Paddington to Whitechapel, with all stops, in 26 minutes.



Lots of information to be found here: http://www.mailrail.co.uk/
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Old October 14th, 2005, 05:42 PM   #15
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An interesting one here:

The Post Office Tube, London

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Lots of information to be found here: http://www.mailrail.co.uk/
This is a national disgrace. It should never have closed.

The extra road traffic (instead of travelling by train) creates congestion and air pollution.

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Old October 14th, 2005, 05:47 PM   #16
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Pictures / Info on a selection of disused UK stations

A very long list of disused sections of line in the UK

I'm working on an atlas of London's railways, past and present, which is getting published next year... It has all of London's abandoned railways and stations on it. I regard myself as being quite the expert, if there's any specific information you want, then just ask!
OK then Tubeman, I'll ask you a question.

Which was opened as part of the London Underground with the advertising slogan "more for you"

- but the wags soon changed to "no more for you"?

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Old October 14th, 2005, 08:00 PM   #17
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OK then Tubeman, I'll ask you a question.

Which was opened as part of the London Underground with the advertising slogan "more for you"

- but the wags soon changed to "no more for you"?

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Pass! What is / was it? A station, line or extension?
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Pass! What is / was it? A station, line or extension?

Hi Tubeman.

Mill Hill East station - the line was closed in 1939 for track doubling and electrification between Finchley Central and where the route would join the LER Edgware branch (just south of Edgware LER station) but because of the war all works were stopped.

Then in 1941 it was decided to electrify and re-open the single track as far as Mill Hill East as it would help servicemen get to the military barracks (RAF airdrome?) there.

However. once it became clear the rest of the route via Mill Hill (The Hale) and to Edgware was to remain closed (indeed has now been "disinvested in" - ie: lifted & partially built over) so the promotional slogan "more for you" became "no more for you".


Of course right now the slogan should be "nothing for you", because, as we know, the Northern Line is completely closed for reasons which I suspect are not being fully disclosed.

and on that topic, without wishing to add further fuel to the fire I do wonder just how different the 1995 Northern Line trains are from the 1996 Jubilee Line trains.

Cosmetics apart I thought that the two fleets were basically "very similar". Which gives rise to the question of why the Jubilee Line is not also suffering from similar safety related issues.

Since I am not in possesion of all the facts it would be very remiss of me to point accusational fingures but the thoughts which have crossed my mind include the possibility of "the wrong type of" maintenance and human politics regarding the ownership of the Northern Line maintenance falilities. The complete withdrawal of the Northern Line fleet suggests that the changing of the tripcock reset cables (as highlighted in the national media earlier this week) may - in fact - not have been the solution which it was proclaimed to be.


Simon

ps my heartfelt sympathies go to the passengers whose journeys have been made absoloute hell. I experienced similar during the prolonged closure of the Central Line, a few years ago.




may not even have been capable of being the solution which it was proclaimed to be.
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Old October 15th, 2005, 01:57 AM   #19
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I can shed some light on the Northern Line matter...

The 1995 Stock were built essentially for ATO so the whole Tripcock thing was a bit of an afterthought. The Tripcock reset cord ran through a pipe that ended up on the front end of the cab by the "M" Door, so to reset it the Driver needed to open the "M" Door and lean precariously out the front of the train whilst tugging vigourously. This was deemed unsafe, so the cord was re-routed into the cab such that it could be reset by opening a cabinet and tugging on the same cord. The problem is, the revised route was longer and more torturous so the cord became much tighter after modification. What was happening was that tripcocks were hitting trainstops fine, but the tension of the reset cord was making the tripcocks spring straight back instead of latching back into a "tripped" position, so essentially the ATP was overridden by tight string!

Slack is being restored as I type!...

You couldn't make it up!
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Old October 15th, 2005, 02:36 AM   #20
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Sylt had an own small railway network from 1888 until 1970.
This site is fully dedicated to "Inselbahnen" (railways on islands) in Germany. Unluckily only in german language, so here some vocabulary for navigation:
Aktuelles = news
Strecken = tracks/ network
Fahrzeuge = vehicles
Fotogalerie = photo gallery

Nowadays only the normal gauge tracks from Westerland to the mainland are used (by regional and long distance trains).
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